Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[skitter30]

actually maybe not townpings on plum

[MathBlade]

They did. Quite simply put the post is unnecessary. It fishes for what I was expecting then you can mirror. Garcia’ing in the early game is almost always bad.

"bad" as in scum equity from tris or "bad" because perceived reduced utility in grilling me over the phrase "it's party time"

Bad as in denies reads which is proscum. Unless you have a good reason garcia’ing in the early game is bad as it tends to monopolize conversation through one spot.

Also bad because if denied me reads on you and if my gut was correct or not.

...

I'll tell you honestly the only reason for me to say "it's party time" there was a reference to the avatar thing me and my team have going on. However you read the choice to open with fluff, I'll tell you 100% NAI the reason that phrase came up is that

I'm saying this to try to help you get back your lost gut read in some capacity

Why does this feel truthful and icky at the same time? I don’t know why. Does anyone else see this or is it just me?

[Aristophanes]

Man I miss this stupid game <3

[skitter30]

math what was tris's post fishing for and what were you expecting?

Tris’s post was fishing for what I expected out of Plum.

Didn’t seem all that bad >> I either explain how it is bad, giving Plum an out if they are scum with Tris
Or if Plum is town Tris scum >> Gets me shit talking about town.

Either way it was just bad.

i think it's a response to 'it's party time' and that you're reading too much into it

[skitter30]

Why does this feel truthful and icky at the same time? I don’t know why. Does anyone else see this or is it just me?

oh yeah that's why i rescinded the townpings, it felt weird

[tris]

math what was tris's post fishing for and what were you expecting?

Tris’s post was fishing for what I expected out of Plum.

Didn’t seem all that bad >> I either explain how it is bad, giving Plum an out if they are scum with Tris
Or if Plum is town Tris scum >> Gets me shit talking about town.

Either way it was just bad.

it's not like you had to respond to me if you were waiting for plum's response.

also, how would you say me making that post negatively affected how plum responded?

Hey Tris!

You're about a year into MS, you've played lots, right?

I actually originally started playing in 2013, but there were only a couple games from then. I got back into mafia with this new account a year ago and have some games over the year.

You know what, I read that when yku came back I believe, but had forgotten.

Are you typically an emotional player?

i wouldn't say so. sometimes i guess.

Why does this feel truthful and icky at the same time? I don’t know why. Does anyone else see this or is it just me?

oh yeah that's why i rescinded the townpings, it felt weird

I don't see what you guys are talking about.

[MathBlade]

how did you get scared out of that, pray tell?

pedit @math

Because you didn’t vote me.

The post doesn’t show confidence. It reads to me “I wanna vote you” but “I don’t wanna follow through”.

I don’t see why a town player would not just vote so early. It seems odd/scared/non-commital

[Plum]

basically got fed up with the idea that MathBlade might actually not believe that "it's party time" actually came from the avatar just because tris picked up on it and said it before I responded

[RadiantCowbells]

Man I miss this stupid game <3

[tris]

VOTE: mathblade woo hoo!

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: mathblade woo hoo!

[skitter30]

it (usually) takes me a while to move votes
(although i guess i've been kinda breaking out of that meta recently)

idk why i didn't actually switch the vote there

i kinda want to vote plum tho

VOTE: plum

[RadiantCowbells]

i kinda want to vote plum tho

VOTE: plum

[skitter30]

rc are you going to be communicating through those for long, because it's going to get annoying really quickly

[Plum]

I feel like MathBlade comes from an era with different expectations, which like I kind of get because I played in that era and with a lot of the same assumptions at that time

it's very retro and not exactly easy to read at this stage, which, fine

I assume that's part of what skitter was feeling

[RadiantCowbells]

[skitter30]

ya

[tris]

i still don't get the plum scum pings.

[Plum]

I ... kind of like skitter's vote on me here?

I ... kind of like RC's rejection of it too but that might just be narcissism

[skitter30]

ok, why do you like my vote on you?

[Aristophanes]

i wouldn't say so. sometimes i guess.

Cool cool cool

I ask because while your initial post about the party hat was innocuous, your responses to Math calling it out were a little less so. I could see it from a newbie or someone like Nancy Drew (sorry my compadre but it's apt and I know you understand) who is more likely to take things more emotionally or personally on a quick read. You seemed a lot more ruffled by Math than you needed to be.

VOTE: Tris

I think this a decent start to the game and have a few decent reads already, which is nice

[RadiantCowbells]

[MathBlade]

math what was tris's post fishing for and what were you expecting?

Tris’s post was fishing for what I expected out of Plum.

Didn’t seem all that bad >> I either explain how it is bad, giving Plum an out if they are scum with Tris
Or if Plum is town Tris scum >> Gets me shit talking about town.

Either way it was just bad.

it's not like you had to respond to me if you were waiting for plum's response.

also, how would you say me making that post negatively affected how plum responded?

Hey Tris!

You're about a year into MS, you've played lots, right?

I actually originally started playing in 2013, but there were only a couple games from then. I got back into mafia with this new account a year ago and have some games over the year.

You know what, I read that when yku came back I believe, but had forgotten.

Are you typically an emotional player?

i wouldn't say so. sometimes i guess.

Why does this feel truthful and icky at the same time? I don’t know why. Does anyone else see this or is it just me?

oh yeah that's why i rescinded the townpings, it felt weird

I don't see what you guys are talking about.

What do you expect me to do? Delete your post? You made a suggestion “but there’s a little party hat”

It’s an implication the post is fine. Which plum can do themselves. I have glasses and sometimes it’s harder to see detail in the avatars. The fact you did it bugs me. If it’s so “obvious” there would be no reason for you to need to.

[Aristophanes]

Man I miss this stupid game <3

Honestly, this will never get old XD

[skitter30]

I'll tell you honestly the only reason for me to say "it's party time" there was a reference to the avatar thing me and my team have going on. However you read the choice to open with fluff, I'll tell you 100% NAI the reason that phrase came up is that

I'm saying this to try to help you get back your lost gut read in some capacity

this felt weird tonally ^

like too defensive and aggressive and i don't know the right words but like too ~strong~ a reponse to math calling her out for a what was basically a meme rvs post on a read that was basically irrelevant