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i do gut scumread vedith

there is the eternal question of what scums plan here is if the conesnsus townblock is correct, ank already brought this up i think and skitter to. i think pink balls actions are consistent with scum in that situation with the trying to get me lynched. maybe eragon with just not doing much to push reads as well although thats a bit less reliable

vedith hasnt brought up a few people yet, me ausuka slaxx from memory so there could laso be the begininngs of something there, obviously speculation though

I'd rather sort my Scum reads first.

VOTE: pink ball
because the eragon townread thing

In post 328, Pink Ball wrote:

In post 321, lazyreads wrote:

In post 313, Pink Ball wrote:

In post 297, lazyreads wrote:based off of things i would guess that there is one scum in pink ball, slaxx, ankamius and one scum in skitter, Eragon, tosser

not really sure on the first group, maybe pink ball, second group i would guess eragon

I'm not following any of what she's said at this point. She says there is one scum in a group that seems random (why Slaxx, Ank and me? What's the correlation there?) and between another group that seems random, finishing with saying who probably is scum: me, who she has been pushing for the stupidest thing she can take, and Eragon who I'm townreading and explicitly said I was. In fact, is the only read I've stated. So this whole things seems off and like pushing an agenda.

pushing what agenda

what does you townreading eragon have to do with me or anything

If you separate people into two groups, you can go an mislynch one, then the other and then the other. Let's say all from my group are town: if you say "on of the three is scum" it implies aligning lynches and scum wins. Then there's the option of one being your scumpartner; you just leave him/her for the end of the lynch order. That's the agenda.

Eragon has to do because I'm townreading him and I know I'm town so I see you're pushing one player I know you're wrong and other player I think you're wrong. 0/2

vote pb

I'm favouring Eragon over PB right now.
But that depends to what Eragon says about their reads.

In post 494, Ausuka wrote:HEAL: Invisibility

this is popular enough and I think he's town so.

your posts feel kinda awkward to me and i don't know why :/

In post 495, lazyreads wrote:still think pink ball is likely scum, undecided who is second most scummy. vedith i think is scummier than tosser was

why do you think vedith is scummier than tosser?
i actually think he's been wholly nai and my vote is mostly residual tbh

i kinda want to vote ausuka rn but i don't know why
i feel like ... ambivalent wrt both eragon and pink ball and i feel like even though it's a 20 page game i don't really have enough from any of them to have a solid scumread on rn

It can be PB/Aus I think

Lynch me already, I'm done with this game. I tried to put some effort but it won't happen; I start being scumread even before I got my role PM. I'll be a liability at the end, better mislynch me now

Slaxx and skitter, I tried to reach both of you and I didn't get the chance. Lolreads, you are either scum or you tunneled me for the most stupid shit I've ever seen in this site.

About my Eragon progression: so y'all think it was scummy to townread him at the begining and that my read was shit, and when I say that maybe he's scum after what everyone pointed out, I get scumread because of that? Get your head out of your asses. If you want to lynch somebody 'cause the game is not progressing, say it, no problem. But don't try to justify a shitty read with some kind of logic that doesn't exist. You'll look bad either way.

i think you're kinda upset with me but i don't know why you are?
i'd like to try to work through this with you and try to work it out if i can but i'm not entirely sure why you're mad at me?

Why do you think I'm upset with you? I said I tried to talk things out with you, never said I'm upset with you. I do think your scumread on me is unjustified and a bit unfair since I start the game being scumread by tone. But I'm not upset, maybe disappointed? But not with you in particular, with the game maybe.

idk i kinda thought you were mad at me? and i wasn't sure what i did to prompt that

i'm not really scumreading you tho, that's the part i'm not really following? like you keep indicating you think i shouldn't be scumreading you and that i ought to know better but ... i'm not scumreading you rn

you're in my poe, yes, but i don't really actively scumread ... anyone rn and that's what i was saying a few posts up, that the game is weird - i townread a bunch of people and everyone else is in my poe even though i don't explicitly scumread them really

like yeah i found you scummy on tone ... but i always do so i don't pay much credence to it; it doesn't really mean anything if i scumread you on tone for the last three games and you were town in two of them; obviously scumreading you on tone is not a good way to read you so it's not a very significant indicator. i was more noting that i felt that way but i wasn't pushing you off of it really

so like i *do* read parts of your play as scummy but i don't give it much weight because i always do so holistically even though the individual actions are scummy they don't make me scumread you? idk if i explained that better but does that make sense?

I only ask you to read me because of my motivations and my reads instead of tone, is that fair? If I'm in your PoE, you're wrong. I'll flip today either way and I'll flip town. Who will be your PoE tomorrow

dae this is forced pathos in kind of a situation where a townie wouldn’t really act like this

yes, i've said i'm not reading you on tone for that reason because it's not reliable

i'm a little bit :/ out of this game and am having trouble remembering what your reads are offhand, can you remind me?

if you flip scum i guess somethign like ausuka > vedith >> and hoenstly i don't know what goes on here i don't have a good enough sense of everyone else's reads rn to fill out the rest of the chart

if you're town i think i vote one of {ausuka/vedith/eragon} tomorrow

i geuss your flip won't help my poe too much really
i don't think you're my optimal lynch today anyways, i'd rather in {ausuka/vedith}

honestly i don't have a good enough grasp of the gamestate to figure out the implications upon your flip rn which is sad because i'm almost never this disengaged from the gamestate and i'm trying to envision that universe and i just can't, i just don't have a good enough feel for the associatives between everyone rn and it's weird and very disorienting and i don't know how to approach a gamestate or form associative-based reads when i don't have that base level of knowledge to work with

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lazyreads and ank have similar poes to me, as does slaxx and vizzy i think
i don't know if i should be worried that everyone i'm townreading is mostly townreading everyone else

i really have no idea what to think about all of {pink ball, eragon, vedith, ausuka}
ausuka is gut-scummy but i have no idea why, all of her posts just feel awkward
vedith is residually scummy from tosser but i dont't hink he's done anything ai really
eragon is being lazy and it's wifom-y and i don't know how to read him
pink ball hasn't done anything i know how to read conclusively either

so that's where i'm at and that's not very helpful and it's kinda frustrating but i don't know how to get back into this or to kickstart it again

In post 451, Ausuka wrote:437 is actually quite towny i think and i townlean ankamius for it which means that scum are probably in a pool of {skitter, slaxx, eragon} and of that pool i think i'm inclined to think slaxx is town? so i'll look to see if skitter/eragon is viable here.

ausuka did you work on this more?
talk about your read on me?

the fact that both ausuka and vedith want eragon is a bit worrying - that two members of my poe want another person in it
they *probably* aren't scum together? maybe?

In post 464, Vedith wrote:Okay. I've done a read through at last. Yay Vedith \o/
I really like Invisibility Ank and Skitter as town. Which is odd as I don't normally town read easily.
Eragon and PB are pinging my finger tips. PB town reading Eragon for a weak reason and now all of a sudden back tracking?
Eragons posts to PB all look pre planned or faked.
181 and 208 just feel planned between them.

do you have any thoughts on ausuka, slaxx, or lazyreads?

i'm not really vibing voting eragon rn i think

also didn't i scumread you day1 in the open ...?
or am i misremembering

In post 515, Invisibility wrote:dae this is forced pathos in kind of a situation where a townie wouldn’t really act like this

???? Could you speak english please?

he thinks you're faking being bored/frustrated rn and that town doesn't act this way in this situation

In post 518, Pink Ball wrote:

In post 515, Invisibility wrote:dae this is forced pathos in kind of a situation where a townie wouldn’t really act like this

???? Could you speak english please?

does anyone else think that this is...
pathos is appeal to emotion that might have actually been kind of confusing

PB's first languagse isnt english if i recall so keep that in mind

that isn't like...a condescending or xenophobic thing, hopefully people here know me well enough to know that

I don't know skitter, I'm tired of being pushed for nothing, I'm sorry. I don't have any strong reads 'cause the gamestate is not good for being comfortable with anyone. I was pretty sure Slaxx was town but now I have my doubts about him.

Ooooh ok Vizzy thanks for the clarification and yes, I was going to say exactly what Slaxx said

it's kinda hard for me to read you off of your reads and motivations like you asked when you don't seem to really have any :/