Open 75 - Vengeful Mafia (Mod screwup ruins game) before 604

[Xtoxm]

Random lynches is stupid i'd have done exactly the same as town.

If I was town i'd definately vig armlx.

I'm GF.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Random lynches is stupid i'd have done exactly the same as town.

That's what you

think

you would.

That was one quick victory. I suppose Mac was the goon?

[armlx]

xtoxm, you fail to get the point that my plan is +EV for the town.

I bet Macavenger or CES is the other scum.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

I bet Macavenger or CES is the other scum.

Right. Like I'd put the GF at -1 if I were the goon.

Anyway, if Xtomx is telling the truth, the game's already over anyway.

[armlx]

Yeah. I realize. My logic wasn't based on the godfather scenario anyways.

[Xtoxm]

xtoxm, you fail to get the point that my plan is +EV for the town.

No it's not.

[armlx]

xtoxm, you fail to get the point that my plan is +EV for the town.

No it's not.

How is it not? There's still analysis involved in the lynches, it just increases the odds of winning outside that analysis.

[Prof. Guppy]

OMG. This game ended page one.

With three votes, Xtoxm is Lynched. He was the MAFIA GODFATHER.

Macavenger was the goon.

This is just me being weird, but we could go around again. That is, if you guys are willing.

[Xtoxm]

Yeh sure. And maybe not using a gay strat this time...

[Macavenger]

We have a problem here. Since Guppy has declared the game over, I can post this...

You are the MAFIA GODFATHER
Your goon is Xtoxm
You know what to do.
Here's the Link:
viewtopic.php?t=8447

Err... yeah. Calling shenanigans.

[Macavenger]

Also armlx, I really honestly don't see how Creepo plan is good for town if a D2 townie lynch does not get a vig kill. Was not making that bit up. I maybe just am not fully understanding the plan though, can you explain how it still works in the absence of that?

[armlx]

I just laid out a tree of every possible game outcome and thats what it added up to. D2 you can lynch whoever.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

So.. there were 2 godfathers?

[Xtoxm]

I call draw...Lol

Mac would probably have been lynched anyway cos of the way my wagon went...

I just laid out a tree of every possible game outcome and thats what it added up to. D2 you can lynch whoever.

Doesn't make random not crap.

[Prof. Guppy]

We have a problem here. Since Guppy has declared the game over, I can post this...

You are the MAFIA GODFATHER
Your goon is Xtoxm
You know what to do.
Here's the Link:
viewtopic.php?t=8447

Err... yeah. Calling shenanigans.

QFT. I goofed, sorry. I guess the game is ruined now. What do we do?

[Xtoxm]

Just put town win in the title and pretend it never happend

[armlx]

You don't get it. Pairings are random, lynches aren't. It requires the same amount of analysis as it would otherwise.

[Xtoxm]

No, it was random, and you got lucky, as you would 2/5 of the time, and fail 3/5 of the time.

[armlx]

I don't see your point here. I have told you mathematically the strategy works out to put the town lynches at more likely to hit scum, and we still analyze, and you keep saying "No. you just get lucky"

[Xtoxm]

Ok well even if random lynches are mathmetically better we may as well just roll dice if we're gonna do that...

[armlx]

The lynches aren't random. The lynches are based on analysis.

[Xtoxm]

No, you randomly chose me on page 1 and they followed.

[Xtoxm]

Anyway let's not argue about this it's boring.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

No, you weren't lynched randomly. At least I didn't randomly pick you.

And the town wouldn't have lost after day 1 no matter what lynch. The plan really works, and there's a thread where the math proofs it.

[Xtoxm]

Yes, if a townie is lynched and vigs a townie.