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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:02 pm
by PenguinPower
How will it be clear tomorrow that I'm scum if TLK ends up town?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:03 pm
by PenguinPower
Love pagetops.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:04 pm
by mcqueen
In post 5869, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5861, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5851, mcqueen wrote:How is SS not a huge threat if it’s 4v15? Or 5v14 if a potential Traitor is included (could still be 4v15, I guess)? It’s literally a 1-for-1 trade off if scum are forced to kill the SS.
y do the numbers even matter? SS is a non-action. I think scum would be far more threatened by active night actions, yes? I mean, ok eventually he'll be a threat b/c as the game goes scum being forced to hammer SS goes up but that's down the line.
maybe, I don't think supersaint will ever be enough of a threat to be killed for his role. scum hammering supersaint is still strictly better for scum than that same scum getting lynched.
then stop voting him and scum won’t have the opportunity to “hammer”

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:04 pm
by mcqueen
In post 5877, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5869, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5861, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5851, mcqueen wrote:How is SS not a huge threat if it’s 4v15? Or 5v14 if a potential Traitor is included (could still be 4v15, I guess)? It’s literally a 1-for-1 trade off if scum are forced to kill the SS.
y do the numbers even matter? SS is a non-action. I think scum would be far more threatened by active night actions, yes? I mean, ok eventually he'll be a threat b/c as the game goes scum being forced to hammer SS goes up but that's down the line.
maybe, I don't think supersaint will ever be enough of a threat to be killed for his role. scum hammering supersaint is still strictly better for scum than that same scum getting lynched.
then stop voting him and scum won’t have the opportunity to “hammer”
This is a PSA btw, I wasn’t necessarily meaning you were voting him

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:05 pm
by DrewVa
@Creature, Your read of dave and TLK weakened?

guessing they're both still on the null side of the pool though? -d

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:05 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 5878, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5877, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5869, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5861, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5851, mcqueen wrote:How is SS not a huge threat if it’s 4v15? Or 5v14 if a potential Traitor is included (could still be 4v15, I guess)? It’s literally a 1-for-1 trade off if scum are forced to kill the SS.
y do the numbers even matter? SS is a non-action. I think scum would be far more threatened by active night actions, yes? I mean, ok eventually he'll be a threat b/c as the game goes scum being forced to hammer SS goes up but that's down the line.
maybe, I don't think supersaint will ever be enough of a threat to be killed for his role. scum hammering supersaint is still strictly better for scum than that same scum getting lynched.
then stop voting him and scum won’t have the opportunity to “hammer”
This is a PSA btw, I wasn’t necessarily meaning you were voting him
:lol:

:shifty:

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:06 pm
by mcqueen
In post 5875, PenguinPower wrote:How will it be clear tomorrow that I'm scum if TLK ends up town?
clear is the wrong word. but you participating in framing him becomes a huge possibility, unless you can undoubtedly prove that their is either a redirector of some sort or a second sticky fruit going around.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:07 pm
by mcqueen
In post 5880, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 5878, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5877, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5869, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5861, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5851, mcqueen wrote:How is SS not a huge threat if it’s 4v15? Or 5v14 if a potential Traitor is included (could still be 4v15, I guess)? It’s literally a 1-for-1 trade off if scum are forced to kill the SS.
y do the numbers even matter? SS is a non-action. I think scum would be far more threatened by active night actions, yes? I mean, ok eventually he'll be a threat b/c as the game goes scum being forced to hammer SS goes up but that's down the line.
maybe, I don't think supersaint will ever be enough of a threat to be killed for his role. scum hammering supersaint is still strictly better for scum than that same scum getting lynched.
then stop voting him and scum won’t have the opportunity to “hammer”
This is a PSA btw, I wasn’t necessarily meaning you were voting him
:lol:

:shifty:
yes?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:07 pm
by DrewVa
Null side

Davesaz
The Last Knight
RCEnigma
BrightEyedFish
Thanos
UnaBombah
Kokichi Oma
Something_Smart

Scum side

who should be moved up or down?

-d

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:08 pm
by Creature
In post 5879, DrewVa wrote:@Creature, Your read of dave and TLK weakened?
Oh, didn't notice TLK was unstriked

but my read on Dave indeed weakened

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:09 pm
by PenguinPower
@mcqueen
So...your answer to my:
In post 5795, mcqueen wrote:I think you know your time is limited
Didn't really make sense, given that it was predicated on me "framing TLK."

You said I knew my time was limited, and so I "framed TLK."

Could you explain why I knew my time was limited prior to "framing TLK?"

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:10 pm
by mcqueen
In post 5883, DrewVa wrote:Null side

Davesaz
The Last Knight
RCEnigma
BrightEyedFish
Thanos
UnaBombah
Kokichi Oma
Something_Smart

Scum side

who should be moved up or down?

-d
why is RCE null?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:14 pm
by mcqueen
In post 5885, PenguinPower wrote:
@mcqueen
So...your answer to my:
In post 5795, mcqueen wrote:I think you know your time is limited
Didn't really make sense, given that it was predicated on me "framing TLK."

You said I knew my time was limited, and so I "framed TLK."

Could you explain why I knew my time was limited prior to "framing TLK?"
i see why you think that, but your order is reversed. you asked TLK about the fruit and when I confronted you ss to what you were on about, you said you’d answer tomorrow. By that point, at least in my mind, you already gave a fruit to TLK, therefore with me pushing you know your time is limited if TLK were to flip town.

of course, without his flip, my case on you is quite irrelevant. and since I’ve moved away from his wagon, I’ve left this theory alone. Methinks you’ll slip in the future, anyway

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:15 pm
by PenguinPower
Ah, that's a fair answer.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:16 pm
by PenguinPower
Course, I didn't just say "tomorrow" to you. I've said that to everyone who has asked...just FYI.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:16 pm
by DrewVa
In post 5886, mcqueen wrote:why is RCE null?
keep forgetting why I was townreading him tbh

I think there's probably town somewhere in day 1 but I would have to go back and find it -d

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:16 pm
by mcqueen
you asked TLK about the fruit should be *gift

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:17 pm
by PenguinPower
Also, your trade-off theory is bad, and definitely not something I would do.

But we can discuss tomorrow.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:17 pm
by DrewVa
In post 5884, Creature wrote:but my read on Dave indeed weakened

how low should he go? above or below BEF?

-d

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:18 pm
by mcqueen
In post 5889, PenguinPower wrote:Course, I didn't just say "tomorrow" to you. I've said that to everyone who has asked...just FYI.
ok, but surely that buys you time to talk with your scummates tonight (if you don’t already have daytalk, that is) to weae your way out of the situation, no?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:19 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 5894, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5889, PenguinPower wrote:Course, I didn't just say "tomorrow" to you. I've said that to everyone who has asked...just FYI.
ok, but surely that buys you time to talk with your scummates tonight (if you don’t already have daytalk, that is) to weae your way out of the situation, no?
Image

'cus that's the only reason.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:19 pm
by mcqueen
In post 5890, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5886, mcqueen wrote:why is RCE null?
keep forgetting why I was townreading him tbh

I think there's probably town somewhere in day 1 but I would have to go back and find it -d
can you do that please? i’m townreading rce and would prefer he not be in a potential lynchpool, despite his unlikelihood of actually getting hung.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:21 pm
by mcqueen
In post 5895, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 5894, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5889, PenguinPower wrote:Course, I didn't just say "tomorrow" to you. I've said that to everyone who has asked...just FYI.
ok, but surely that buys you time to talk with your scummates tonight (if you don’t already have daytalk, that is) to weae your way out of the situation, no?
Image

'cus that's the only reason.
i mean, it’s a possible one, and that’s all i need for a scumread. again, if i were actively pushing you your response would hold much more water, but since i’m not, well, it doesn’t.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:23 pm
by PenguinPower
Aren't you voting me right now?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:27 pm
by Creature
In post 5893, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5884, Creature wrote:but my read on Dave indeed weakened

how low should he go? above or below BEF?

-d
Still above