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Cool then. Your current best solve is {jjh927, ProFlavor, Mewtaph}, right?

In post 2898, jjh927 wrote:What the shit about brass' initiation of a 1v1 was towny? I can point to a bunch of really bad points in those posts

Bad points =/= scum.
I'm going by meta - by his May meta at least this (the way he reacted in the 1v1) is out of his scumrange; and I don't think it's likely that it's grown so much over a hiatus.

In post 2896, Michael Scott wrote:

In post 2893, Varsoon wrote:I don't feel like putting in the effort at all.

You should, man. You're the only confirmed town at this point.

I feel like I'll just continue to lead us to ruin and that's why I was allowed to even live this long.

Talking about scumranges tends to make for very poor and subjective arguments that boil down to circular reasoning

In post 2900, Michael Scott wrote:Cool then. Your current best solve is {jjh927, ProFlavor, Mewtaph}, right?

Yep, or you with T&L and Mewtaph, since I still think Flavor Leaf's reaction to Mewtaph's wagon on D1 was too suboptimal for scum unless they were both scum. But your claim is sketchy, or at least the way you presented it and being you the last one doing it. I thought that you would have something more spicy, but now it seems like you managed to claim last with a lie.

In post 2902, Varsoon wrote:I feel like I'll just continue to lead us to ruin and that's why I was allowed to even live this long.

Honest opinion - doesn't matter, man.
You're a capable player, having a bad game - doesn't mean you can't turn things around.
Also, play to have fun. It's cool if you play your best and it results in a loss.

In post 2904, pinturicchio wrote:But your claim is sketchy, or at least the way you presented it and being you the last one doing it. I thought that you would have something more spicy, but now it seems like you managed to claim last with a lie.

I was ready to go at any point. If I was scum I'd have something spicier tbh
There's no scum benefit to also claiming BP especially if both jjh927 and T&L are town BP. Correct me if wrong?

I don't trust my judgment here and I don't want to thrust myself into a position that people will sheep just because I'm conf-town when others are far more likely to have their head in the game in a way that can solve it.

If something feels right, I'll throw my weight behind it, but right now, nothing feels right and I'm not having a great time.

In post 2906, Michael Scott wrote:

In post 2904, pinturicchio wrote:But your claim is sketchy, or at least the way you presented it and being you the last one doing it. I thought that you would have something more spicy, but now it seems like you managed to claim last with a lie.

I was ready to go at any point. If I was scum I'd have something spicier tbh
There's no scum benefit to also claiming BP especially if both jjh927 and T&L are town BP. Correct me if wrong?

The benefit is saying that T&L is town and that jjh should be shot; that means none of them flips and you get to lead whatever happens on D3, like a mislynch on ProFlavor, which I was expecting to be your next move.

In post 2903, jjh927 wrote:Talking about scumranges tends to make for very poor and subjective arguments that boil down to circular reasoning

The bulk of arguments in this game are subjective, though.
It's not circular reasoning. Meta is a pretty useful tool.
Besides, I asked for your T&L case - apart from their 'bad points' in the 1v1, what else makes them scum?

In post 2908, pinturicchio wrote:The benefit is saying that T&L is town and that jjh should be shot; that means none of them flips and you get to lead whatever happens on D3, like a mislynch on ProFlavor, which I was expecting to be your next move.

And the cost of the whole crumbing multiple BP, finally fakeclaiming BP doesn't justify the very slim benefit of being able to pull off that kinda stretched gambit.

You also told me to hold off on casing them when I had time yesterday and right now I'm on my phone. I'm talking the kind of in depth megacase I often do

Well, okay, then. Also, could you tell me your read on ProFlavor?

In post 2910, Michael Scott wrote:

In post 2908, pinturicchio wrote:The benefit is saying that T&L is town and that jjh should be shot; that means none of them flips and you get to lead whatever happens on D3, like a mislynch on ProFlavor, which I was expecting to be your next move.

And the cost of the whole crumbing multiple BP, finally fakeclaiming BP doesn't justify the very slim benefit of being able to pull off that kinda stretched gambit.

It makes sense, Mike. You and your partner claim BP to get an agenda. You can disagree, but it still makes sense coming from scum

It's objectively a bad move as scum, I'm saying, as the costs outweigh the benefits; furthermore in this gamestate with us scum and JJH town it's a much slimmer benefit than you seem to think it is, because if I was scum and JJH was town that's a *very likely* mislynch today.

In post 2914, Michael Scott wrote:It's objectively a bad move as scum, I'm saying, as the costs outweigh the benefits; furthermore in this gamestate with us scum and JJH town it's a much slimmer benefit than you seem to think it is, because if I was scum and JJH was town that's a *very likely* mislynch today.

I disagree. T&L has been townread along the whole game, and you got really "townleader" during this day compared to the others. You remind me of Flavor Leaf on OK2, and that's a huge fucking compliment.

See - T&L being townread means I can go "townleader" mode and also simply push jjh927 *without* orchestrating an elaborate double fakeclaim with T&L.
Like cool, I get the paranoia, I'm just showing how it's really implausible.
Also place your vote I guess?

Scum doing implausible things is what makes scum to win a game.

VOTE: jjh927

Logic being that if it's too implausible, it's not alignment-indicative.

Also, could you walk me through why ProFlavor is in your solve?
You were very confident on him being town before.

In post 2918, Michael Scott wrote:Logic being that if it's too implausible, it's not alignment-indicative.

Also, could you walk me through why ProFlavor is in your solve?
You were very confident on him being town before.

He's the one I'm least convinced, but scum!Mewtaph gives much more scum equity to ProFlavor

Cool, cool. The way you're pushing me and our equal primary solves makes me think you're town, especially if jjh927 flips scum; I asked that just to make sure you were being consistent with what I read from your ISO.

I dunno what to make of FL's lack of investment this game - he enjoys playing scum, right? Cause he's been active in other games.

Well, I am town, so cool

Maybe JJH will realize there was a point where I conceded that he is scum BP.

Like this whole thing of me saying there's only one BP is a misrep anyway because like scum can have a shitload of BPs. I'm more inclined to believe MS's claim of BP than JJH, but I'm still moving you down a few notches for a claim that I'm not positive I fully believe.

I did expect that you would, given your own prior belief that town would have only one BP; fair enough.

I will openly admit to being a parenting fuck