micro 858: silver 3 (ended game)

[Draco Lucky]

draco lucky is the Wutang clan generator name for some combination of slaxx and my name

-U2

[schadd_]

ohh baby when you talk like that
you make a woman go mad
so be wise, and keep on
reading the signs of my body
shakira - hips don't lie

Vote count 1.7

StarwingBeauvoi (3):

rosterfoster, Draco Lucky, Iconeum

rosterfoster (3):

StarwingBeauvoi, Alacrity, Merry and Pippin

Draco Lucky (2):

GeminiTwin12, Jungle Medicine

Alacrity (1):

Vedith

not voting (0):

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends april 3rd at 12:45 central US time; in (expired on 2019-04-03 12:45:00)

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[Draco Lucky]

Okay, yeah it was this progression on Ico and JM that I thought was townie. It's not great analysis, but I don't think it's scummy. I think you can see spontaneous read, a read that isn't being embellished even when it's questioned.

The rest of the convo with brass was the second bit I liked. The whole I'm not going to fight you because you're town thing rings townie to me. The apology for not having more in lieu of making literally anything up seems more likely from town than from scum. This is where my read came from

Spoiler:

Iconeum scum reads both me and Jungle (equally?) but tries to push for my lynch when there's a hefty wagon on Jungle.

They're buddies.

Iconeum scum reads both me and Jungle (equally?) but tries to push for my lynch when there's a hefty wagon on Jungle.

They're buddies.

Please explain either your read on Jungle or Inconeum.

I didn't really until that post, which I just explained.

Also I know you wont believe me but I was literally going to vote Jungle before I got Ninja'd by the post from Draco. I slightly changed the content to make it fit the convo.

So, your case is that iconeum is scum for protecting Jungle and Jungle is scum because he's being protected by Iconeum?

He's trying to start a counterwagon to stop the buddy from being lynched (scum getting lynched D1 would be tough in this game I think), while still scumreading the buddy so that if the buddy flips he stays kind of town.

Okay, let's say we flip one of them, and they end up town. Is there still a reason to scum read the other?

Nope.

I don't like that you have no real reads.

I am pretty happy with that vote.

I find it really hard to get anything from discussions about meta when I don’t really know the meta of the people involved.

Sorry.

I don't like that you have no real reads.

I am pretty happy with that vote.

At least no real reads on your scum team that you are claiming.

And the worst part is your town, so I’m not going to fight you.

Pedit: If I had substance I would say it. But I don’t.

I find it really hard to get anything from discussions about meta when I don’t really know the meta of the people involved.

Sorry.

The talk has not been entirely about meta, though. And even if it was, you should be able to form some opinion from the talk, imo.

It seemed that way to me.

And I probably should be able to. Just I can’t.

I'm pondering on his last few days rn watch this space

-U2

[Merry and Pippin]

The three worst slots in the game are on starwing and u2 literally just said "I'm pondering"

[Alacrity]

Merry, could you give me some posts to look at so that I could see where you are coming from, please? =)

[Draco Lucky]

What's wrong with pondering lol.

Here's where I'm at.

Rooster's read on vedith doesn't make sense to me. It sounds like "I town read him twice before for bad reasons and it worked so I'm going for three straight" It doesn't seem like a great way to sort Vedith, imo, but I gotta assume it's a real thing because unless it's vedith + roster, vedith would probably call him out on it.

@roster Was one of the games Gators? Because I don't remember you doing this in Gators.

And then I'm also not sure what I think about roster presenting as frustrated that vedith won't engage with him and then going directly into a defense of that same play as a reason to town read vedith. Part of me wants to call it a fake for being awkward, and part of me can't figure out why scum!roster would fake it.

so yeah, I'm pondering on it

-U2

[Draco Lucky]

@starwing what do you think about Roster transitioning from frustration to pushing his vedith town read there?

-U2

[Draco Lucky]

Actually, above post @anyone who wants in on this

-U2

[Draco Lucky]

@Vedith Can you talk to me about either your alacrity or Starwing scum reads?

-U2

[Draco Lucky]

I don't think I could see myself voting roster today. My early reads are usually my better reads, I think

I guess if the eod wagons are me vs roster but let's not do that please =P

-U2

[Vedith]

@Vedith Can you talk to me about either your alacrity or Starwing scum reads?

-U2

I think I changed my mind on both.

[Draco Lucky]

And I take it you're not into talking about your town reads on either alacrity or starwing then?

-U2

[Vedith]

I liked Starwings interaction with me today.

[Draco Lucky]

and alacrity?

-U2

[Draco Lucky]

tomorrow going to be another hectic work day so probably not around til evening central time again

We need to start moving votes one way or another. I'd prefer starwing, gemini, or vedith.

-U2

[GeminiTwin12]

What has my slot in your preferred pool?

[Merry and Pippin]

casing is hard

[Merry and Pippin]

people who ask me to make cases are bullies

[Iconeum]

I'm back, y'all

[Iconeum]

So, Vedith huh?

[Iconeum]

Are you going to share them?

I think you Rooster and Mary Poppins are town.
I think Starwing might be scum
And the rest I don't care if we lynch wrong because they aren't town reads.

Hello \o/

I don't know. Seems slow atm.
Rooster not questioning further on me not voting who I think is Scum is a concern.

Okay I think I'm ready to vote Starwing.
Before so, give me a reason to vote Rooster?

669 Vedith produces townread on Rooster
679 Putting Rooster as a concerning read
700 Trying to shift towards a Rooster vote

And reading Vedith ISO doesn't give me much of a town feeling in any case

[Iconeum]

I'm growing more into a Rooster townread myself based on the recent posting by Rooster. A lot more townie then his first half of ISO.

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Vedith

[rosterfoster]

Vedith doesn’t really give townie feelings when held in this mood.

Draco/URAP - I’m on about a mini and large normal we played. Vedith was town in both and was playing to this mood. I have also seen Vedith play strongly, as in Gators. Since (unless ongoing games) I’ve not seen scum Vedith it’s hard to know whether there’s a clear meta thing. I suspect that Vedith can do both as either alignment so it’s not really AI and he could well be playing like this to pocket me.

Tl;Dr I don’t have a clue, but I don’t think Vedith is readable from his style and it’s not really a reason to push.

[StarwingBeauvoi]

@starwing what do you think about Roster transitioning from frustration to pushing his vedith town read there?

-U2

I didn't exactly think he was frustrated, but pushing the Vedith town read is the towniest thing he's done all day.
There's no scum motivation for it, unless Vedith is partners with him.

The last post is confusing, and I don't know what he says about Vedith there.

Draco asks good questions which is why I initially town read him.