Mini 2079 - Guns & Roses [Game Over]

[FakeGod]

implosion, who was

Mafia

Night 2 Gun

, has

lynched

in

Day 4

.

Town

Win Condition has been achieved. Endgame incoming.

[FakeGod]

"It's a beautiful day outside-

birds are chirping,

flowers are blooming,

in days like these,

kids like you...

...should be burning in hell.

-Sans from

Undertale

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hitogoroshi, popsofctown, xyzzy, Alisae, Something_Smart, Blake Belladonna, Pine, Cephrir, and Kagami, aligned with Town, wins the game!

[FakeGod]

Links will go here.

Dead PT
Scum team, please let me know if you want the Scum PT released.

[Alisae]

yay town wins gg wp had fun playing with everyone on the playerlist

[popsofctown]

FakeGod mod every game I ever play for the rest of my life

[Ankamius]

thank fuck my last blake game was a win

[popsofctown]

Don't blacklist Blake Belladonna her name is kawaii

[popsofctown]

I dumbtelled everyone you gotta townlock me now

I think we should lynch implosion

[geometry]

I was following this

[Ankamius]

btw I was certain I was the designated mislynch for d4 and I was really confused when the day started with both SS and implo scumreading the slot I had locktowned before

[geometry]

I feel like the kind of people who get nightkilled by scum should be the ones picking N1 rose

Scum might expect it, but it's the first time this sort of setup has been played (I think) and I don't really think WIFOM goes that deep

[hitogoroshi]

thank fuck my last blake game was a win

ya done good. you were right today and yesterday you were wrong in a committal way that I was still able to use for game-solving. nice job.

also looking back I found this funny

also some shades of meta here in that this is part of a theory disagreement ceph and I have had across three games now about whether someone having no interaction with the reads of the people THEY town read is suspicious. [it caught wickedjester scum in 17 kilos, but wicked was doing a much stronger variant of it than implo is doing so I can't harass ceph about it too much.] so anyway I think ceph town is actually a pretty strong read.

I think cohesion tell is lookin stronger and stronger the more I look for it. People voting on someone their town reads aren't without trying to sell them, figure out why their TRs don't want their target, etc. seems to be reasonably reliable

[popsofctown]

I had night1 rose and it deflected a nightkill but I rolled 33% n1 rose 33% n2 rose 33% n3 rose. I think skewing that higher towards night one might have been correcter play

[Ankamius]

I feel like the kind of people who get nightkilled by scum should be the ones picking N1 rose

Scum might expect it, but it's the first time this sort of setup has been played (I think) and I don't really think WIFOM goes that deep

I think I'd just always pick n2 rose since I tend to get n2ed if at all

[popsofctown]

still mad at hito for not blindly powersheeping my cyanjet read

[Ankamius]

ya done good. you were right today and yesterday you were wrong in a committal way that I was still able to use for game-solving. nice job.

that's the problem though

I have major confidence problems in lylo, I actually had you locktowned after the LLD flip and I started doubting it after seeing both implo and SS pushing for you immediately

[popsofctown]

thank fuck my last blake game was a win

ya done good. you were right today and yesterday you were wrong in a committal way that I was still able to use for game-solving. nice job.

also looking back I found this funny

also some shades of meta here in that this is part of a theory disagreement ceph and I have had across three games now about whether someone having no interaction with the reads of the people THEY town read is suspicious. [it caught wickedjester scum in 17 kilos, but wicked was doing a much stronger variant of it than implo is doing so I can't harass ceph about it too much.] so anyway I think ceph town is actually a pretty strong read.

I think cohesion tell is lookin stronger and stronger the more I look for it. People voting on someone their town reads aren't without trying to sell them, figure out why their TRs don't want their target, etc. seems to be reasonably reliable

ok did I verbally abuse you enough for not cohering with me on cyanjet-read for you to TR me

[geometry]

If I was scum I would've picked N3 rose I think

[geometry]

Like it seems obvious to choose Gun

But I don't think it is

[geometry]

Or N2 rose

[FakeGod]

Well, one thing I learned from this game is never invite your RL friends to play mafia here. They grew confused and frightened by y'all, and decided to mass-exodus. I am very thankful for those who replaced in (especially to those that had very silly picks like N5 rose).

I ran this exact setup couple times off-site and they both finished in resounding town victories. The game was lot closer here. I think this setup is townsided (with 2v9), but Pine misplayed rather horrendously with his claim in day 2 to even the odds somewhat. I would appreciate it if you guys commented on the balance of the setup, given 2:9, as well for a larger setup.

Thank you all for playing.

[geometry]

I also think without the "0 town rose = loss" mechanic, a lot of people would choose rose anyway.

A bad vigi shot can mess town up, and not allowing scum to NK you with Rose so you can lead town to the right lynch tomorrow is better I think

[Ankamius]

I don't think I can have any particular comments on the setup without being able to see how it functions... 'normally'(?)

it's hard to tell without knowing what people will end up doing since there's plenty of different possible strategies to go with

[geometry]

Hmm

I would say give town more incentive to pick gun and mafia more incentive to pick rose

[Ankamius]

town more incentive to pick gun --> mafia more incentive to pick rose