Grandest Idea Mafia: Game Over!

[Arcfield]

I two interesting roles and that annoying VT

[Arcfield]

I two interesting roles and that annoying VT

Scum picker post.

It's not too late to pick that VT.

I will never pick VT!

[Arcfield]

lol

[Arcfield]

I didn't get any cult, so I'm gonna shitpost.
I also didn't read the thread before taking my role.

:wowee:

Let me clarify that for you then:
I didn't read what anyone posted in thread before taking my role.

oh no I was talking about the first line

Is that so?

[Arcfield]

Gonna admit this, I was hoping for a Pirate or Alien role. Didn't even get a single scum role.

[Arcfield]

Why os everyone partially claiming before we even start?

Why not?

[Arcfield]

VOTE: TemporalLich

[Arcfield]

VOTE: TemporalLich

Can I ask you why you discarded your BP card

Roles without Night Actions (1-Shot Bulletproof + Vanilla Townie) are pretty boring.

[Arcfield]

VOTE: TemporalLich

Can I ask you why you discarded your BP card

Roles without Night Actions (1-Shot Bulletproof + Vanilla Townie) are pretty boring.

You said you had two interesting roles though?

Changed my mind about BP

[Arcfield]

There is a scum!vig

Isn't the scum vig a mafia treestump though?

[Arcfield]

but wait

wait if the mod lied

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN

[Arcfield]

that's tuff

[Arcfield]

It says Nomnom was a Town Honorable Day Vigilante.

what in the fuq is dat

[Arcfield]

VOTE: Gamma

ok

[Arcfield]

VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips

[Arcfield]

yes

[Arcfield]

lmao nice

[Arcfield]

What did he claim (if he did at all)

[Arcfield]

I still think emp is scum

Lol forgot to quote but I was talking to you in the above quote

[Arcfield]

I mean. I’d prefer not to die cos I have a lot to live for ya know? But if I gotta go I gotta go

Yeah I would definitely kill that

[Arcfield]

Can we end the day already? lol

[Arcfield]

ok I haven’t really been doing reads but I think Vijarada is scum

Nice job. You outed the dead treestump mafia day vigilante

[Arcfield]

Anyways someone put him at L-1 so we can get a claim

[Arcfield]

-stitled- oh my whatever do you mean

[Arcfield]

oof rip spelling

[Arcfield]

I'm not scum but I agree

[Arcfield]

fry me

[Arcfield]

I'm confused as to why we went from Emps to me, when the very person we're trying to kill started the vote.

[Arcfield]

holy crap this game is slow

[Arcfield]

Be reminded I claimed my info before I got my alignment. So lynching me to "confirm my role" is pretty damn stupid.

okay let's vote scum then

VOTE: Larry David Official

I think some people wanted a claim from Emp before a lynch.

Is this only for the hammer?

yep

Might as well then...
VOTE: Larry David Official

[Arcfield]

I felt Arcfield was shady D1 and was talked out of it, not today Satan

I'm shady? How so?

[Arcfield]

I felt Arcfield was shady D1 and was talked out of it, not today Satan

I'm shady? How so?

The way you were posting didn't feel organic, I put it as "stilted" before. I think you are having clear trouble faking natural towny thought based on that.

I'll tell you right now, i'm Town. I might seem scummy though, because i'm not very experienced.

[Arcfield]

I felt Arcfield was shady D1 and was talked out of it, not today Satan

I'm shady? How so?

The way you were posting didn't feel organic, I put it as "stilted" before. I think you are having clear trouble faking natural towny thought based on that.

I'll tell you right now, i'm Town. I might seem scummy though, because i'm not very experienced.

Really convincing.

I know right

[Arcfield]

Here's a readlist of people I think:

Town

: Gamma Emerald

Town-lean

: Persivul, Debbie Doggie Do
Meh: Iconeum, everyone not listed

Scum-lean

: chennisden, Chemist1422

Scum

: Larry David Official, Arcfield

Gamma is somewhat likely town due to the Arcfield scumcase, on top of having a good ISO

Persivul has a good case in 528, and some other posts maybe

Giving 3D some town points for asking Emp to claim in 456, and the ISO being meh-townish

Icon seems towny from an ISO skim, but the chen push is just weird

chenn trying to push me as scum without much reason is sketchy...

Chemist1422 doesn't seem to be efforting and 434 makes this blindingly obvious

LDO debatably quickhammered town and claimed town at the start

Arcfield's ISO looks like scum not doing much but trying to get easy votes. Voting here now.

VOTE: Arcfield

I generally don't have much to say. I'm just trying to learn how you people think so I can be a better player.

[Arcfield]

That doesn’t seem to match up with how confident you were when dismissing my point

I was pretty sure it was scum motivated so that's why

“Chemist isn’t town”
“I have stronger scumreads than Chemist”

Do you see the difference

Yeah, it means arcfield isn't town either

Why does this make me scum

[Arcfield]

I'm not scum, and like I said before, I usually don't end up posting when I have nothing to say. I'll try to be more active, but i'm not gonna have much to say and will probably end up just shitposting.

[Arcfield]

Chennis seems a bit suspicious from my point of view, but I don't really have any evidence, nor does my role allow me to gather it.

[Arcfield]

I actually don't know. Just seemed like something I should have said.

[Arcfield]

Indeed.

[Arcfield]

If I townread gamma and Lich is scum, doesn't that mean Gamma is scum?

But I thought we established Gamma was Town.

Or maybe i'm just not reading right

[Arcfield]

Alright, I should probably join the majority vote. Don't even know why I haven't done so yet.


VOTE: TL

[Arcfield]

Should I claim even if my role sucks?

Oh heyo fellow wolves

Yeah, you should claim.

I would reccomend that, yes.

[Arcfield]

Most of your case is "gut" with wishy-washy language about how you think a townie should play v how Arc is playing. Your strongest point, that he seems coached, relies heavily on who their teammates might be. But, again, that's almost entirely baseless as well. I could throw the "you're stupid" thing right back at you for it but I respect general rule 1a my dude.

pedit: fucking what

pedit 2: Yo Arc, give us reads.

Mafia Treestump = prime coaching chance. Your only power is to talk, of course you're gonna fucking use it.

Honestly forgot Vij was in the game

But Arc doesn't

play

coached right now. I still think they're scum, though.

It's not an active coaching, but the shift I saw between D1 and D2 give me a sense he got lectured during the night phase.

My "lecturing" actually came from you guys during D1. I was reading it over and figured "I should probably try more."
That probably sounds like shit, but it's the straight truth.

[Arcfield]

Most of your case is "gut" with wishy-washy language about how you think a townie should play v how Arc is playing. Your strongest point, that he seems coached, relies heavily on who their teammates might be. But, again, that's almost entirely baseless as well. I could throw the "you're stupid" thing right back at you for it but I respect general rule 1a my dude.

pedit: fucking what

pedit 2: Yo Arc, give us reads.

Mafia Treestump = prime coaching chance. Your only power is to talk, of course you're gonna fucking use it.

Honestly forgot Vij was in the game

But Arc doesn't

play

coached right now. I still think they're scum, though.

It's not an active coaching, but the shift I saw between D1 and D2 give me a sense he got lectured during the night phase.

My "lecturing" actually came from you guys during D1. I was reading it over and figured "I should probably try more."
That probably sounds like shit, but it's the straight truth.

And yet you haven't put in an extra ounce of effort as I see it. I call BS

Denied.

[Arcfield]

Okay Arcfield

Reads?

I don't have much, and they probably don't make sense since i'm not good at this (

why

am I even trying?) But:

Persivul is kinda quiet, don't know what to say about that.
geometry is town, pretty solid claim and the activity is undeniable.
Coldhearted is kind of leaning toward scum, arguement with Gamma going off of gut doesn't make any sense to me considering how good his case on me (despite it being wrong) is.

lol, I know these are absolute garbage but give me a break. I've never really had to make any big-time posts so excuse me.

[Arcfield]

Like, I honestly don't know what to say here.

[Arcfield]

Gamma is pretty obviously Town. His case on me makes a lot of sense (again, it's still wrong) and he seems pretty Towny. The people opposing him (Coldhearted, etc) seem extremely scummy.

[Arcfield]

What's worse is that the people off the wagon are largely inactive.

This is precisely why Persivul is scum-lean according to me.

[Arcfield]

If TL flips Town, i'm looking at Iconeum.

[Arcfield]

Also

One of my scumreads is on the TL wagon and one of my leans is on the TL wagon

Would you mind elaborating?
If you already have, just link the post number

[Arcfield]

Arcfield, I want answers.

Original post: Post 866

This isn't gonna be one-sided me casing you as scum

This is gonna be me asking you questions and giving you a chance to defend yourself.

If you're town then I'll figure that out.

If you're scum this will out your scumbuddies.

Gonna admit this, I was hoping for a Pirate or Alien role. Didn't even get a single scum role.

Of course Newbies want scum. And as a Newbie, I'd pick scum.

Whats wrong with this one?

VOTE: TemporalLich

TMI vote. If you're as lost as you claim, how did you find scum so quick? And why did you never push this harder?

I didn't know he was scum, I was just half-assing here since the game wasn't really heating up yet.

There is a scum!vig

Isn't the scum vig a mafia treestump though?

Thank you for the fluff

but wait

wait if the mod lied

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN

Thank you for the fluff

VOTE: Gamma

ok

ok

VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips

nice way to jump on the mislynch

i noticed this was a mislynch before i even bothered PLAYING the game (had a newbie to win and an open to win)

Okay, that's you but not me. I was lynching him for the same reason as everyone else, he voted someone and then asked why.

i think you would've too if you were actually town

I mean. I’d prefer not to die cos I have a lot to live for ya know? But if I gotta go I gotta go

Yeah I would definitely kill that

tmi

How?

I'm confused as to why we went from Emps to me, when the very person we're trying to kill started the vote.

Maybe because you look worse in that 1v1? I dunno. Nice way to fester paranoia? This doesn't help as town

Alright fine. I was pointing out my confusion there. They're trying to kill him, but vote me?

Be reminded I claimed my info before I got my alignment. So lynching me to "confirm my role" is pretty damn stupid.

okay let's vote scum then

VOTE: Larry David Official

I think some people wanted a claim from Emp before a lynch.

Is this only for the hammer?

yep

Might as well then...
VOTE: Larry David Official

Why are you so eager to jump onto easy lynches? (If cold is town you are basically confirmed scum.) Like earlier, I was just half-assing the game.

Also

TL, who you presumably are scumreading, is (a) part of the wagon (b) got told his vote is bad by the only town that cares, and (c) doesn't care that his vote is bad.

Why did you hop on the wagon?

I thought he was scum. What's wrong with that?

Chennis seems a bit suspicious from my point of view, but I don't really have any evidence, nor does my role allow me to gather it.

The role thing is really, really disgusting and is a terrible soft. I won't blame you for the read though because I wasn't doing the game due diligence or effort. Like, from my point of view, you are trying to push what was an easy lynch back then, but I'll excuse it because (1) I deserved to be scumread and held accountable for my inactivity/laziness and (2) there's much more damning stuff in your ISO.

I actually don't know. Just seemed like something I should have said.

Town does town stuff

Scum tries to seem town

Alright, I should probably join the majority vote. Don't even know why I haven't done so yet.

VOTE: TL

This to me is just an admission of "I'm not voting to kill scum, I'm voting the popular guy" even though you should have a scumread on him...?

That is completely wrong. I thought he was scum, he had a couple votes, so why shouldn't I vote?

Okay Arcfield

Reads?

I don't have much, and they probably don't make sense since i'm not good at this (

why

am I even trying?) But:

Persivul is kinda quiet, don't know what to say about that.
geometry is town, pretty solid claim and the activity is undeniable.
Coldhearted is kind of leaning toward scum, arguement with Gamma going off of gut doesn't make any sense to me considering how good his case on me (despite it being wrong) is.

lol, I know these are absolute garbage but give me a break. I've never really had to make any big-time posts so excuse me.

"My reads are terrible" - said person who doesn't want to be held accountable for said reads

I thought they were bad...?

"I'm going to shade a slot by stating the obvious but not express a read on it" - said person who doesn't want to be held accountable for said shading

I'm not even that experienced in TR-ing and SR-ing.

(By the way, Persivul is on V/LA, which explains his quietness.)

Gamma is pretty obviously Town. His case on me makes a lot of sense (again, it's still wrong) and he seems pretty Towny. The people opposing him (Coldhearted, etc) seem extremely scummy.

From your point of view.

Someone is using (or abusing) their towncredit to mislynch a lynchbaity townie. Why is your reaction

GAMMA IS TOWN!

(he's wrong please don't hurt me)

rather than

YOU'RE WRONG

(i think he's town though)?

Because I was (at first) afraid I would get killed immediately for contesting him, which would have been really bad for most of the PRs here.

Like, you seem more concerned about buddying town (which carries little accountability) instead of contesting his read (which could spew your buddies).

Must I do this again...?

yeah okay sorry I was gone for a while and forgot to put V/LA
And since i'm at L-1, i'm gonna reveal my role.

Town Complex Doctor.

[Arcfield]

Arcfield, I want answers.

Original post: Post 866

This isn't gonna be one-sided me casing you as scum

This is gonna be me asking you questions and giving you a chance to defend yourself.

If you're town then I'll figure that out.

If you're scum this will out your scumbuddies.

Gonna admit this, I was hoping for a Pirate or Alien role. Didn't even get a single scum role.

Of course Newbies want scum. And as a Newbie, I'd pick scum.

Whats wrong with this one?

VOTE: TemporalLich

TMI vote. If you're as lost as you claim, how did you find scum so quick? And why did you never push this harder?

I didn't know he was scum, I was just half-assing here since the game wasn't really heating up yet.

There is a scum!vig

Isn't the scum vig a mafia treestump though?

Thank you for the fluff

but wait

wait if the mod lied

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN

Thank you for the fluff

VOTE: Gamma

ok

ok

VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips

nice way to jump on the mislynch

i noticed this was a mislynch before i even bothered PLAYING the game (had a newbie to win and an open to win)

Okay, that's you but not me. I was lynching him for the same reason as everyone else, he voted someone and then asked why.

i think you would've too if you were actually town

I mean. I’d prefer not to die cos I have a lot to live for ya know? But if I gotta go I gotta go

Yeah I would definitely kill that

tmi

How?

I'm confused as to why we went from Emps to me, when the very person we're trying to kill started the vote.

Maybe because you look worse in that 1v1? I dunno. Nice way to fester paranoia? This doesn't help as town

Alright fine. I was pointing out my confusion there. They're trying to kill him, but vote me?

Be reminded I claimed my info before I got my alignment. So lynching me to "confirm my role" is pretty damn stupid.

okay let's vote scum then

VOTE: Larry David Official

I think some people wanted a claim from Emp before a lynch.

Is this only for the hammer?

yep

Might as well then...
VOTE: Larry David Official

Why are you so eager to jump onto easy lynches? (If cold is town you are basically confirmed scum.) Like earlier, I was just half-assing the game.

Also

TL, who you presumably are scumreading, is (a) part of the wagon (b) got told his vote is bad by the only town that cares, and (c) doesn't care that his vote is bad.

Why did you hop on the wagon?

I thought he was scum. What's wrong with that?

Chennis seems a bit suspicious from my point of view, but I don't really have any evidence, nor does my role allow me to gather it.

The role thing is really, really disgusting and is a terrible soft. I won't blame you for the read though because I wasn't doing the game due diligence or effort. Like, from my point of view, you are trying to push what was an easy lynch back then, but I'll excuse it because (1) I deserved to be scumread and held accountable for my inactivity/laziness and (2) there's much more damning stuff in your ISO.

I actually don't know. Just seemed like something I should have said.

Town does town stuff

Scum tries to seem town

Alright, I should probably join the majority vote. Don't even know why I haven't done so yet.

VOTE: TL

This to me is just an admission of "I'm not voting to kill scum, I'm voting the popular guy" even though you should have a scumread on him...?

That is completely wrong. I thought he was scum, he had a couple votes, so why shouldn't I vote?

Okay Arcfield

Reads?

I don't have much, and they probably don't make sense since i'm not good at this (

why

am I even trying?) But:

Persivul is kinda quiet, don't know what to say about that.
geometry is town, pretty solid claim and the activity is undeniable.
Coldhearted is kind of leaning toward scum, arguement with Gamma going off of gut doesn't make any sense to me considering how good his case on me (despite it being wrong) is.

lol, I know these are absolute garbage but give me a break. I've never really had to make any big-time posts so excuse me.

"My reads are terrible" - said person who doesn't want to be held accountable for said reads

I thought they were bad...?

"I'm going to shade a slot by stating the obvious but not express a read on it" - said person who doesn't want to be held accountable for said shading

I'm not even that experienced in TR-ing and SR-ing.

(By the way, Persivul is on V/LA, which explains his quietness.)

Gamma is pretty obviously Town. His case on me makes a lot of sense (again, it's still wrong) and he seems pretty Towny. The people opposing him (Coldhearted, etc) seem extremely scummy.

From your point of view.

Someone is using (or abusing) their towncredit to mislynch a lynchbaity townie. Why is your reaction

GAMMA IS TOWN!

(he's wrong please don't hurt me)

rather than

YOU'RE WRONG

(i think he's town though)?

Because I was (at first) afraid I would get killed immediately for contesting him, which would have been really bad for most of the PRs here.

Like, you seem more concerned about buddying town (which carries little accountability) instead of contesting his read (which could spew your buddies).

Must I do this again...?

yeah okay sorry I was gone for a while and forgot to put V/LA
And since i'm at L-1, i'm gonna reveal my role.

Town Complex Doctor.

[Arcfield]

lol it double posted again

[Arcfield]

Temporal, but because I wasn't paying attention.

[Arcfield]

Also, I answered them as honestly and as best as I could. What the fuck more do you want from me?

[Arcfield]

Which also means TL is town so things are really getting interesting now.

Now that I think about it, why didn't I point this out before? I could have cleared both of us.

Sorry about that waste of posts, reads and arguing.

[Arcfield]

@mod V/LA for two days, I got a surprise vacation lol