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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:11 am

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In post 1397, brassherald wrote:I will publicly say I would rather do that. So that maybe someone can believe it when I return to playing and offer it again.
You do realize this would be deliberately against your win-con, and thus gamethrowing, right?
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:16 am

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In post 1399, rosterfoster wrote:Regardless, best choice for WW is to basically force town to HEA which is what A50 did. Only problem is he disappeared so didn’t do it.
I think A50 considered Egix town. Otherwise, he could've done this the preceding day, no?
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:40 am

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Ah, gg. Good reads on Auro early Roster. Well played Auro.
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:41 am

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I'll be level... I'm... not sure how anyone townread Egix... like I blanked on the semantics of the mafia role pm and figured I could just shoot him tonight but ya 50% is 50%. I definitely should have pushed his lynch and asked brass to help. :facepalm:
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:43 am

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(yes, my better play was to claim werewolf there. my bad.)
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:45 am

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@TW, Roster was Mafia with me :P
Mafia team's Auro+Roster+Egix.

We were in 2-1-2 T-M-W today.
Egix and you were the only uncleared slots; if you lynched Egix you'd lose no matter who you take to LyLo because you become known scum after that.
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:45 am

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yeah that's what I meant, his anti associatives at you early on were cool
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:48 am

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I think mechanically optimal play was to claim ww, lynch Egix, not kill, go into 4p and lynch between {you, Bambi} then just nk the other basically. assuming brass was okay with me taking the win.

the wincon derp was real. I truly am the worst.
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:51 am

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In post 341, rosterfoster wrote:Prodging - I'll post more tonight. I was getting some bad feels off Auro though.
We were panicking about this post in the mafia PT. only thing was I hadn’t realised Auro was my buddy at that point! I can’t rememeber exactly when D1 I realised Auro was my partner, might have actually been when I saw him posting in the PT N1.
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:54 am

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In post 1407, the worst wrote:I think mechanically optimal play was to claim ww, lynch Egix, not kill, go into 4p and lynch between {you, Bambi} then just nk the other basically. assuming brass was okay with me taking the win.

the wincon derp was real. I truly am the worst.
This requires that Brass and Jay both gamethrow.
Correct mechanical play if you're 100% on Egix mafia is to force a draw, since you're never winning.
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:56 am

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In post 1409, Auro wrote:This requires that Brass and Jay both gamethrow.
Correct mechanical play if you're 100% on Egix mafia
My plan to prevent you from realizing this was building an associative with Bambi today by trying to progress into pushing Brass while saying partnery stuff like "Should we take the draw, Bambi" so you'd believe Auro+Jay was the solve and try to take the win yourself. :P

Unfortunately, you just directly voted Jay.
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:59 am

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Town has already lost the ability to win, so it's certainly not gamethrowing. :) There's no game left to be thrown.

I'll maintain this game was winnable for either of us, I made a fatal error.

pedit: oh, fair. I think it was a bit too late to form false associatives. I wasn't paying attention to that as possible w/w at all. I was at {egix + {Bambi, auro}}. I forgot the wincon and chose poorly though. :P
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:02 am

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In post 532, Auro wrote:because I'm virtually unlynchable at this point.
A50 correctly caught me as Mafia for this :lol:


Pedit: Unwinnable for town considering optimal play from Wolves, similar to how it's Unwinnable for wolves considering optimal play for town. The moment you lynch Egix, it becomes winnable for town.
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:03 am

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If I got lynched and you shot Egix, that's a town win. You go to LyLo with Brass and Bambi both cleared town, you always get lynched in LyLo.
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:08 am

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Why would I shoot tho? :P
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:09 am

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I'd be better off being friendly, letting the remaining town play kingmaker and crossing my fingers, than shooting with a mechanical 50% chance of instant loss.
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:09 am

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That's probably pushing into playstyle indicative territory though so I understand we might hit an impasse somewhere around here...
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:15 am

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In post 1415, the worst wrote:I'd be better off being friendly, letting the remaining town play kingmaker and crossing my fingers, than shooting with a mechanical 50% chance of instant loss.
Brass/Bambi/Egix/TW

Egix claims Mafia, forced draw, no?
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:56 am

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Votecount 5.xAuro (1): Bambi Jay
Bambi Jay (3): Auro, the worst, Egix96

Not voting: brassherald


A win condition has been reached.


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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:56 am

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Unfortunately I don't have any PT links :(
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:58 am

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viewtopic.php?f=90&t=78657

My PT, if Gamma decides to ever unlock it. Not too impressive.
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:59 am

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Oh I do have the mafia one, I just don't have access to it. Woo.

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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:39 am

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In post 1419, Papa Zito wrote:Unfortunately I don't have any PT links :(
Ah that's a shame. I was really looking forward to reading the Graveyard and Werewolf PTs.

Happy scumday btw!
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:42 am

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o yea happy scumday Zito!


@Auro it's the town's call then :P
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:52 am

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@tw the town chooses between
1. Letting Mafia win
2. Letting WW win
3. Draw

(3) is always a superior option to (1) or (2), I think it'd be gamethrowing otherwise, no? :P
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