Large Normal 223 | New Beginnings | GAME OVER

[Rick Dalton]

Rick Dalton is 3 for 3, 100% win rate, 2 scum, 1 town. The town game went to 3p lylo with me in it too. Idk what it is, but my Rick Dalton persona hits right, I guess

[Hopkirk]

wanted to lynch aaron today. I would have found you beign alive suspect tomorrow but alas we never got there. But that was big red hearing. Wanted a few days to make the final choice between garmr and titus.

I knew aaron was scum for sure

Any towny shoudl have waited for my choice as I am confirmed town and thus no lynch would go through with out me.

So glad this game is over

I'm glad Hectic didn't wait to vote. We'd have just wasted another 3 weeks before losing.

[bob3141]

if you did no kill then you would have lost. And should lose if you killed me.

No kill means-why woudl scum target me, no they wouldnt = rick is scum.
me dead = rick is scum as any town doc would be on me.

So my vote woudl be rigth place but you still prob get mislynch

[Rick Dalton]

if you did no kill then you would have lost. And should lose if you killed me.

No kill means-why woudl scum target me, no they wouldnt = rick is scum.
me dead = rick is scum as any town doc would be on me.

So my vote woudl be rigth place but you still prob get mislynch

I had my non consecutive modifier to fall back on to avoid that, and I had my out with Garmr.

We were also perpetually in a situation where only 1 townie needed to misvote the entire game for us to take the win.

You saw me on Pretentious, you know it doesn’t matter if I’m obv scum of you can’t get me lynched.

[Rick Dalton]

I think we played well as a team this game. Gobb too, i just didn’t realize he was scum and fear killed him. I actively brought up wanting to kill him to the others.

I said early on i always kill my scum traitors in the pt

[bob3141]

I never believed teh non consec though. But alas i wouldnt be position to point out that you simply lifted it from another game

[Hopkirk]

It's fine by site rules to let Hectic know it's over right?

[Hopkirk]

I never believed teh non consec though. But alas i wouldnt be position to point out that you simply lifted it from another game

I also assumed Rick was a regular doctor.

[bob3141]

At the time i though rick was baiting the scum into nk dave with him blocking the night kill. With dave flipping macho it all looked like it simply went wrong to me. if only dave wasnt macho

[Hopkirk]

There's absolutely nothing satisfying about this ending. It doesn't feel like we lost to play, it feels like losing to setup.
Obviously Rick played it well, but it just feels like I've wasted so much time on something that couldn't really be solved because of dumb setup gimmicks.


Joined three games since I had some time after a year of having a schedule that didn't allow for forum mafia

1.) Mod siteflaked at lylo
2.) Only modkill I've ever seen for issues other than activity + rolecop without 'roles' (though I'm fairly sure informed is a role).
3.) This one. Week long night phases. No votecounts for weeks at a time. Kop going a month without replacement. Fake guilties. The setup. Multiple self hammers.

Is this typical of the site now or have I just gotten unlucky?

[Hopkirk]

Winning wouldn't have felt satisfying either with how mafia sided the setup was tbh

[bob3141]

I stopped really playing this game day 5 after yet another absurdly long night.

Almost replaced out dayone when we were only getting vote counts every 3 or 4 days

[bob3141]

Hopkirk i think you have just been unlucky. Ive been in 6 games that have all been modded well.

luv in is day play is notorious lurker not suprising he lacks enthusiasm in his modding

[Hopkirk]

I very strongly considered subbing out at about three points

1.) Right after the other game when the mod flaked and LUV was posting very infrequently.
2.) The 7 day night phase.
3.) Every time I saw 'VC' left there for up to two days instead of the flip when I wanted to see the flip.

[Hectic]

Well played, scum, but yeah, this game turned into "guess the setup" and solving based on that, which made Rick's doc claim very believable.

On the bright side, Hop, we're slowly amassing a blacklist, so our games should improve over time. You've been pretty unlucky though, Hop. This and the Haunted village are the worst modded games I've played on here.

[AaronFrost]

Yeah Hop you've been unlucky. This is the first game ive played on here that's had modding issues.

[Flavor Leaf]

Winning wouldn't have felt satisfying either with how mafia sided the setup was tbh

*town sided....

Idk, it’s pretty satisfying on this end. We played clean.

[Flavor Leaf]

My strength as scum is causing town to play a “guess the setup” game.


PENNYWISING

[Hopkirk]

Winning wouldn't have felt satisfying either with how mafia sided the setup was tbh

*town sided....

Idk, it’s pretty satisfying on this end. We played clean.

Town sided yeah.

My strength as scum is causing town to play a “guess the setup” game.


PENNYWISING

How'd you convince the mod to add a bunch of machos without a doctor.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VC 4.4

Garmr - (4):

Hectic, Titus, AaronFrost, Rick Dalton

Not Voting: bob3141, Garmr, Hopkirk

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-14 03:28:42)

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Garmr was lynched! He was a

town voyeur!

bob3141 was endgamed! He was a

vanilla townie!

Hectic was endgamed! He was a

vanilla townie!

Hopkirk was endgames! He was a

vanilla townie!

Titus survives and wins! She was a

informed mafia visitor!

Rick Dalton survives and wins! He was a

informed mafia visitor!

AaronFrost survives and wins! He was a

mafia macho!

Congrats to the mafia, and good game to the town!

Mod and dead PTs will be released shortly. Mafia will have 24 hours to request any redactions before that PR will be released as well.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I know it doesn’t mean much now but just wanted to extend my sincerest apologies for the bad modding experience you’ve all had with me. I understand that I probably should have made a more concerted effort to find a back-up moderator and definitely shouldn’t moderate another game until I absolutely have the time to do. I was way in over my head thinking I could handle a game this size with my schedule.

As for the setup, I just wanted to build around a role that is hardly used at all in visitor. I can see why some may feel it was a major factor in the town loss. Overly focused night-play setups might not have a place in the Normal queue. There was some really terrible play by town here though and I think this is easily a landslide if so many mistakes weren’t made.

[AaronFrost]

I think just having a backup or co-mod would've fixed a majority of the modding issues. This should've been addressed much earlier in my opinion as good modding is a big part in making games fun.

I don't think the setup had anything to do with town losing since this setup was HEAVILY townsided. Town lost because of so many bad plays and apathy as the game was nearing the end.

Just my two cents. Apology accepted.

[Something_Smart]

Hi!

I'm gonna echo the stated sentiments that this setup was townsided. My apologies for letting it through, though I don't think the roles town were given were ones that would have easily enabled a sweep, they just sorta turned the game into a slog which could have simply burned through all the possible mislynches.

I think my biggest error here was allowing the loyal fruit vendor, that shit really should have been gated. Though props to Cliff for managing to hit a VT every night he used his power and thus operate at 100% efficiency.

The traitor in such a large game was probably a mistake, but then again... scum should be able to avoid killing their traitor in most situations. And he called a scum member a "Benedict Arnold." Come on.

Watching this was a learning experience for me; one of the big things I learned is that scum will kill outed investigative roles even when they can be abused if left alive (the scum visitors were specifically to screw with the watcher/tracker, this was something LUV insisted on). And also, uh, 21 players is a lot. Balancing big games is hard. So sorry! But I hope you guys enjoyed it anyway!

[Something_Smart]

Though props to Cliff for managing to hit a VT every night he used his power and thus operate at 100% efficiency.

Er, every night until he claimed, iirc.