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Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:38 am

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Scum should maybe get the number of PRs and which ones were rolled
Full setup info seems broken
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Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am

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And now the truth is laid bare. Now the damned soul seeks its due.
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Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am

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In post 2345, PlusJOYED wrote:I think if I was maf here I would have picked godfather, roleblocker, rolecop
This was the runner up, for me. I think it's really close.
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Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am

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Also I thought scum did get full setup info? "The undead are told which village roles are in the game"
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Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:40 am

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In post 2349, Isis wrote:Having all the PRs on one slot increases swing, but doesn't affect balance. The faction that is at a disadvantage wants more swing. We just saw that the setup was probably 3 Joats 3 trickster and I felt we were disadvantaged cause that seemed nuts. Therefore swing is desirable.
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Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:40 am

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We were told what roles were in the game but not how many of each
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Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:40 am

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Oh I see.
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Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:41 am

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In post 2349, Isis wrote:We just saw that the setup was probably 3 Joats 3 trickster and I felt we were disadvantaged
Who is this we
For the most part it seemed to be just you
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Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:41 am

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What distribution did you think it was?
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Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:42 am

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4 witch hunters seems more likely the way I read the setup, but I could be wrong
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Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:44 am

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In post 2358, Isis wrote:What distribution did you think it was?
I didn’t get a chance to even speak on it but just by odds 4 WH 1 trickster was twice as likely
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Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:44 am

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In post 2359, Infinity 324 wrote:4 witch hunters seems more likely the way I read the setup, but I could be wrong
I think you would have to simulate it (or like actually do math) to be sure as there is some dependence across selections. e.g. if you start with 2 tricksters and 9 points, you can't get 4 WH's.
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Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:46 am

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In post 2349, Isis wrote:We just saw that the setup was probably 3 Joats 3 trickster and I felt we were disadvantaged cause that seemed nuts.
Why did you think this? I thought for sure there was 4 Joats and 1 trickster.
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Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:47 am

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Intuitively I don't expect Joat having double chances to generate to produce quadruple Joats. That would be off by 2x. If their double chance to generate somehow generates equal Joats. That's off by 1x. That was my napkin math
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Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:47 am

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I thought everyone thought the way I did and don't really get how 4-1 would be obvious
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Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:48 am

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In post 2363, Isis wrote:Intuitively I don't expect Joat having double chances to generate to produce quadruple Joats. That would be off by 2x. If their double chance to generate somehow generates equal Joats. That's off by 1x. That was my napkin math
I mean you already know there's at least 3 joats in the setup though
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Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:55 am

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Being damned for sins not of his own hands, a man seeks a second chance. Blood must be paid for with blood.


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Mafia Guilty Child Treestump
. This is a mechanic used 4 times prior, mostly with Pine playing the part I seek. The reason I ask for this is generally that type of game gives a large amount of control to the scum stump when it comes to setup design. It also reduces the burden I have to bear regarding staying alive, as I am not truly a living slot in the game. This sort of game would be the perfect opportunity to clear the seed of rage I have from this game.

Now for the other side of the coin. I would like for Isis tone involved in the game in a major way. Either she can mod the game or she can play foil to me as Town Innocent Child Treestump. Either way I would like her to be a major participant.
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Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:56 am

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Tbh it could have been 2 WH 5 tricksters but that’s just not a balanced game at all I think
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Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:57 am

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1 2 3 4
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Unless I screwed something up, they are basically equal.
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Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:02 am

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Gamma how the hell did we pivot from "I will never forgive you for this scum game" to "I wanna do an invitational and give you a special role" lol
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Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:04 am

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I want to be the special role (or at least one of them)
This is the thing I asked about in the scum PT that might seem a little harsh
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Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:06 am

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I don't remember this getting mentioned in the scum PT.

I don't really like stump games but I'd maybe play town stump because the unfun part is always having a conftown you ought to be deferring to so in theory that might be the only fun slot lol
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Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:07 am

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Can I be a 50% jester treestump or 50% survivor treestump?
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Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:09 am

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You can be 33% vaporeon 33%jolteon 33%flareon
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Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:11 am

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Then we kinda both have roles we prefer that complement (you prefer town stump as you don’t have to defer to anyone, and I want scum stump to have a game where I control my destiny). Now we just need a mod!
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