Open 771: Pollock's Flag [endgame!]


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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:40 pm

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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:41 pm

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please don't utterly blindside me aaronfrost
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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:42 pm

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i think its very important to note that at the very least

me, you, woodchuck all want amrun/uncrowned dead so basically amrun v uncrowned could at this point very well be all theater so we will see

one of those two are basically guaranteed to be the lynch today but i am very interested in what they have to say
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:46 pm

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Yeah I agree that's why I want them to give reads, specifically how they read each other and also how they read your replace-in.

Uncrowned feels so disengaged here compared to that one town game I played with him but that could just be a factor of being irl busy.
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:47 pm

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yeah I think if I don't see anything from them that actually is substantial by tomorrow I'm going to vote amrun because I really don't want to see a loss by running out of time

and I don't consider anything posted by uncrowned/amrun as actually substantial yet so gotta hit those standards
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:29 pm

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VOTE: Amrun
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:29 pm

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so you scumread amrun?
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:29 pm

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what are your reads my dude spit em out for me
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:59 pm

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Maybe we lynch uncrowned since he doesn't deserve to live ugh
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:58 am

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Uncrowned/Amrun is out now unless he's making a huge gamble
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:01 am

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Alright so here's what's interesting

Amrun must be scum now because it's been ten hours and both scum haven't jumped on it

i don't care who is town at this point, the two of you vote amrun and we win this

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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:03 am

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call it lazy but yeah this is the solve
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:04 am

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if i had to guess the other scum i'd probabbbly have to say aaron but like... eh? hasn't really been a high enough effort game from me to make judgements anymore. either way we've won now
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:37 am

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vote count 5.02


Amrun (1) - Uncrowned

not voting: Amrun, AaronFrost, OkaPoka, woodchuck321

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mod notes: proddin amrun.
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:17 am

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What are you leaning towards woodchuck?
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:21 am

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if u have no thoughts just post to clear both of us as a scumteam
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:25 am

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Here's what I see based on the last few days:

Amrun/Uncrowned seemed pretty clear for a bit, but a few things are throwing me off.

1) Uncrowned voting Amrun and calling for a lynch is pretty clearly not scum with Amrun. {Uncrowned/Amrun} is out.
2) Both Oka and Aaron are pushing Amrun, and Uncrowned sheeples that, which again blocks out Uncrowned/Amrun

Here's another possibility that we've been ignoring Sky/Oka & Uncrowned

The day started off pretty Uncrowned heavy until Oka comes in. Reading back I was pretty much strongarmed into dropping the Uncrowned wagon. Sky left because an Uncrowned lynch seemed inevitable. When Oka reads back, they see a strange kill on Looker and an opportunity to frame an obvious nightkill on Amrun. From the little I had seen at that point I had Looker read as town; I don't believe there was a deeper meaning in that kill. Oka then played off the obvious nightkill (who was both the most obvious town and pushing Amrun) to get Uncrowned out of trouble.

Re: Sky on Uncrowned wagon - Sky was on Uncrowned wagon yesterday (not lylo) while there was momentum elsewhere and not much real danger of an Uncrowned lynch at the time. He then "reluctantly" admits that rooroo/Amrun could be a possible lynch order ("rooroo -> amrun makes sense i *suppose*") and his slot is now trying to carry that scum win through.

Oka is trying to take advantage of my inexperience to sheeple me into screwing this Lylo and Aaron's been on the fence with Uncrowned/Amrun anyway. When I voted Uncrowned, Oka went in full panic mode. To be fair I made a noob technical error but the response seems too extreme. Oka has also been basing much of his logic off the nightkills, which again could very easily have been made coincidentally to frame Amrun.

Aaron, I believe you're town. I'm not sure about Amrun from a scumread angle but there's no pairing left for him. But with Aaron town, {Uncrowned/Amrun} ruled out by Uncrowned's vote, and Oka's maneuvering today, {Oka/Uncrowned} is the only pairing I see left.
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:27 am

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assuming at least two town in {Amrun/Aaron/Oka} there's only one guy I can see with Uncrowned
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:27 am

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HAHAHAHAHA
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:29 am

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VOTE: amrun

scumteam is woodchuck/amrun aaron

If you need help ama
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:34 am

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Can you go back and list out who was townreading Looker vs who was townreading idk say RB and Amrun?
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:36 am

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VOTE: Uncrowned

oka comin in here thinking they can strongarm a newbie
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:36 am

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i'll take a look at the reads on looker, i didn't catch up a whole lot when i first joined
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:38 am

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Ok so Oka/wood team is impossible. Not sure if Uncrowned is gambitting here but I'm going to assume he isn't given it'd be a dumb move in this gamestate. That rules out Uncrowned/Amrun.

So that really only leaves

Oka/Amrun (very unlikely)
wood/Amrun (much more likely)

PEDIT: Son of a...
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:39 am

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its pretty clear to see why my response was extreme

we lose if town was exactly me,woodchuck,uncrowned which if you look at my posts I was considering an amrun/aaronfrost scumteam

we also lose my ability to hold my cards close to me ~i was planning on slow burning amrun to get her to reveal info and then string her up but you forced my hand to preemptively case her out and well i guess we've smoked you out

it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to pivot onto me/uncrowned over a team with amrun. you aren't even remotely considering amrun AFTER i made a decent case on her with evidence you haven't seemed to consider before. like you had her as second scum, why did that just disappear after Amrun has pretty clearly become the primary lynch?
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