Newbie 1925 - Game Over

[TTTT]

ok that's a decent answer

[TTTT]

actually no
that lolhammer was on page 20
so my question still stands

[zeebu]

the only way to lynch scum is to first get them to L-1
but it's not helpful to end the day this soon

and the only way to mislynch so early is by getting someone to L-1 as well. for the reason asc said below it seems like bad mojo toeing that line when only half the folks have posted at all

I saw that in my last game - town hammered the jailkeeper without declaring intent before they had a chance to claim.

[TheASC]

do you really think town comes in here and lolhammers?

actually no
that lolhammer was on page 20
so my question still stands

I'm not saying it happens often, I'm just saying that it

could

happen and that I'd like to avoid taking that risk if possible, especially so early on.

[JPD]

VOTE: theASC

I'm slightly offended you think anyone could be so stupid.
I kinda wish someone had hammered though. That'd have to be some sort of record and I, for one, would be happy to be in the mafia hall of fame.

[zeebu]

VOTE: theASC

I'm slightly offended you think anyone could be so stupid.
I kinda wish someone had hammered though. That'd have to be some sort of record and I, for one, would be happy to be in the mafia hall of fame.

22.2% chance of fame 77.7% shame

[JPD]

I see what you did there

[TheASC]

VOTE: theASC

I'm slightly offended you think anyone could be so stupid.

I guess playing so many games in real life with people who aren't quite as... formal... has somewhat tainted my perspective of the average player.

I kinda wish someone had hammered though. That'd have to be some sort of record and I, for one, would be happy to be in the mafia hall of fame.

Although this is the kind of reasoning that could've encouraged a newbie townie to hammer. Not saying it's good reasoning, but the fact that you're thinking it implies other people could be too.

22.2% chance of fame 77.7% shame

As a mathsy person myself, I feel the need to point out from any one townie's view (i.e. the townie that goes for the hammer) it would be a 25% chance of fame, as they would not be counted in their own probabilities.

[JPD]

Probably scum if town!Sasha

What's the problem with Sasha getting lynched then? If he flips town then we know who one of the scum is. If not, then we just lynched scum in less than 3 hours. Win, win in my book.

[Arithmancer]

That's for the hypothetical situation in which someone went trigger-happy on Sasha back there, if I'm reading that conversation right. Doing it now after it's been discussed and a vote has been removed would have less obvious meaning, in my opinion.

[TheASC]

Probably scum if town!Sasha

What's the problem with Sasha getting lynched then? If he flips town then we know who one of the scum is. If not, then we just lynched scum in less than 3 hours. Win, win in my book.

I answered this in the following sentence.

Probably scum if town!Sasha, although I have played with people before that just hammer without thought regardless of alignment. Either way, the information gained from interrogating an early hammerer seems a lot worse than what would naturally be gained over the course of a full 240 hour day.

I am starting to see the reason for the early L-1 though. Almost certainly lynching one member of the mafia (Sasha or their hammerer) is incredibly useful in the early stages of the game.

[JPD]

Probably scum if town!Sasha, although I have played with people before that just hammer without thought regardless of alignment. Either way, the information gained from interrogating an early hammerer seems a lot worse than what would naturally be gained over the course of a full 240 hour day.

I don't think you're giving us enough credit and it's probably not a great idea to assume your teammates are idiots without having even spoken to them.

[Micc]

Everyone has confirmed. The deadline for Day 1 is being unpaused.

Votecount 1.01

Sashaddin (3) -

Schiavetto, teacher, TTTT

TheASC (2) -

zeebu, JPD

zeebu (1) -

Sashaddin

Not Voting (3) -

Arithmancer, ZestOfLife, TheASC

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-04-15 17:35:00).

[JPD]

Teacher, any particular reason for going to L-2 within the first hour?

UNVOTE: Sashasden
I don't like where this is going. I'm not a fan of how quickly this has built up so I think it's best to drop down to L-2 at least for now. All it takes is one trigger-happy hammer from the players that haven't yet posted and the day gets cut extraordinarily short.

Interesting that you show wariness with lolhammers and L-X votes. In your last (and only other) game you said the same thing repeatedly.
You were scum in that game.
I'm gonna give that game a full read.

[Schiavetto]

Honestly, have to echo the sentiments of T⁴ and others w/rt the assumption that town would, idk, accidentally trip over, fall into their keyboard, awkwardly landing on the keys "LYNCH SASH" and hammer

Even without browsing previous games, it feels like you're preempting a defensive read there ASC ("Look at me, I'm being cautious of town making a mistake, which makes me town myself!")

There's utility in early-game wagon-building & I'm in no rush to relieve pressure, even if rand. Parking, fam.

[teacher]

ASC, what do you think of Sasha’s silence after the wagon?

@board-general experience levels? If not your first game, give me a little self-meta?

[teacher]

Finally, @zeebu, it is site meta to have an avi as a form of facial/post recognition. If you’re not graphically inclined give me a category and I can search something up.

[Sashaddin]

Also I guess whenever someone mentions Sasha's name it gets slightly altered. Sorry Sasha! This is what I get for not properly reading names. I'm just going to refer to him as Sasha from now on as to not repeat that mistake.

Call me what you want, honey .

[Sashaddin]

ASC, what do you think of Sasha’s silence after the wagon?

I posted at work, then went to the restaurant with my wife and kids.
I just saw that I got to L-1 over a RVS post and it made me go hmmm....

[teacher]

Beetle.

PEdit: fair enough. Hope it was good. Mine are 7 and 5.

[Sashaddin]

VOTE: theASC

I'm slightly offended you think anyone could be so stupid.
I kinda wish someone had hammered though. That'd have to be some sort of record and I, for one, would be happy to be in the mafia hall of fame.

22.2% chance of fame 77.7% shame

This is my kind of posts!
UNVOTE: Zeebu

[Sashaddin]

Sushis, all you can eat.
Mine are 7 yo and 9 months old

[Sashaddin]

Probably scum if town!Sasha

What's the problem with Sasha getting lynched then?

If he flips town then we know who one of the scum is.

If not, then we just lynched scum in less than 3 hours. Win, win in my book.

You've never encountered all-town wagons?

[Sashaddin]

@board-general experience levels? If not your first game, give me a little self-meta?

Was this directed to me?

[teacher]

To the board.