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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:53 pm

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In post 722, chennisden wrote:like, perhaps the plan was adorable deepwolves and presumably volxen maybe flips and like that's an avenue to push me, or to get me off balance at least.
Is volxen's scumgame that bad? I seriously doubt a volxen/Adorable team would count on Adorable to deepwolf.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:57 pm

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I don't know how good volxen's scumgame is now since the last few times I've read his scumgames he was hydraing (Starcraft, Chain of Command)

however yes this could be a legitimate strategy to let the weaker member deepwolf. i've seen it happen before (newbie 1935 reroll) and the "weaker member" turned out to play a very strong scumgame
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:58 pm

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s_S about where are you at
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:59 pm

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I don't really think that I'd be capable of townreading Adorable confidently enough to vote somewhere else.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:01 pm

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and do you have any thoughts in particular on adorable's recent posting
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:29 pm

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Town are supposed to defend themselves and I have had players telling me why did I not defend myself when I got lynched and ever since then I started to defend myself.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:34 pm

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They were victim blaming. Mislynches are almost never the fault of the player who was mislynched.

Defending yourself is rarely necessary, and when it is, it's best done in the form of specific arguments and references to prove that a particular behavior is not indicative of alignment for you. Not whatever you were doing.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:35 pm

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Don't agree that mislynches aren't the fault of the player mislynched but I agree with the rest
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:39 pm

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agreed that people who say "omg this was all ur fault" are just looking to blame someone else tbh.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:52 pm

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I still find this convenient how Elements post on day 2 looked like he was fishing for the pr and then Oversoul fake claims afterwards. On day 4 Oversoul wanted to spare himself but I refused to spare him because I did not town read him and it looked like he gave up on trying to spare himself and he ended up sparing me to make me look like his scum buddy so that I could get mislynched when it's just the spare players alive and on the spare chat Chemist was saying why was Oversoul asking about a double lynch and that was suspicious because it looked like Oversoul could be scum who wanted to make sure there was only 1 lynch and not 2 lynch. It looked like me getting spared was a setup.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:55 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:55 pm

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He could just ask in scumchat if there is a double lynch though
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:04 pm

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In post 734, Adorable wrote:I still find this convenient how Elements post on day 2 looked like he was fishing for the pr and then Oversoul fake claims afterwards. On day 4 Oversoul wanted to spare himself but I refused to spare him because I did not town read him and it looked like he gave up on trying to spare himself and he ended up sparing me to make me look like his scum buddy so that I could get mislynched when it's just the spare players alive and on the spare chat Chemist was saying why was Oversoul asking about a double lynch and that was suspicious because it looked like Oversoul could be scum who wanted to make sure there was only 1 lynch and not 2 lynch. It looked like me getting spared was a setup.
this feels like an "o fuck i cant push chennis" moment

this is also very narratey


however this feels genuine at the very least?
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:05 pm

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For example here your posts feel more analytical whereas in this game your posts feel narratey
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:06 pm

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the "pr fishing" point is good but like

man

why not have literally anyone else do it
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:06 pm

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his scum partner who was not deepwolf should've done the fishing

i dont think he was like, "yes i am consciously going to pr fish"
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:06 pm

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In post 734, Adorable wrote:I still find this convenient how Elements post on day 2 looked like he was fishing for the pr and then Oversoul fake claims afterwards. On day 4 Oversoul wanted to spare himself but I refused to spare him because I did not town read him and it looked like he gave up on trying to spare himself and he ended up sparing me to make me look like his scum buddy so that I could get mislynched when it's just the spare players alive
Surely in this scenario I propose an adorable/OS scum team? How does OS' last post fit in here?
On the spare chat Chemist was saying why was Oversoul asking about a double lynch and that was suspicious because it looked like Oversoul could be scum who wanted to make sure there was only 1 lynch and not 2 lynch. It looked like me getting spared was a setup.
I don't understand this bit.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:16 pm

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In post 211, Chemist1422 wrote:What do y’all think about Over thinking there would be two lynches?
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:16 pm

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this game is harder than i gave it credit for
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:07 pm

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I've already explained on #734 why I suspect Elements/Oversoul as the scum team and now moving onto DEB who is also a suspect.

#155 DEB said he's okay sparing chennis.
#156 he said much more so than Elements.
Notice how no one town read Elements at the time except for OS who town read him on the first page.
#162 Elements responds back to DEB saying "Do you not like be DEB?"
#164 All DEB says is idk rn.
#169 Elements votes chennis
#566 DEB hammers Elements
#580 I don't like this response DEB gave to SS and it looked like he knew something about the killing.

The interaction between Elements and DEB looked like scum buddies talking to each other.

I can see Elements/OS and Elements/DEB. OS and DEB were not getting town read and it looked like they didn't stand a chance on getting spared so the only way for Elements/OS or Elements/DEB to win is for scum Elements to try to get me lynched when it's just the spared players alive. Elements post I quoted earlier looked like he was fishing for the pr which was suspicious.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:24 pm

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In post 744, Adorable wrote:I've already explained on #734 why I suspect Elements/Oversoul as the scum team and now moving onto DEB who is also a suspect.

#155 DEB said he's okay sparing chennis.
#156 he said much more so than Elements.
Notice how no one town read Elements at the time except for OS who town read him on the first page.
Chennis is also town reading me at this point
#162 Elements responds back to DEB saying "Do you not like be DEB?"
#164 All DEB says is idk rn.
#169 Elements votes chennis
What does me voting chennis have to do with anything?
#566 DEB hammers Elements
Surely DEB as my scum partner doesn't hammer me and waits for volxen to do thus not drawing unwanted attention.
#580 I don't like this response DEB gave to SS and it looked like he knew something about the killing.

The interaction between Elements and DEB looked like scum buddies talking to each other.

I can see Elements/OS and Elements/DEB. OS and DEB were not getting town read and it looked like they didn't stand a chance on getting spared so the only way for Elements/OS or Elements/DEB to win is for scum Elements to try to get me lynched when it's just the spared players alive.
By our interactions you mean 156, 162, 164. Any others?
Elements post I quoted earlier looked like he was fishing for the pr which was suspicious.
How many times are you going to say this?
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:14 am

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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:55 am

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I just have to check oversoul elements and make sure thats not a thing.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:57 am

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Nah it doesnt seem like a thjng.
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:03 am

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Why do you stop seeing me as possible scum when I unvote you, Adorable?
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