Mini Normal 2153: Post-game


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Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:13 pm

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Not hammering.
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Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:14 pm

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No wait, I AM hammering.
VOTE: gera
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Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:16 pm

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Day 5's Fourth Votecount


geraintm (3): Isis, Not_Mafia, UnaBombaH
Isis (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
Replacement for Sujimichi (0):
UnaBombaH (0):
Not_Mafia (0):

Not Voting (1): geraintm

With 5 voters, 3 votes are required to execute.

Day 5 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-08-29 05:45:00).
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Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:45 pm

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geraintm has been executed. He was a
Vanilla Townie
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Not_Mafia was a
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Isis was a
Town Tracker
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Congratulations to the scumteam of UnaBombaH, Replacement for Sujimichi and Hoopla for winning Mini Normal 2153.

UnaBombaH was a
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Replacement for Sujimichi was a
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Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:45 pm

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lol mafia commuter rip
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:46 pm

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I don't feel bad
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:49 pm

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@Isis:
Is the setup still balanced?
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Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:52 pm

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I died here so long ago that I don't really know what happened

Tracker living to 5 people alive and town still mislimming looks very unlucky
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Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:53 pm

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Yeah I knew that role was horseshit, that's two games in a row where my reads were correct and i second guessed them because of claim related shennanigans.

GGs and congrats to scum
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:54 pm

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In post 2457, Dunnstral wrote:I died here so long ago that I don't really know what happened

Tracker living to 5 people alive and town still mislimming looks very unlucky
But the tracker could only track one of the leftover mafioso. Hence, it really could have went either way.
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Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:55 pm

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I mean, I stay off the NRG for a reason

Normal setups all look unfair to scum on paper but scum wins a lot of them anyway (while in the newbie queue they look fair and then towns always win)

I don't think it's really that balanced for a scumteam to have to weave between psychologist, a tracker, and a follower, no. The investigative roles get too strong as scum are eliminated.

Towns on ms.net like play in a way that makes it so they deserve to lose, though. Galron was lolhammered with no claim this game. notscience skipped a night action. These are huge and impact the balance of the game.

I really hate normals and prefer to play open setups, or I'd rather play a theme because at least it's more openly silly where normals seem to take themselves seriously but then they're silly.
I actually don't think I've rolled scum in a normal but I feel like it'd be infuriating to lose one of these things to a town that skipped all the unforced errors that are baked into the balance of the setups. It seems more gratifying to lose something like white flag.

I made an exception to my normal abstentions for Sujimichi but she left :(
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:56 pm

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I really don't enjoy having to play setup wifom

it's incorrect not to, even if it will sometimes mislead you like here

I love open setups so much more
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:57 pm

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I think this setup is more balanced than the weak doctor one I played FAC. I'm not going to complain too much
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:07 am

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In post 2461, Isis wrote:I really don't enjoy having to play setup wifom

it's incorrect not to, even if it will sometimes mislead you like here

I love open setups so much more
In the end, the game is still about deception. I don't think the setup of a game should prevent the mafia from deceiving the poor, innocent town.
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Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:10 am

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UnaBombaH gave me his night action to commute several hours before night end. I wonder if Isis had received a "Your target did not go anywhere." Results Private Message instead of a "You failed to receive a result." Results Private Message, would the game have ended several hours earlier?
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Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:14 am

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N_M wouldn't have appeared to be conftown, the game would have ended much later.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:15 am

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Oh, right.
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Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:28 am

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Checking in...or game is over.
Why on earth did you vote me and not the person you had a confirm on???

Like, I know I ain't great but I don't make a mistake like that.
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Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:29 am

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..and I missed the vote on the final pagetop. :(

GG guys.
Thanks for calling me masterclass Isis. :wink:
I really want to talk to you guys more after the game, and definitely play with you all again.
And the modding was overwhelmingly good. Never seen a votecount-level like this before.

Thanks to my scummates - it was a good team effort and our kills were on point IMO.

And in case anyone felt like I was rude, obnoxious or unfair - I apologize and obviously didn't mean any of it. That was just me being scum. :facepalm:

But now I have to go do my coaching stuff for real. :]
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Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:43 am

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So, I basically can't read anyone. Entering last day I had not mafia as my top read and replacement most townie.
:(

I need to Costanza more games
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Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:54 am

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In post 2468, UnaBombaH wrote:..and I missed the vote on the final pagetop. :(

GG guys.
Thanks for calling me masterclass Isis. :wink:
I really want to talk to you guys more after the game, and definitely play with you all again.
And the modding was overwhelmingly good. Never seen a votecount-level like this before.

Thanks to my scummates - it was a good team effort and our kills were on point IMO.

And in case anyone felt like I was rude, obnoxious or unfair - I apologize and obviously didn't mean any of it. That was just me being scum. :facepalm:

But now I have to go do my coaching stuff for real. :]
Thanks. I made two linking mistakes in my votecount in Day 2. One was carried forward for over ten votecounts while the other carried forward for three votecounts that I silently corrected since no one talked about it.
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Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:58 am

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I was just saving time gera, N_M would have voted you in f3.

losing with 5 alive and losing with 3 alive is the same
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:02 am

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Good job, Una. Excellent LyLo performance. I been inspired by the use of your emojis :cool:

o7 to Hoopla, great teamwork in the scum PT, which I am fine to release.

That explains why you wanted me dead so much but couldn't quite explain your scumread, Isis. Why did you decide to track me night 2?
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Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:13 am

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I dunno you were kinda scummy

I think I remembered better as of night 2, I'm in a lot of games and stuff
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:16 am

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Ughhhhhh

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