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[Titus]

VOTE: Garmr

Now, if this wagon gets diverted, I'll be one annoyed mama.

[Hopkirk]

I want to draw this day out so I can reread when I don't have exams so I won't be voting for a little while yet. Apologies to anyone who wanted this to end ever.

By which I mean we lynch AFF today then I reread tomorrow.

Huh guess you do want this game to end then.

To clarify, today means the in game day phrase here. I'm unlikely to hammer until the 12th on any wagon tbh.

[Hectic]

@Hectic

can you answer this for me please?

This game is hopeless. I doubt now how many times Hop is gonna convince me to change my vote before I realise he's actually just scum.

Why are you letting someone you scumread dictate who you vote for? If you're town, wouldn't you be better off voting for players that you yourself find scummy?

Yeah, that's what I'm kicking myself for. Was scumleaning them also, but I preferred Garmr to both Eevee and Texcat the past two days.
Was scumreading Hop from 3 or 4 days back, and he's still convinced me to switch my vote every time lol, you gotta give the guy credit where credit is due. You got a great scum buddy on your team, Aaron. Even Zote would be proud.

[Hectic]

Though if Bob is scum, Aaron would be town... I think.

[Titus]

Though if Bob is scum, Aaron would be town... I think.

Why would Bob be scum?

[Hopkirk]

3 player mafia team makes me think the setup is something like triple ascetic mafia or all ninjas or something along those lines. We have tons of town power, but the actual roles don't help us.

I don't see how

2*masons
IC
Vanilla cop (cliff)
Watcher
Tracker
Backup tracker

Happens in a 21p game with 3 scum/traitor when you'd expect 4 normal scum unless there's something weird going on with night actions

The Titus/Garmr 'forgot' thing is starting to make me thing Rick may have solved things

[bob3141]

Though if Bob is scum, Aaron would be town... I think.

Things like this is making me sure you are scum. Constant attempts to discredit the last confirmed townie certainly arnt something a townie would ever do. I dont just have cliff clear but but soft clear from JJd aswell.

And in fact your only motivation appears to be the simple fact i scum read you.

[AaronFrost]

Though if Bob is scum, Aaron would be town... I think.

And what do you base this on?

Also bob was cleared by the fruit thing on like Day 3 so I don't know why you keep insisting that he could be scum.

[Hectic]

Though if Bob is scum, Aaron would be town... I think.

Why would Bob be scum?

Though if Bob is scum, Aaron would be town... I think.

Things like this is making me sure you are scum. Constant attempts to discredit the last confirmed townie certainly arnt something a townie would ever do. I dont just have cliff clear but but soft clear from JJd aswell.

And in fact your only motivation appears to be the simple fact i scum read you.

Well yeah, because you were voting me early on yesterday when everyone thought there was 4 scum alive. I didn't get hammered so I thought you must be scum.
But now we know 3 are alive, you're still mostly town. Rick's actually scummier now that we know there's only 3 scum, so there wouldn't need to be a doctor in the game. I guess I'm just a little peeved at you voting me so recklessly like that yesterday, and then completely ignoring all of my questions and requests to you.

My point is, if I'm wrong about one of my 3 picks, it's probably Aaron. But that's unlikely.

[bob3141]

Any one on the texcat is hight suspect. So much misrepresentation of that wagon while it progressed. You had garmr pushing the fact that everyone was scum reading texcat which was complete nonsense. Did any of the reamining townies go near that wagon at a time where we believed every towny woudl eb needed to lynch scum. And even with 3 scum atleast one of us was need. Such wagon happening with out me or carc shoudl have been rather suspect

The

[bob3141]

Though if Bob is scum, Aaron would be town... I think.

Why would Bob be scum?

Though if Bob is scum, Aaron would be town... I think.

Things like this is making me sure you are scum. Constant attempts to discredit the last confirmed townie certainly arnt something a townie would ever do. I dont just have cliff clear but but soft clear from JJd aswell.

And in fact your only motivation appears to be the simple fact i scum read you.

Well yeah, because you were voting me early on yesterday when everyone thought there was 4 scum alive. I didn't get hammered so I thought you must be scum.
But now we know 3 are alive, you're still mostly town. Rick's actually scummier now that we know there's only 3 scum, so there wouldn't need to be a doctor in the game. I guess I'm just a little peeved at you voting me so recklessly like that yesterday, and then completely ignoring all of my questions and requests to you.

My point is, if I'm wrong about one of my 3 picks, it's probably Aaron. But that's unlikely.

You miss the point that if you are scum then why woudl your scum buddies join. My current think is scum was just waiting for oen more townie to jump on texcat to push it over the edge.

at the moment im think aaron, hectic and garmr

[Hectic]

Jeez Louise Finch. This game isn't good for my mental health. Lynch Garmr when you're ready, he'll be confirmed scum in a bit since there's two votes on him.
I'll back in a week probably.

[bob3141]

If rick is scum then we have already lost as those macho would of been one massive red hearing if that were so. I just cant see there being so many macho if ther wasnt a doc. Mayve macho town but not pr machos. After all what would be the point.

[AaronFrost]

If rick is scum then we have already lost as those macho would of been one massive red hearing if that were so. I just cant see there being so many macho if ther wasnt a doc. Mayve macho town but not pr machos. After all what would be the point.

This makes me wonder if scum has any macho PRs? If so, then it's possible that Rick is a scum doctor, but he also claims to be non-consecutive which feels very limiting. I think a doc who's limited like that makes more sense for town than for scum with how many PRs town has had.

[Hopkirk]

Voting patterns and Garmr/Titus/Aaron is pretty consistent tbh

Elements - (7): Cliff Booth, Titus, Rick Dalton, Sharon Tate, Garmr, Gamma Emerald, AaronFrost
Garmr/Titus/Aaron all voting
Elements - (11): Cliff Booth, Rick Dalton, Sharon Tate, AaronFrost, Tchill13, EeveeLution Army, bob3141, Carcalilly, Judge Joseph Dredd, profii, Elements
Garmr/Titus jump off as it builds up at a similar time

Tchill13 - (6): - gobbledygook, Hopkirk, Cliff Booth, Titus, Hectic, Garmr
EeveeLution Army - (5): - Judge Joseph Dredd, Rick Dalton, Billy Pilgrim, bob3141, AaronFrost
Titus/Garmr voting together (gooble too)

Alonzo - (7): - bob3141, Garmr, profii, Judge Joseph Dredd, AaronFrost, Titus, Billy Pilgrim
Alonzo - (10): - bob3141, Garmr, profii, Judge Joseph Dredd, AaronFrost, Titus, Billy Pilgrim, gobbledygook, davesaz, Cliff Booth
Garmr/Titus/Aaron voting together, Gobble joins

Judge Joseph Dredd - (9): Garmr, Hopkirk, bob3141, Carcalilly, Cliff Booth, Billy Pilgrim, AaronFrost, texcat, Judge Joseph Dread
Garmr and Aaron voting

Cliff Booth - (8): bob3141, AaronFrost, Titus, Carcalilly, Hectic, texcat, Garmr, Rick Dalton
Wagon stalls until Garmr joins, Titus/Aaron/Garmr voting together

Pine - (7): Billy Pilgrim, Hectic, davesaz, AaronFrost, Garmr, bob3141, Titus
All 3 on wagon despite TvG
(Future wagons are crossvoting)

[Hopkirk]

Reads flip at pretty much the same time too. Early game don't like that meta discussion they had. Reminds me of a meta discussion I had yesterday with a partner.
Don't really see a natural progression.

[Hopkirk]

this

time we've got the right solve

[Titus]

@Bob, You and Carc can vote Garmr to rectify the situation.

I really don't like Hopkirk posting VCs reasonlessly to try and force a conclusion.

[bob3141]

If rick is scum then we have already lost as those macho would of been one massive red hearing if that were so. I just cant see there being so many macho if ther wasnt a doc. Mayve macho town but not pr machos. After all what would be the point.

This makes me wonder if scum has any macho PRs? If so, then it's possible that Rick is a scum doctor, but he also claims to be non-consecutive which feels very limiting. I think a doc who's limited like that makes more sense for town than for scum with how many PRs town has had.

I serously doubt scum has a doc as what would be the point. Odd that you would even raise this point.

If scum had a doc then what purpose woudl the town macho have. We dont have claimed gunsmith or vig so what advantage would it bring scum. The only town result based pr were either trackers or watchers. So a scum doc would be no different to a a scum visitor.

[bob3141]

@Bob, You and Carc can vote Garmr to rectify the situation.

I really don't like Hopkirk posting VCs reasonlessly to try and force a conclusion.

Incase you forgot carc is no longer with us

[Rick Dalton]

VOTE: Garmr

[AaronFrost]

VOTE: Garmr

[Rick Dalton]

So a scum doc would be no different to a a scum visitor.

Funny you say that...

[Rick Dalton]

But the voyeur was an issue

[Rick Dalton]

Eventually we’ll roll the same alignment, Bob.