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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:15 pm

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but seriously;

if i was scum that needed to get into the well of fears to win
i would never claim third party here

if i was the third party role that i made up and needed the blue key to advance my wincon
i would never claim third party here


u've seen first hand that i can have some pretty ?? logic so why is it so hard for you to believe that i'd claim 3rd party to help me survive as an investigative role? if i was rlly playing towards that 3rd party win con why would i ever crumb my first result when i wouldnt need to help town in the slightest as 3rd party? lying to avoid scum kills is not bad play so im kind of just tilted at everyone just ignoring me
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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:16 pm

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In post 1374, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1364, Skygazer wrote:okee he true claimed; forgot about his event-avoidance thing and was like !! but it's all there
including the name
Wait. Be very extremely specific. What do you mean "including the name"?
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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:17 pm

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so, the name of his role name, his ability names, their descriptions, etc etc
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:20 pm

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matches up exactly with hebi's description
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:23 pm

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In post 1375, Skygazer wrote:if i was scum that needed to get into the well of fears to win i would never claim third party here
you can't really make that argument when you've changed your claim though
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:37 pm

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In post 1379, kuribo wrote:
In post 1375, Skygazer wrote:if i was scum that needed to get into the well of fears to win i would never claim third party here
you can't really make that argument when you've changed your claim though
look at the situation im in right now tho

why would i ever do this to myself as scum? in what world would any potential teammates out of everyone in this game be like "ok yeah go ahead, you can do that, sounds like a solid scum play." there's absolutely no sane reason i'd do that unless i simply wanted to survive and avoid the night kill.
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:38 pm

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In post 1380, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1379, kuribo wrote:
In post 1375, Skygazer wrote:if i was scum that needed to get into the well of fears to win i would never claim third party here
you can't really make that argument when you've changed your claim though
look at the situation im in right now tho

why would i ever do this to myself as scum? in what world would any potential teammates out of everyone in this game be like "ok yeah go ahead, you can do that, sounds like a solid scum play." there's absolutely no sane reason i'd do that unless i simply wanted to survive and avoid the night kill.
why would you have claimed third party as town, there's absolutely no sane reason to have done so


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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:41 pm

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i think surviving to hold on to my investigations is a saner reason and much more likely than any world that involves me going "hey scum buddies im going to claim third party because ???" and them going "yeah sounds great skyg definitely a tactically sound plan!"
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:44 pm

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lots of cops hold on to investigations without claiming third party day after day
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:48 pm

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lots of scum play to get townread without claiming third party day after day
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:49 pm

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Skygazer, you decided to sit out playing the game for... honestly, most of it. In order to do nothing. By the time you claimed 3rd Party, Gamma Emerald had already been shot, you unclaimed before scum got another shot. So your idea that you were "dodging a kill" is literally nonsensical, since at no point during the time you were claiming third party did scum have a kill available.

You then brought back your investigative result which was "Implosion's role looks really scummy. That means he's probably town!" You are now offended we are not listening to you, not paying attention to you, and do not give two fucks about your stupid shenanigans. What we can say is that
at best
you have poor judgment, at worst you're actively trying to deceive us. Neither is a strong incentive to give a fuck. That's what happens when instead of playing the game, you dropped a drama bomb. Town, scum, third party, whatever, you done fucked up. I don't know if this is a scum gambit, derptown, some third party nonsense shenanigans, and frankly I don't care. None of this is fucking useful

You lynch all liars, because there's one faction that's thinking "what lies will get me best through this game". They select lies that they think will give them the highest odds of survival and the highest odds of winning. You claimed third party when there was significant pressure on you to do something. Now you've unclaimed it, begged for a key, and presented us with this useless pile of WIFOM.

You're not getting a key. You are dying. If you really are town, you can go make yourself useful before you die. If you're scum, you can keep whining about it. Neither will do shit to change the outcome that you yourself have set in stone.
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:51 pm

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In post 1238, Not Known 15 wrote:No.
Scum+third party either outnumbers town and town has practically lost...
or town still outnumbers everyone else and we get rid of potentially dangerous third parties like you. Who also could be scum, but are NOT town, and that means the town to not town ratio won't decrease.


hmmmm NK15 + Sky as scumbuddies makes sense if you remember NK15 wanting to "lynch third parties" and then "but not Skygazer"
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:54 pm

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So scum skygazer claimed to try and save town implosion?

Hah, no, that didn't happen. If Sky is scum, guess who the buddy is.
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:56 pm

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In post 774, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 750, TemporalLich wrote:okay I've not played with Pine before so I thought he was being deathtunneled.

If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him. Pine already was being scummy but the deathtunnel was off-putting.
In post 762, TemporalLich wrote:My chips are on town!Pine
Caught. There is no way this is town.


hmmmmm NK15 you seemed pretty sure TL was scum... but then you later said:
In post 1188, Not Known 15 wrote:Here's the probem.

THREE claimed non-town.
At least TWO scum(otherwise it wouldn't be a scumteam)

means FIVE antitown.
At least one person needs to be banished.(and one will by scum)
The game is supposed to be reasonably balanced.
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And don't let anything happen to skygazer while we're at it

Two of these horsemen are not town; and have strangely related wincons.

We can only hope that TL or Pine were scum, or Gamma third party.

Because the two others are very likely the scumteam.

Which means->
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So.... you think you helped lynch scum... but you still think town is outnumbered? Or at least "will be soon?"
In post 393, Not Known 15 wrote:Based on the things Pine said after being hammered they are probably third party.

But wait, you don't seem to think Pine was town either.

This is what we call "cognitive dissonance." You need to pretend that you're making righteous lynches, especially in no-reveal, to hide your numbers. But you done fucked up, because you gotta keep it CONSISTENT. So you've spent the last several dozen pages falling back on LeTs lYnCh ThIrD pArTiEs
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:56 pm

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In post 1387, GreyICE wrote:So scum skygazer claimed to try and save town implosion?

Hah, no, that didn't happen. If Sky is scum, guess who the buddy is.
Sky + NK15 + implosion

EZ PZ
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:57 pm

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I wanna know how the hell NK15 goes from "We're lynching obvscum" and "we lynched a third party" to "THERE'S A TON OF SCUM AND THIRD PARTIES LEFT"
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:08 pm

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In post 1373, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1361, Alisae wrote:I think judging by my own role tho, I think the person who is meant to look bad is 100% me
Would you believe that your claim of being a Miller before more than two other people posted looks better than the claimed third party/town bulletproof cop/pick order cop/rolecop/JOAT claim?
I honestly don't mind it atm
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:23 pm

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In post 1380, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1379, kuribo wrote:
In post 1375, Skygazer wrote:if i was scum that needed to get into the well of fears to win i would never claim third party here
you can't really make that argument when you've changed your claim though
look at the situation im in right now tho

why would i ever do this to myself as scum? in what world would any potential teammates out of everyone in this game be like "ok yeah go ahead, you can do that, sounds like a solid scum play." there's absolutely no sane reason i'd do that unless i simply wanted to survive and avoid the night kill.
like
if I had what skygazer had, this mentality is something I would be extremely worried about all of the time.
I'm like this when I'm doc because ik no one else is gonna save me.
So I really don't have a problem with it.
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:33 pm

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In post 1389, kuribo wrote:
In post 1387, GreyICE wrote:So scum skygazer claimed to try and save town implosion?

Hah, no, that didn't happen. If Sky is scum, guess who the buddy is.
Sky + NK15 + implosion

EZ PZ
Cool so help me with Implosion. He’s not one of your horsemen, you’ve claimed third party, let’s do this.
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:54 pm

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In post 1388, kuribo wrote:
In post 774, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 750, TemporalLich wrote:okay I've not played with Pine before so I thought he was being deathtunneled.

If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him. Pine already was being scummy but the deathtunnel was off-putting.
In post 762, TemporalLich wrote:My chips are on town!Pine
Caught. There is no way this is town.


hmmmmm NK15 you seemed pretty sure TL was scum... but then you later said:
In post 1188, Not Known 15 wrote:Here's the probem.

THREE claimed non-town.
At least TWO scum(otherwise it wouldn't be a scumteam)

means FIVE antitown.
At least one person needs to be banished.(and one will by scum)
The game is supposed to be reasonably balanced.
In post 890, kuribo wrote:
And don't let anything happen to skygazer while we're at it

Two of these horsemen are not town; and have strangely related wincons.

We can only hope that TL or Pine were scum, or Gamma third party.

Because the two others are very likely the scumteam.

Which means->
VOTE: GreyICE
So.... you think you helped lynch scum... but you still think town is outnumbered? Or at least "will be soon?"
In post 393, Not Known 15 wrote:Based on the things Pine said after being hammered they are probably third party.

But wait, you don't seem to think Pine was town either.

This is what we call "cognitive dissonance." You need to pretend that you're making righteous lynches, especially in no-reveal, to hide your numbers. But you done fucked up, because you gotta keep it CONSISTENT. So you've spent the last several dozen pages falling back on LeTs lYnCh ThIrD pArTiEs
Yes, will be soon. If there is 5 not town in the game, and we got rid of one scum, then we STILL have a slim town majority.
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:56 pm

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Even getting rid of TWO non town means we have 7vs3 if the game started with 5 nontown.
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:39 am

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HEY ALISAE
YOURE NOT WRONG ABOUT BEING WARY ABOUT MY PENCHANT FOR PICKING SCUM
IM ALSO AT A POINT OF HAPPY RETIREMENT FROM MS WHERE I SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE TIME REQUIRED TO PLAY SCUM AGAINST THIS PLAYERLIST, WHERE TWO OF MY FAVORITE PLAYERS PREFER TOWN. PLUS MY ALIGNMENT PREFERENCES ALWAYS HEAVILY DEPENDED ON THE PLAYERLISTS TO BEGIN WITH (EG. TOWN FOR DRAMONIC GAMES)

IMP IS A FUCKING CHEEKY SCUMFUCK WHO NEEDS ROPE
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:40 am

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I ALSO HAVE AN ALIGNMENT COP GUILTY ON IMPLOSION FOR WHAT ITS WORTH
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BEFORE SOMEONE ASKS BECAUSE ITS INEVITABLE

THERES A SPECIFIC CONDITION WHICH WAS MET THAT UNLOCKED THE COP SHOT

IM NOT CLAIMING WHAT IT IS TODAY AS ILL BE SHOT THE MOMENT I CLAIM
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:45 am

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VOTE: Implosion
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