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[Kirari Momobami]

There's always the thought that I need to consider ofrhz/nom was s/s theater which is why your comment is both good and dumb at the same time.

Saying nom needed to play the long game is one thing, but iirc she was pushing ofrhz somewhat before I started hard pushing her. Additionally ofrhz is slightly outside her comfortable scumrange and I don't think her reaction to the red wagon on day 1 is likely to come from her as scum. So you consider the possibility then evaluate all evidence. If she's scum this game, she's dramatically expanded her scumrange, which is not something that is easy to play around when we have no mech investigatives in the game at all.

For you, there's also your posts about redflavor earlier, which make it easier to reconsider your alignment, and the fact that vork and nero were both posting heavily in cats but have been basically ignoring this game, which if they're both town is annoying.

Since you keep insisting that you and dv die, sure, whatever. But if you're both town then your play right now is super gross.

[Kirari Momobami]

Irt to nom there's two things to know:

She likes big lulzy plays
She plays really wolfy

So yes, bussing ofrhz for two days straight would be a big lulzy play.

But it also means she never advanced a scum agenda at all for two days straight, which doesn't really match my understanding of her play.

If the idea was "ofrhz can't kill me because that would implicate her..." ehhhhh I don't think a traitor without a pt ever plays like that.

So while nom is probably the first person I would think of as being capable of bussing her last group scum as traitor, I still don't actually think that's the play she made this game.

[Kirari Momobami]

VOTE: Nero Cain this has won me a game before so it's worth a shot

but you were scum so you are claiming scum?

Lol this is a really funny post given the talk about 'signaling' on the part of the traitor

Ice cream goddess there's no way hws tries to "signal" he's scum to nero in a way only he would get right?

I’ll try to towncase Nero tonight

This is a prodge

Can I get this before hammer or you ok accepting dv/otter?

[LuckyOtter]

So suddenly my play is super gross? Where's that coming from?

I shouldn't survive tomorrow. I have massive doubts DV is scum but I'm not sure he should survive tomorrow either. So I'm thinking through scenarios and putting thoughts down while I can. If you disagree with them, fine, but it's looking like you're trying to belittle them before I flip, and that is what is pretty gross, actually.

Re: 2976 my point is that their agenda for two days may have been laying the groundwork to win in the endgame. I was clearly part of that strategy but I don't think for a second pocketing me/setting me up as a patsy was the extent of it.

Y'all will still have to reckon with the fact that nom didn't hammer me D4 and insisted on defending me at their own peril

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[Kirari Momobami]

Gross is saying you're ok accepting a vig shot + lynch on you and dv while also arguing there may be more to think of in this game. I am playing to be in a good position to read nero and vork tomorrow if you do both flip green, which I kinda think you might and I can see happening for dv too. It's concerning that the two players spewing are the two that will die which will leave me with vork and nero, neithet of which has said hardly anything today. I wanted those slots to spew more and you two have started shading me because I haven't been done with the day yet.

[Kirari Momobami]

Nero and vork, any thoughts on each other's slots after cats?

[LuckyOtter]

I just disagree that that's gross. What do you want me to do here?

[Kirari Momobami]

Idk, get vork to respond to 2956?

[LuckyOtter]

VOOOOOOOOORK

[Not Known 15]

Nero Cain has been prodded.

[Vorkuta]

You dare summon me?

[Kirari Momobami]

A) respond to 2956

B) why does it seem like you kinda don't care about this game

C) are you feeling good enough about scum being in dv/otter to end day as things stand?

[Vorkuta]

Yeah I read #2956 and it doesn't exactly have things to say for me to respond to tbh

I read how LO got run up yesterday and I thought it was going to flip red so *shrugs*

Um... ?

You're going to blanket vote without any explanation with one day left on the clock?

Idk I liked the past few pages
But fair enough

VOTE: otter
Tbh I have a nagging feeling that this flips green butg wtv

I then changed my mind in a bit.
I'm sorry for not explicitly telling people that my read on him has slightly changed.

-LO got (past tense) townie points for playing the frustrated/dissapointed villager card to get out of the lynch yesterday, but then upon seeing how the new wagon formed I was like

-I'm trying out a new playstyle as in my other games you have the "active people" and the "not so active people".
Anyone that has played literally any other game with me before knows that I easily make it in the top.... 4(?) posters by activity/post count/content and all that stuff.
HOWEVER it's always the case that someone who actively lurks/has less content/is more disengaged ends up like... having an easier time than I do. So I decided that because due to

travels

(IRL stuff) I got behind on my mandatory reading, I might as well try to see what it's like """not caring"""

-sure why not
I suppose it'll be fun to make it to Lylo and have switch gears, but I'm looking forward to a nice and relaxing win with this solve

[DeasVail]

I just don’t really think how Otter has played this day phase comes from scum.

Though also on that note, I feel like I would have played this totally differently as scum too?

I don’t know, I feel like I’m just waiting for someone to get impatient and hammer me and so it’s been hard getting my head into this.

[Gollum]

My day was just busy and time got away from me. Did otter ever give an explanation for what thier first post today meant?

Catch-up thoughts after charge

[Kirari Momobami]

Sure but in trying to solve this game it does mean you are currently cliser to your scum meta than your town meta

@vork

[LuckyOtter]

What do you think otter meant in 2839?

Otter has been saying that he was paranoid of Nom, but didn't think Nom would buddy him after their last game together.

Idk the logic there is a little wonky, but maybe Otter was just feeling like he had been snowed? (again?)

Ofrhz answered for me and I didn't feel compelled to do a 'yeah, what she said.' I also said yesterday:

I've already stated my paranoia on nom. Scum!nom knows how to play me and I just don't think they do it by so brazenly defending me.

If I'm wrong, nom, here is a gentle fuck you in advance


<3<3<3

[Kirari Momobami]

Well down to 21 hours. Ultimately it's kk's shot. I don't feel like reversing course on the solve is much better but I still would have liked to see the developed towncase on Nero particularly given how meh his play has been today. Obviously we don't NL tho. I guess I will intent within 15 hours on DV, maybe sooner if I have some time to reread his iso tonight properly.

[Gollum]

I don't feel like your play has been exactly stellar either. Like currently you are being loud and trying to position yourself as town leader

[ofrhz]

Sup

[Kublai Khan]

Well, I said a while ago. DeasVail today. LuckyOtter tonight.

Beyond that Vorkuta and Nero Cain are next tier of scummyness.

Kiraki Momobami and ofrhz are towniest.

I may be wrong, but nothing posted today has changed my mind. Anyone can hammer whenever they want.

[Vorkuta]

Do I get townie points for hammering?

[Kirari Momobami]

I don't feel like your play has been exactly stellar either. Like currently you are being loud and trying to position yourself as town leader

So I take this to mean you still have 0 thoughts about vork from the game you just finished?

[ofrhz]

Nero what did you think about my point that traitor would probably not bus their groupscum (i.e. Kirari) so close to deadline?

[ofrhz]

VOTE: Nero Cain this has won me a game before so it's worth a shot

but you were scum so you are claiming scum?

Lol this is a really funny post given the talk about 'signaling' on the part of the traitor

Ice cream goddess there's no way hws tries to "signal" he's scum to nero in a way only he would get right?

I’ll try to towncase Nero tonight

This is a prodge

Can I get this before hammer or you ok accepting dv/otter?

I was in the middle of towncasing Nero, but I don't think it's enough to locktown him without doing more research.

I'm ok with DV/otter, but I'm not sure it's a good idea possibly going into lylo without having you and Nero talk more. It'd be pretty bad if you're both town, because Nero has been suspecting you since like late D2.