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Post Post #7775 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:21 am

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jjh would also like to point out that if dave is scum and still has his commute shot, he can't both commute and kill on the same night.

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Post Post #7776 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:22 am

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UT's last game had a scum copy ability, similar to what FL fakeclaimed shooting EP with when he was dying in this game actually

As far as I see it we probably win this either way as long as we're not dumb enough to let either the person claiming the guilty or the guiltied live tomorrow if we're wrong UNLESS that's the case so that's how I intend to play it
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Post Post #7777 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:22 am

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In post 7775, Almost50 wrote:jjh would also like to point out that if dave is scum and still has his commute shot, he can't both commute and kill on the same night.
That's confirmed by what?
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Post Post #7778 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:23 am

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I tracked kuribo to Ank.

To decide who to track it was necessary to consider the gamestate.
I'm being left alive as a ML.
The empty kills were popping gammagoey's vests.
Scum gameplan was to kill not-me and frame me because I failed to track.
If I failed to track then my scumreads were wrong.
Therefore it's someone I'm not scumreading. Either kuribo or A50.
Kuribo hammered under conditions where it may still have been possible to get me.
Ergo track kuribo since he's so confident he can get me the next day.

If I had failed to track and been lynched it was a mech scum win. A50 probably vigs and would never vig kuribo, and that leaves scum+1 in the morning -> game over.

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Post Post #7779 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:24 am

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Btw, if kuribo is Scum AND the game still goes on, I dunno which of FB/gooey to lynch next. I know it's very very VERY unlikely, but I want to cover all basis.

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Post Post #7780 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:25 am

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Dave since you're here

Why did you refuse to share reads for all of day 4 and then not track/watch anyone that night?
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Post Post #7781 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:26 am

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In post 7777, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 7775, Almost50 wrote:jjh would also like to point out that if dave is scum and still has his commute shot, he can't both commute and kill on the same night.
That's confirmed by what?
By how Commuter works. Commuter
leaves town
so can neither target nor be targeted.

You may want to doublecheck with the mod if you are not sure though.

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Post Post #7782 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:27 am

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In post 7779, Almost50 wrote:Btw, if kuribo is Scum AND the game still goes on, I dunno which of FB/gooey to lynch next. I know it's very very VERY unlikely, but I want to cover all basis.
The game ends.

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Post Post #7783 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:28 am

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In post 7778, davesaz wrote: If I failed to track then my scumreads were wrong.
Therefore it's someone I'm not scumreading. Either kuribo or A50.
Kuribo hammered under conditions where it may still have been possible to get me.
Ergo track kuribo since he's so confident he can get me the next day.
This isn't even true btw
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Post Post #7784 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:29 am

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@A50:
That's actually hard.
5 scum plus a 3p is awfully scumsided isn't it?
The CEO or the homeless (actress? I don't remember). Tough decision.
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Post Post #7785 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:29 am

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In post 7781, Almost50 wrote:
In post 7777, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 7775, Almost50 wrote:jjh would also like to point out that if dave is scum and still has his commute shot, he can't both commute and kill on the same night.
That's confirmed by what?
By how Commuter works. Commuter
leaves town
so can neither target nor be targeted.
Fair

I still want to lynch Dave over kuribo
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Post Post #7786 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:32 am

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In post 7780, Gammagooey wrote:then not track/watch anyone that night?
Watch had already been used IIRC.
Held on to track for 1 scum remaining so that I couldn't false inno. That's basic usage of a 1-shot, surprised you even need to ask.
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Post Post #7787 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:32 am

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You're seriously considering lynching one of the best mechanical players on the site, with a guilty, over that guilty.
Inconceivable.
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Post Post #7788 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:35 am

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I'm more concerned with THE POINT of you nuzzling up to FL through the entire day instead of having reads of your own on day 4 and sharing them with everyone
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Post Post #7789 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:35 am

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In post 7785, Gammagooey wrote:I still want to lynch Dave over kuribo
Sorry, but I'm not lynching the Cop over the guilty.

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Post Post #7790 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:36 am

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I'm walking dog, fire I'm trusting you to not quicklynch anything while I'm gone
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Post Post #7791 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:40 am

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In post 7789, Almost50 wrote:
In post 7785, Gammagooey wrote:I still want to lynch Dave over kuribo
Sorry, but I'm not lynching the Cop over the guilty.


He's not a fuckin cop, he's a role that killed off his neighbors to become a JOAT and then claimed not to use any of those for five days

Conveniently not even using his watch when there was a lightning rod


Huge difference between a cop and a scum that can take on a cop role
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Post Post #7792 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 7790, Gammagooey wrote:I'm walking dog, fire I'm trusting you to not quicklynch anything while I'm gone
#toomuchtrust
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Post Post #7793 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:42 am

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In post 7788, Gammagooey wrote:I'm more concerned with THE POINT of you nuzzling up to FL through the entire day instead of having reads of your own on day 4 and sharing them with everyone
Keeping myself scummy enough that I wouldn't be shot immediately?
Having a huge problem at work that was keeping me up at night, so I didn't have time?
Feeling a little annoyed with several people who were breaking one of the most sacred golden rules of mafia and scumreading the cop?
I don't know, probably a mix of all of that.
Also FL was buddying the fuck out of me if I remember right, and I'm susceptible to clinging to what seems to be the only voice of reason.
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Post Post #7794 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:44 am

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In post 7791, kuribo wrote:Conveniently not even using his watch when there was a lightning rod
It had already been used the night before when I fully expected the doc to be killed.
I even picked the non-scum doc. :cool:
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Post Post #7795 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:47 am

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In post 7794, davesaz wrote:
In post 7791, kuribo wrote:Conveniently not even using his watch when there was a lightning rod
It had already been used the night before when I fully expected the doc to be killed.
I even picked the non-scum doc. :cool:



How convenient.
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Post Post #7796 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:48 am

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FL: "Hey Dave, if I go down for that slip, they're gonna expect you to watch"

Dave: "Shit you right Lemme just watch someone we aren't killing"
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Post Post #7797 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:53 am

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In post 7791, kuribo wrote:Conveniently not even using his watch when there was a lightning rod
That's not true. Look at this:
In post 7001, EspressoPatronum wrote:Accounting for the chance that dave has a watcher shot left,
nobody should submit an action tonight
except for dave. That'll increase the chances that dave can find scum if they use the kill.

I would heavily scrutinize anyone who decides to submit an action anyway.
In post 7005, davesaz wrote:Hey EP,

Hypothetically, what if I already watched the doctor I'm more townreading (the one not named FL) a couple nights ago? Advice for that case needs to be covered too. Hypothetically...
He
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watch EP the first night he got the JOAT.. "hypothetically". :wink:

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Post Post #7798 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:57 am

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In post 7796, kuribo wrote:FL: "Hey Dave, if I go down for that slip, they're gonna expect you to watch"

Dave: "Shit you right Lemme just watch someone we aren't killing"
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Post Post #7799 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:59 am

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So FL scumslips


Maria gets venged and flips scum

Dave uses his watch on EP that night?

FL gets lynched

EP becomes lightning rod

Dave OOPS NO MORE WATCH
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