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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:57 am
by Ankamius
yeah, wp town

it's pretty impressive nailing the entire scumteam in lylo like that, I don't think I've ever seen that before(?)

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:36 am
by Fuscosco
gg.

I saw the moment the town made the right move. Its kind of satisfying to see

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:15 pm
by chennisden
In post 3448, Irrelephant11 wrote:Scum’s repeated rep outs were pretty classless, but I’m happy about the overall result :]
Agreed. Especially the Auro slot, that's what lost them the game.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:21 pm
by chennisden
viewtopic.php?p=10836864#p10836864

Calm down because you would've known what I meant had you been town.

You didn't know because you were SCUM and everyone saw that.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:22 pm
by chennisden
I didn't gutlynch SR btw; I was very aware he was scum and Shoshin was town

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:24 pm
by chennisden
Thanks for staying in the game and not replacing out, Ank.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:25 pm
by Ankamius
game was over, might as well pad my postcount

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:26 pm
by Creature
I wonder how interesting would it be if ManateeDude decided to choose three townies instead of including himself.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:26 pm
by chennisden
In post 3457, Creature wrote:I wonder how interesting would it be if ManateeDude decided to choose three townies instead of including himself.
We would've immediately killed him afterwards.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:27 pm
by Creature
In post 3458, chennisden wrote:
In post 3457, Creature wrote:I wonder how interesting would it be if ManateeDude decided to choose three townies instead of including himself.
We would've immediately killed him afterwards.
You'd need to sacrifice one town first though.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:27 pm
by Creature
I think we've had a recent newbie that was something like this.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:39 pm
by Ankamius
he didn't even choose

I did

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:40 pm
by Ankamius
I thought it was more humane to just end the suffering instead of padding the game out for no reason when there was 0% win chance left

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:41 pm
by Creature
*be lock and last scum*
*however be a suboptimal/nonviable lynch*
*watch town implode trying to figure which of them is the scummiest*

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:41 pm
by Creature
Maybe I would go the sadistic route.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:41 pm
by Ankamius
I'd rather just die gracefully tbh

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:44 pm
by chennisden
In post 3462, Ankamius wrote:I thought it was more humane to just end the suffering instead of padding the game out for no reason when there was 0% win chance left
ty

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:22 pm
by volxen
Good game all! :) Taking down scum!Auro was a lot of fun.

Auro, next time you need to be town and I need to be scum. I want to see if you can catch me again like you did in Robo. :)

Or, we should get all of the players back from Newbie 1893 (Trendall, Thor, NotNova, Egix, BBmolla, Lamees, and Wantsome) and have a Newbie 1893 reunion game with the exact same playerlist. Except this time Trendall and I should be scum together, and we can stage a massive fight over definitions and statistics in the game thread. And no matter what, Thor needs to get lynched at some point. Lmfao.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:36 pm
by volxen
In post 3450, Ankamius wrote:yeah, wp town

it's pretty impressive nailing the entire scumteam in lylo like that, I don't think I've ever seen that before(?)
Well it didn't help that I know Auro very well and can to some extent predict what he would do as scum, so once I finally became convinced that Shoshin was town, it was obvious that Auro was trying to setup Vedith and Chennisden as back-to-back mislynches with the day four nomination list, meaning his partners had to be DoubtingThomas and Scumreading (who were both individually scummy anyways).

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:53 pm
by Auro
Well played Volxen and Shoshin, and Chen too. :D

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:07 pm
by chennisden
i think im proud of how i turned around the slot that was set up as mislynch

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:07 pm
by chennisden
gg auro, did not see you being scum until your slipup

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:09 pm
by Auro
Wait where did I slip up?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:17 pm
by Auro
My plan was to continue bussing SR and make him make iffy associations with Shoshin while spewing me town; while I "come around" on DT, and appeal to Alonzo that I'm town (that was the slot we had the best chance of convincing) while keeping you an option since you weren't an early SR vote.

Alonzo seemed to townread effort, so hyperposting would've been the best bet then, and even might have worked *shrug*. And I wasn't in a position to do that continuously.

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:16 pm
by volxen
In post 3473, Auro wrote:My plan was to continue bussing SR and make him make iffy associations with Shoshin while spewing me town; while I "come around" on DT, and appeal to Alonzo that I'm town (that was the slot we had the best chance of convincing) while keeping you an option since you weren't an early SR vote.

Alonzo seemed to townread effort, so hyperposting would've been the best bet then, and even might have worked *shrug*. And I wasn't in a position to do that continuously.
The only way you would have had a chance at pulling this off is if you beat Shoshin to the punch and if you started the 1vs1 against SR by voting for you first, and had him vote you back and tunnel you and completely ignore Shoshin. Then try to make the argument that Shoshin had no choice but to bus SR because you started the 1vs1. And then stage scum theater along the lines of "Hey why won't SR switch his vote from me to Shoshin? They are probably scumbuddies because Shoshin is confirmed scum from town!SR's point of view and yet he is ignoring her".

It's just like Starcraft Mafia 2 when we started the wagon against JJh, and Pint sheeped us onto that wagon. It's much more likely that the person
starting
the wagon against scum is town, and that bussing scum is joining the wagon after it's already a foregone conclusion that their scumbuddy is going down. As soon as Shoshin started that 1vs1 against SR, you literally had no choice but to vote for SR because you were heavily "townreading" Shoshin all-game long.

You also opened up on day five by stating a clear preference of lynching Chennisden over Scumreading, which was a huge clue that you wanted to avoid bussing SR if at all possible.

In other words, it would have needed to play out the exact opposite compared to how it actually played out (with Shoshin starting the 1vs1 and you not voting SR until after Shoshin did). Even then, Shoshin and I were heavily on to you. You still would have had to try and take out one of {Shoshin, Volxen} through the nomination list and then try to win over Alonzo in lylo. I think that would have been your one and only play here, and it would have required you to really play off of Alonzo's paranoia about Shoshin and I.