In post 225, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:^^^ You know who the fuck this is because nancy isn't on board with this shit and I've made it clear I am. Not signing it.
Ari, i know you're trying to make a point here, but please sign your posts. not sometimes because "it's obvious", or because you said something only you would say.
for players like me, who already get easily confused when playing games due to genuine memory issues, i often can't tell who's posting anyway, or i need to expend effort to do so. it matters less if Nancy is signing every single time, and you aren't, but it takes so little effort to just do.
it means that instead of seeing the post and knowing it's you, i now i have to go and make sure it isn't just Nancy changing her mind, and i also have to remember that Nancy made the point about disliking it at all. that sounds easy, but it isn't, for me.
~Chara
I’m actually surprised by Ari’s strongly different reaction because he hasn’t said too much about it in our Discord chat. That said, I 100% agree with AC’s view on that.
In post 276, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:I’m actually surprised by Ari’s strongly different reaction because he hasn’t said too much about it in our Discord chat. That said, I 100% agree with AC’s view on that.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Apparently I feel strongly about this...
Developped the more I read this dumb shit clogging the thread.
isn't on board with this shit and I've made it clear I am. Not signing it.
Ari, i know you're trying to make a point here, but please sign your posts. not sometimes because "it's obvious", or because you said something only you would say.
for players like me, who already get easily confused when playing games due to genuine memory issues, i often can't tell who's posting anyway, or i need to expend effort to do so. it matters less if Nancy is signing every single time, and you aren't, but it takes so little effort to just do.
it means that instead of seeing the post and knowing it's you, i now i have to go and make sure it isn't just Nancy changing her mind, and i also have to remember that Nancy made the point about disliking it at all. that sounds easy, but it isn't, for me.
~Chara
With a post like that where they name drop their hydra partner it’s pretty easy to tell, though. Unless they were being extremely weird and speaking about themselves in 3rd person.
-the irradiated gemstone
Yeah, I think if you reference your hydra partner in a post, it’s pretty damned obvious.
In post 217, u r a person 2 wrote:I've also noticed pintu promising a catch up, and I've been watching to see if he was going to follow through. I guess it's been long enough to plop a vote there.
VOTE: Pintu
Hey you!
What do you think of pintu's post so far? I'd be interested to hear. I had a conversation with the voice in my head about it earlier.
Did it quack?
~N
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:39 am
by Taly
Spoiler: Replying to the presumably Nancy head
Yeah,
Nancy
... I was referring to Undertale as a towngame you took part in.
In post 186, Varsoon wrote:I'm not raging, Shoshin--I'm applying pressure to your slot and I don't appreciate your multiple attempts to rewrite my push on you as anything but.
I'd love to talk about Taly, but you've decided to dodge that subject entirely.
So, nah, I don't wanna talk about anyone else.
I want you lynched.
Are you townreading Taly then? Because unless you think they’re wrong, I think you shouldn’t disregard this.
'
So you think
Varsoon
should drop his scumread push on
STW
just because he doesn't feel as strongly on another scumread player?
Wrt the underlined, when have I seen town!you? I only remember playing with scum!you in Labrynth. If you’re possibly referring to Undertale, then I probably don’t remember. Sorry.
I spent an entire post constructing my thoughts so far in the game and townreading
STW
.... and you only comment about me mentioning you in the games I've played?
Like I can't see how scum would group such a specific area of people in a lynch pool, and proceed to give an honest positive read to the rest of the playerlist with the amount of chaos and town communication barriers present in the game thus far.
(A 1v1, an L-1'd wagon that spawned from RVS initially, etc.)
By the way, can you explain your lynch pool
Almost?
What part of our not actually voting them, did you miss?
So you've been posting in this game all this time and haven't conjured a strong scumread or townread, or are even pushing to acquire one?
The fact that you spent multiple posts debating with
STW
and disagreeing with
Ari
on how to handle their "not signing" thing while you don't place or vote or do anything else doesn't ring to me as town-motivated.
In post 199, Taly wrote:also for everyone who disagrees with me on
STW
, give me a SIMPLE bullet-pointed list on the reasons their posting is scum-motivated
*optional challenge because y not?*
convince me how
Mephisto
isn't scum
We’re not. And why are we scum here? Based on?
I don’t like this post. You have no basis to sr us and you formulating this like this is somehow obvious to anyone other than lobotomised individuals, is really scummy af.
Yeah, I do have a REASON to suspect
you/ari
as scum. For the amount of posting both of you have done, there's very little content.
You keep putting up the defense of
"you're being really scummy" and "why scumread us"
but you're not actually entertaining why, aside from painting my posts toward you as pro-scum.
Hell, it took a LITTLE post of me pushing for responses on your slot, and your next posts are to disregard any content I've had with multiple people in the game, and minimize any thought I have over you.
The fact that you don't put up a vote and just continue to 'mildly entertain' my wagon in 270, doesn't read as genuine.
And if you're going to make the bullshit argument that I'm posturing, then why not evaluate the TvT between
STW
and
Vars
that I concluded from my own reads? You're making multiple accusations without really looking anything deeper than a centimeter into my posts.
Preliminary lynch pool (in no particular order): Shoshin the worst, Mewtaph, u r a person 2, pinturucchio, nicorobin, Kokichi Oma
Everyone else is on the positive side of null to some degree.
Disclaimer: I have not discussed any reads/reasoning with Chara yet. Thi8s preliminary list is subject to change when we do get to discuss stuff in the PT. After all, it's D1 and Chara is the one with the gift of tone reading alignments.
~The guy watching TV, playing Mafia, following a soccer game and eating all at the same time.
SEE now this is what I'm here for!
And while this is an easy throwaway post for scum, coming in when it did seems towny.
I actually made a reason behind why I thought
Almost
was town by this point... but you make the whole statement of "it could be scum, but it's appearing towny" isn't a concrete read...
In post 181, Shoshin the worst wrote:taly is the kind of player capable of writing in a narrative driven fashion which means if we alert him to what were looking at/for too early, we'll lose what momentum we do have.
~ the worst & Shoshin
I'm flattered you guys think I'm this good as scum... but I think you guys underestimate my perceptiveness as town.
But this reinforces my point above. You both are using meta-logic to explain an early read on me, on how I make consistent narratives as scum.
Yet the only focal point I've made are two stances that I gathered through a 1v1 between you and
Varsoon
, which I townread both of you on. There's no motivation or means I could get towncred by posturing myself around your potential lynch if nobody is even entertaining my train of thought.
Two interessting points.
One is that I don't think you are outside your scungame yet, so I'll be keeping you in mind as the game progresses.
Second is the TvT read of S&W and Var. Can you explain the last line of this quote to me please?
I'm saying, the only major even I've responded to in this game so far, is
STW
/
Vars
when they were 1v1ing, and I concluded they were both town off my own reasons.
And what are you talking about
Ari
? You've never played with me as scum to my memory.
And also, why is
"
Taly's
not outside of his scumgame"
a reason to not try and view town-motivation in my posts?
In post 201, Varsoon wrote:I forgot how much I love Taly-posting.
It's been too looong.
I don't know what to make of Mephisto. They kept coming up with excuses/outs for STW to take, which rang a bit awkward to me.
Well you keep being ridiculous. I'm just trying to be a reasonable party in all of this!
Reasonable... and ineffective.
...I really want
STW
to jump into the thread and explain their read on me AND reply to my spoiler to them, because at the moment, I can't find a town-motivated reason for anyone else to push a scumread on me UNLESS they actually give THEIR OWN opinion.
In post 137, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Varsoon posted 2 links, one to Starcraft 1, where you encouraged everyone multiple times to “stretch their mind” and the second, to TAZ, where you didn’t do that even once.
VOTE: Taly
Hi Taly,
Would you kindly talk to me about your varsoon read (or any read you have other than Shoshin the worst)
At this point I see nothing to indicate Taly is not simply misled here
@Grecian philosopher: I guess you have a point, if it was from a hydra that was signing seriously I’d really have a problem but since they’re already taking the piss here it’s understandable, not that I like it any more.
-Gemerald (shout-outs to Ari, the originator of this nickname!)
Wait, are you saying you think I'm wrong about my reads? Or that the wagon on me is wrong?
In post 199, Taly wrote:also for everyone who disagrees with me on
STW
, give me a SIMPLE bullet-pointed list on the reasons their posting is scum-motivated
*optional challenge because y not?*
convince me how
Mephisto
isn't scum
Why? My partner has stated they want to locktown Nancystophanes and I’m mildly inclined to agree rn. So tell me what scummy things you see there?
-that damn fourth Chaos Emerald
Namely the points in my recent reply to both heads.
I haven't played with either of them enough to "locktown" meta read on them on anything... so could you explain that read?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:43 am
by Taly
In post 265, Varsoon wrote:I don't have an informed read on Taly yet. Leaning more town there than not right now. Wish Shoshin wouldn't dodge responsibility for their read there, wish you wouldn't consistently chainsaw the slot either, Mephisto.
, I explained my thoughts on them, do you think they're posts are town-indicative or scum?
also... really would like to know more about
STW's
vote on
u r a person 2
...
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:58 am
by Taly
Spoiler: video expressing my mood exactly right now... *contains swearing*
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:59 am
by Mephistophanes 39
In post 265, Varsoon wrote:I don't have an informed read on Taly yet. Leaning more town there than not right now. Wish Shoshin wouldn't dodge responsibility for their read there, wish you wouldn't consistently chainsaw the slot either, Mephisto.
@Mewtaph: Why would it be entertaining if NotChara crumbed that?
Can I not disagree with you on this? All last game, I was wracking my brain, trying to figure out why very little of Shoshin’s play made any sense, based on what I know of her meta and with just a few posts, I feel better about them here, then I ever did once in that entire game, because Shoshin’s play, she they stopped being a smartass, is reminding me of what I remember from Labrynth - something that never happened even once in Starcraft 1.
So, if they keep this up and don’t replicate any of the weird shit they did last game, I’ll continue to tr them.
~N
That said, I still am not a fan of their synchronized reads thing but you have to base your read on
content
and can’t you see how it’s very different from last game?
In post 234, Tibor and Lumia wrote:Since this never got a good point to be brought up, I am townreading Alchemist rn. His solving looks genuine and he’s quite present. Matches my concept of town!Alchemist over scum!Alchemist.
-Gamma Quadrant
PEdit: I’m assuming that’s Shoshin asking me that since I’ve played with tw a lot recently. Idk about U2, I’ll figure it out and post it in a full readlist later most likely.
Also, if tw and U2 form a hydra it should be called Detroit Become Human.
I was wondering why you hadn’t mentioned me yet. It was getting weird.
Alchemist, as someone who has no experience whatsoever in playing with you: how would you be reading yourself, if you were another slot in this game? (Sorry for the annoying question. I'm going somewhere with this I promise.)
Town.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:15 am
by Alchemist21
In post 253, Mewtaph wrote:Not really following this. Why does scum-to-town not give an out at all? Why does the described scum-to-scum scenario have to involve Mephistophanes 39 giving an out to Shoshin the worst at all?
Scum to Town doesn’t because they want the pressure to stay on the Town slot.
And you’re with me on tbe scum to scum scenario, it doesn’t happen, at least not in the game thread.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:16 am
by Varsoon
Yeah, Taly's town.
Alchemist is town.
Need to sort:
Kokichi, who should be more present and who's IC claim only makes sense one way that I can figure
Pint, who seems to really be slipping under the radar.
I'm still good for a STW lynch, all that said.
@Mephisto: Keep in mind that Shoshin was 3P that actually had to scumhunt in Starcraft 1, whereas here Shoshin would just be hard scum having to fake scumreads.