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Redirector is not prohibited tho so wtf are you talking about jingle

why are you acting like scum redirector is impossible

-d

There is no re-director. or rather, profii is the only viable redirector.

Those that received loyal or loud modifiers would know if the claim is truthful. I don't think anyone besides Nero has claimed loud besides Nero and I sent that to him.

Profii wouldn't need to be redirector to send the fruit he already had to tlk.

In post 8378, RCEnigma wrote:Profii wouldn't need to be redirector to send the fruit he already had to tlk.

But why send it to tlk at all as scum?

Redirector would have to be a variant however and since two variants are already claimed there would have to be at least one scum in drewva/Profii/Bef for a redirector to exist.

I'm not sure, there was a bit of wifom with his claim, maybe to push his Lynch and block investigatives? It doesn't sound super viable though.

Profii- inventor
Drewva- activator
BEF- SFVendor

There are only 3 non whitelisted roles possible.

In order for a redirector to be in the setup, one of those has to not be. DrewVa's role is funtionally confirmed by the fact that the activations did actually happen.
BEF's role is confirmed by the existence of sticky fruit.
If profii made up his role he could be a redirector. It would be incredibly bad play to fakeclaim a role that was going to be mechanically confirmed as scum later in the game, so profii almost certainly has a variant role.

Which is what made SS' move a hard scum claim and why Elsa is still on the table for me.

Yes we are on the same page jingle.

In post 8382, Jingle wrote:Profii- inventor
Drewva- activator
BEF- SFVendor

There are only 3 non whitelisted roles possible.

In order for a redirector to be in the setup, one of those has to not be. DrewVa's role is funtionally confirmed by the fact that the activations did actually happen.
BEF's role is confirmed by the existence of sticky fruit.
If profii made up his role he could be a redirector. It would be incredibly bad play to fakeclaim a role that was going to be mechanically confirmed as scum later in the game, so profii almost certainly has a variant role.

DrewVa's role is confirmed but is the role AI?

It just seems like a silly thing for them to lose like that. If PP were scum it would explain his entrance with tlk that day. The whole I sent you something would make more sense in both ways. 1 if PP had something to do with it it would be literal. 2 if PP was in on it he could have just been lying about having tried to send something to tlk and that was just a way to get that info out in the open.

I still dont get why scum would give that up if they could just pass it between themselves though.

Profii can full claim all his visits at this point anyway.

So elsa maths out as not enchantress

-d

Elsa is on the table, but is unlikely to be scum. I talked about why earlier, but basically the point of it is that EJ scumlynch only saves SS if EJ is traitor and SS actually wanted EJ dead, therefore EJ can only be traitor. I'd lynch him the day before LYLO or when there is no clear lynch.

Also, I'd like to point out.... Claims netting scum. Exactly the reason I wanted massclaim.

Only if PP is scum with either drewva or Profii, Nev.

In post 8385, BrightEyedFish wrote:DrewVa's role is confirmed but is the role AI?

Irrelevant to the you/profii dichotomy. The fact that one of the two of you has to be scum has nothing to do with Drewva's alignment.

Elsa is either traitor gifted ascetic N1 or town.

In post 8389, RCEnigma wrote:Only if PP is scum with either drewva or Profii, Nev.

With the way they have almost been conducting a coordinated assault on our slot i could easily see PP being scum with Drew.

In post 8390, Jingle wrote:

In post 8385, BrightEyedFish wrote:DrewVa's role is confirmed but is the role AI?

Irrelevant to the you/profii dichotomy. The fact that one of the two of you has to be scum has nothing to do with Drewva's alignment.

I get what you're saying, I guess all 3 roles could technically be of either alignment.

In post 8385, BrightEyedFish wrote:

In post 8382, Jingle wrote:Profii- inventor
Drewva- activator
BEF- SFVendor

There are only 3 non whitelisted roles possible.

In order for a redirector to be in the setup, one of those has to not be. DrewVa's role is funtionally confirmed by the fact that the activations did actually happen.
BEF's role is confirmed by the existence of sticky fruit.
If profii made up his role he could be a redirector. It would be incredibly bad play to fakeclaim a role that was going to be mechanically confirmed as scum later in the game, so profii almost certainly has a variant role.

DrewVa's role is confirmed but is the role AI?

If we could put three people in boonus and also redirect night actions this setup would be wildly scumsided

Profii might actually have to be scum and that confuses me

But it also excites me lol

-d

Which fits if Profii is a scum!Inventor.

In post 8391, Jingle wrote:Elsa is either traitor gifted ascetic N1 or town.

When did elsa claim traitor? Was it day 1? If scum thought it was true and then won a boonus round with ascetic in it, elsa would be a great choice to be gifted something that would essentially conceal them.

In post 8392, Nev and Max wrote:

In post 8389, RCEnigma wrote:Only if PP is scum with either drewva or Profii, Nev.

With the way they have almost been conducting a coordinated assault on our slot i could easily see PP being scum with Drew.

Your play today put you on the table for a Lynch fmpov as well so eh.

In post 8396, Nev and Max wrote:

In post 8391, Jingle wrote:Elsa is either traitor gifted ascetic N1 or town.

When did elsa claim traitor? Was it day 1? If scum thought it was true and then won a boonus round with ascetic in it, elsa would be a great choice to be gifted something that would essentially conceal them.

TruFax

I hinted/crumbed several times to profii when he SRd me and he never seemed to react to my posts.