Open 761: Grey Flag Nightless - [It's over!]

[Shoshin]

Can you please stop treating me this way, RC? You know for a fact my alignment will be obvious by D2. There's literally no point to this except making me not enjoy the game.

[Shoshin]

If I were scum, I probably wouldn't have confirmed my PM. Given how long this game took to start, I would have felt justified in doing so.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't agree that your alignment will be obvious by D2 necessarily and I think that there is a very high chance that I'm not alive to determine that on D2.
The best that I can do is leave a lynch order for everyone, most likely.

The vote on you was a reaction test and my push on you was played up but I really do want to figure out your alignment, and I'm not content just sitting and waiting til D2 for it.

[Ircher]

Y'all realize that grey flag lacks night kills except when scum are lynched?

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't actually have a read on you, scum or otherwise. I do intend to fix that and I won't be content with you saying to wait to D2.

[Shoshin]

My alignment will be obvious because it's town. It's only non-obvious when scum.

[Ircher]

Now knowing Radiant, there's a decent chance we do indeed lynch scum day 1 (and he ends up being vengekilled), but we don't know that for sure.

[Shoshin]

If you push my lynch, I will know you're scum & will make sure you get lynched after me. That's all I have to say on the matter.

[RadiantCowbells]

That's an entirely empty threat and not conducive to positive relations here.

[Shoshin]

I'd like to know your "strong scumread" from earlier because that's a good place for us to begin discussing things that are actually AI for us. Talking about whether I'm scum is really boring, and when I say boring, what I mean is not AI.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am still unwilling to out it, even if the consequence is us not having something to talk about.

[Bitmap]

What makes Buj's post scummy, Bit?

Feels a bit appeasy. It's not really that scummy but it doesn't seem like something town would say if that makes sense.

[RadiantCowbells]

You don't have to townspew literally today but I'm not letting you go to D2 without a confident townread on you
In exchange, if we get to a point where I know you're town and the reverse isn't true, you can leash my vote and [if i'm scum] force me to double bus to a lose.

[Bitmap]

VOTE: Sloshin

Might as well make my vote useful.

[RadiantCowbells]

that's not a useful vote and i'd prefer no one even place votes, thanks.

[Bitmap]

that's not a useful vote and i'd prefer no one even place votes, thanks.

Elaborate.

[RadiantCowbells]

votes don't do anything if no one is getting lynched, and we don't want to be lynching people for a very long time from here.

[RadiantCowbells]

and i've had enough stupid quickhammers to last a lifetime.

[Bitmap]

votes don't do anything if no one is getting lynched, and we don't want to be lynching people for a very long time from here.

Aren't votes useful to pressure for reactions?

[Shoshin]

I think today will go much better, RC, if you assume I'm town for the purpose of scumhunting together, at least in these early parts of the day.

[RadiantCowbells]

words are threatening enough on their own.

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay, sure.

I vaguely townlean Bitmap right now. How about you?

[Shoshin]

and i've had enough stupid quickhammers to last a lifetime.

I share this sentiment. Did you see the game where I was quickhammered as town on page 4?

[RadiantCowbells]

Yes.

I also was in the mini normal where I powerlynched TW scum on D1 and had what was essentially autowin with the quality of the surviving players but then CJ quickhammered Volxen before they could obvtown.

We still won, but.

[Shoshin]

Okay, sure.

I vaguely townlean Bitmap right now. How about you?

Maybe town, maybe. I think they're buddying you if scum.

What's your read on Ircher?