Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[Sirfetchd]

Anyway point for the moment is Flubb is a go.

[Kerset]

Pg 40

Billy and aaron both look like they lynch is converging on them out of apathy in absence of any solid scum cases

This is the second post I’ve seen of Flubs soft-defending Billy and Frost.

It could be wifon but I think that 1st pick scum would acutely join billy wagon to secure governor.

[Kerset]

I am quite surprised that fetch got so many scum leans. Is it because he was on xaya wagon up to the end?

I feel ommited.

[Kerset]

Now when sane cop is dead we know that there is no scum redirector.
This game contains Gunsmith, who can find scum but might confuse them with gun owners.
I think that vigi and pgo should reveal themselfs. There is no risk of redirect and it would help investigation. We don't need exact role as long as we get only 2 claims. We can ignore JOAT for now BC we know he is high.

[nomnomnom]

These quotes were pretty good I'm convinced.

VOTE: Flubs

choo choo

[skitter30]

VOTE: nom

[Flubbernugget]

I'd like to correct you on one point: I did not oppose Billy's lynch, I was unsure he would flip scum.

A real opposition would be when people started voting rb en masse and I went out my way to defend them. THAT is opposition. I'm pleasantly surprised that billy flipped scum so that's a plus, but I'm not scum and lynching me would ruin our momentum.

Frost would be a good lynch today I believe.

What in the absolute fuck is this post

[Flubbernugget]

tone

it's generic and feels LAMIST-y

again there's the whole 'reacting to a potential lynch as if it's immediate' when it, in actuality, is not; this always looks survivalistic to me

Iirc Aaron and Billy were opposition wagons yesterday too so having them as today's lynch is a non starter

[Flubbernugget]

skitter30 42, 5

HMMMMMMMMMMMN

Your own fuckin shade ratio thing is off the charts right now LMAO

[Flubbernugget]

Skitter why do you dislike billy-xaya interaction?

Xayah's initial vote on billy was awful, and i didnt like her push there

I'm not sure, though, that billy's vote on her was a partner vote; billy's side of it doesnt feel svs + she was a cw to him, which makes me think she might be town

One thing i'm kinda wondering about is why rb died. Iirc one of his major suspicions was xayah and he was angling p hard to go after her

Thought it was Xayah and kerset

But either way rb can't stay in the game if he's got scum in his reads

[Flubbernugget]

I’m pretty sure rb suspected Flubs as well.

Ya it's kinda weird that scum went for rn instead of flub here

I think i'm interested in flub and nom today

I don't get why you think this. I was in everyone's null pile D1 and at least one of my reads were bad

[Flubbernugget]

I actually want to know why flubber didn't vote me earlier. He was still reading around 550.

What points in time are you looking at? I usually don't vote until I'm fully caught up

[Flubbernugget]

It’s getting a bit ridiculous now how Flubs still hasn’t checked-in despite having been onsite. Given the context of this game it does feel scum-indicative to me. 72 hour prod timers doesn’t help matters, either.

I suggest more votes on Flubs.

Yeah I was never prodded and I forgot about the game idk what the big deal is

[Flubbernugget]

Billy/Flubs/Frost scumteam would make sense, actually.

How do Billy and Frost make sense as scum together?

[Flubbernugget]

Pg 40

Billy and aaron both look like they lynch is converging on them out of apathy in absence of any solid scum cases

This is the second post I’ve seen of Flubs soft-defending Billy and Frost.

Like again. How many times have you seen two people floating as to lynch contenders that end up both being scum?

I have to check votecounts still. I feel like I'm missing something obvious.

[Flubbernugget]

I am missing something. Aaron was never Wagoned as aggressively as I remembered. It was more kerset/billy than Aaron/Billly

So kerset was probs mislynch bait

[Flubbernugget]

So yeah I need to check the # of votes on noms and go through rb's iso and my train is stopping so more later have a good one folks

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: nom

4th vote by my count (though there's a good chance I'm off by one or two ish)

[AaronFrost]

why is this a scumclaim?

If you stopped and thought about it for two seconds you'd realize that there's no way in hell Billy wasn't vanilla.

So why was this posted?

Well, so Aaron could emphasize of course that there's NO WAY he knew what Billy's role was because they're DEFINITELY NOT PARTNERS.

:squint:

yeah i'm not sure i see that
it's def not a scumclaim

it doesn't read that way to me, it reads more like aaron doesn't understand the setup and doesn't entirely understand why it's unlikely for billy to be a pr than for him to be faking that imo

Understandable criticism. Being completely honest, there were aspects of this setup that confused me at first such as the draft pick. And I did acknowledge that Billy was unlikely to be a PR but there was still a small chance that he could've gotten one. Calling attention to my partner's potential role like that is something I would never do as scum.

[Luca Blight]

Frost, how are you currently reading Flubs and Xayah?

[AaronFrost]

I think Xayah is less likely to flip scum since Billy flipped red so I might've been wrong on that read D1.

Flubbs is still null, I'm not getting any alignment tells from him even with his catchup. I agree with his point that we should look at who rb was scumreading.

[Luca Blight]

Rb wasn’t scumreading Nom, though.

[Luca Blight]

I’m getting the feeling more and more that Frost is scum after all.

[AaronFrost]

Rb wasn’t scumreading Nom, though.

rb was scumreading Kerset and Xayah and you've said both of them you think are town.

[Flubbernugget]

Rb wasn't scumreading billy either

He had some early pushes on aaron but backed off later in the day phase

There's also the bug push on kerset, who I really don't think is scum anymore

So the nk was probably a combination of him not getting lynched anytime soon and drafting well