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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:33 am
by DrewVa
In post 5971, Creature wrote:
In post 5951, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5948, DrewVa wrote:There simply are certain slots that I excel at reading, Nero, Creature are amongst them and people would be wise to listen to me on that.
In. b4 Creature disputes this with YGM. It took me awhile to discern all of the obvious towntells but I did get there eventually.
Who is YGM?
You’ve Got Mail

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:34 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1172, Something_Smart wrote:I couldn't point to specific posts (other than you complaining about long quotes for short responses which I know is NAI but I still appreciate), but in my catchups your posts have felt pretty genuine.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:39 am
by profii
I can get behind a S_S lynch

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:43 am
by DrewVa
Please do bold votes in thread and it would be sweet if someone could update the vote count. -d

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:46 am
by DrewVa
In post 5968, Creature wrote:
In post 5936, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 5774, RCEnigma wrote:Cool, can we chop creature in half now?
Agreed.
If that would mean Elsa not getting lynched, sure.
Why would you fall on your sword for Elsa? I don’t get it.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:00 am
by The Last Knight
In post 5917, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 5781, The Last Knight wrote:Or we could wait a day so that I can give Profii his fruit back. In that case, we could lynch Elsa or BEF today.
I might just be too out of the loop to understand this, but how does it conf.town you, if you "give profii his fruit back"?
I fail to see how scum!TLK couldn't give a fruit to town!profii.
Or Scum!TLK to scum!profii.
Hell, I don't even think profii is scummy, but it could even be town!TLK giving it to scum!profii.
What do we confirm/decide with you giving a fruit to profii tonight? :]

If it doesn't get redirected again, then it would prove that i got the fruit which was part of the reason that PP and some others scum read me today.

Mainly though, it allows profii to progress with is loyal/fruit plan and I find that endeavor to be quite pro-town. Whether I am scum or town, giving the fruit back to profii helps town. And I read Profii town so I don't mind.

Or I could be killed. But I think the information about the fruit is relevant to some for reads, so if I die before I do something with it then it will leave a lot of questions unanswered.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:41 am
by mcqueen
In post 5975, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5971, Creature wrote:
In post 5951, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5948, DrewVa wrote:There simply are certain slots that I excel at reading, Nero, Creature are amongst them and people would be wise to listen to me on that.
In. b4 Creature disputes this with YGM. It took me awhile to discern all of the obvious towntells but I did get there eventually.
Who is YGM?
You’ve Got Mail
i always hoped it stood for YuGio Mafia :lol:

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:52 am
by The Last Knight
In post 5929, profii wrote:
In post 5917, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 5781, The Last Knight wrote:Or we could wait a day so that I can give Profii his fruit back. In that case, we could lynch Elsa or BEF today.
I might just be too out of the loop to understand this, but how does it conf.town you, if you "give profii his fruit back"?
I fail to see how scum!TLK couldn't give a fruit to town!profii.
Or Scum!TLK to scum!profii.
Hell, I don't even think profii is scummy, but it could even be town!TLK giving it to scum!profii.
What do we confirm/decide with you giving a fruit to profii tonight? :]
The fruit return is one element of the situation that bugs me -

we know scum can interfere with the fruit so it has essentially lost its value - why offer to give it to me, even if I try to give it to secret loyal dude, scum can stop us - so it's pretty much always going to be a fruitless endeavour from now on ha ha

Haha damn. But you're probably right.

I don't know how PRs work but it feels like a lot of them have x-shots. But how often can redirection be used in typical games? It may not apply here, but it would give me some context.

I have another plan... But it's probably too convoluted to work.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:09 am
by RCEnigma
In post 5964, Cheeky Dancer wrote:If you guys are seeing a town creature then you must be considering a scum Unah? I could even see that as SvS tbh.

~ C
No

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:16 am
by RCEnigma
In post 5974, Xtoxm wrote:yeah S_S is scum
this is one of the most egregious cases of lack of read evolution ive ever seen
and hes seen my scumgame in worst idea, he really has no right calling me scum here
if we're lynching outside of TLK i can purge this
On top of that he comes off with the typical unengaged scumread list with multiple lynchable slots whom have already been pushed and then the one townread slot that they know won't gain traction but might get them towncred for pursuing.

I kind of want to give Creature a townread if S_S flips scum. I think it was Nancy said Creature never buses but NK's normal saw a fair bit of Day 1 scum theater and I wouldn't totally clear him off of it. It would look better though.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:19 am
by The Last Knight
Thanos is absent right now but I did read the Thanos and DrewVa interaction late D1 to be SvT, in no particular order. DrewVa is more of a town read for me now, especially with Thanos lurking today. I'd love to get their input on this but it isn't the worst counterwagon I've heard today.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:21 am
by DrewVa
In post 5984, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5974, Xtoxm wrote:yeah S_S is scum
this is one of the most egregious cases of lack of read evolution ive ever seen
and hes seen my scumgame in worst idea, he really has no right calling me scum here
if we're lynching outside of TLK i can purge this
On top of that he comes off with the typical unengaged scumread list with multiple lynchable slots whom have already been pushed and then the one townread slot that they know won't gain traction but might get them towncred for pursuing.

I kind of want to give Creature a townread if S_S flips scum. I think it was Nancy said Creature never buses but NK's normal saw a fair bit of Day 1 scum theater and I wouldn't totally clear him off of it. It would look better though.
Both DVa and myself are hard townreading him here. But yeah, true, Creature doesn’t bus. Idk, what’s behind his Elsa appeal, just that it never comes from scum!Creature.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:24 am
by The Last Knight
And SS is scum until they prove otherwise at this point for me. They're coasting too comfortably for me to be okay with it. I do appreciate the dedication to the game when it comes to replacing out, but that just makes me feel like they want to skate by without having to contribute.

I'm mainly just asking for more from them. Then I'll reaS_Sess (reassess).

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:24 am
by DrewVa
In post 5985, The Last Knight wrote:Thanos is absent right now but I did read the Thanos and DrewVa interaction late D1 to be SvT, in no particular order. DrewVa is more of a town read for me now, especially with Thanos lurking today. I'd love to get their input on this but it isn't the worst counterwagon I've heard today.
Whose? Us or Thanos? Our vote is currently on Elsa but DVa has given me permission to switch to SS. I prefer either Elsa or SS but I want to trust Creature on Elsa, so I guess I’ll switch to SS.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:26 am
by DrewVa
In post 5987, The Last Knight wrote:And SS is scum until they prove otherwise at this point for me. They're coasting too comfortably for me to be okay with it. I do appreciate the dedication to the game when it comes to replacing out, but that just makes me feel like they want to skate by without having to contribute.

I'm mainly just asking for more from them. Then I'll reaS_Sess (reassess).
Okay, we’re on SS now. They’ve been my #1 scumread for awhile now, anyway.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:27 am
by RCEnigma
I mean it should be on TLK but I digress.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:32 am
by DrewVa
In post 5990, RCEnigma wrote:I mean it should be on TLK but I digress.
Neither Elsa or SS is ever going to hammer him and I’m not confident he’s scum.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:35 am
by Something_Smart
If TLK is going to be the lynch I'm fine with hammering him if that's what people want.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:39 am
by RCEnigma
Well there you go.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:26 pm
by mcqueen
Lol?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:36 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 5883, DrewVa wrote:Null side

Davesaz
The Last Knight
RCEnigma
BrightEyedFish
Thanos
UnaBombah
Kokichi Oma
Something_Smart

Scum side

who should be moved up or down?

-d
I like Thanos as town and Kolchi as scum. TLK can be town too.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:01 pm
by profii
In post 5992, Something_Smart wrote:If TLK is going to be the lynch I'm fine with hammering him if that's what people want.
Were all happy to hammer TLK

Ain’t that a thing

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:07 pm
by Something_Smart
I think he's really supersaint. But if he's gonna get hung and people are okay with me biting that bullet I will.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:10 pm
by profii
Do you think he is going to get hung right now?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:25 pm
by The Last Knight
In post 5988, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5985, The Last Knight wrote:Thanos is absent right now but I did read the Thanos and DrewVa interaction late D1 to be SvT, in no particular order. DrewVa is more of a town read for me now, especially with Thanos lurking today. I'd love to get their input on this but it isn't the worst counterwagon I've heard today.
Whose? Us or Thanos? Our vote is currently on Elsa but DVa has given me permission to switch to SS. I prefer either Elsa or SS but I want to trust Creature on Elsa, so I guess I’ll switch to SS.
I want the Thanos hydra to weigh in. Anywhere.