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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:39 pm

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In post 448, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we can't miselim shelly town because shelly is scum.

if we were to mis-elim a town player who is not "vengeful" we will lose the game.
Please answer the question fmpov hypothetically, what would happen if Shelley were town miselim?

I need to know this especially if Isis tells me she only received the prod AFTER the D1 expiration deadline.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:40 pm

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In post 448, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we can't miselim shelly town because shelly is scum.

if we were to mis-elim a town player who is not "vengeful" we will lose the game.
So fmpov, any town miselim is equally bad, right?
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:42 pm

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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:43 pm

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any town miselim from a neutral pov has roughly an equal chance of resulting in a game loss
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 430, Gloria Cleary wrote:
@Isis, when did Shelley receive her first prod, BEFORE or AFTER the D1 deadline expiration date?
Isis can possibly confiscum Shelley if her answer proves she’s lying about forgetting about the game. Because if she received the prod before deadline, she’s proven to be lying and we can’t get this kind of proof on any other player.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:48 pm

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ok :3
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:21 pm

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Not that receiving if after makes her town. It’s still pretty sketchy that she left her vote on a player she townleaned, in a game with a plurality elim then just conveniently “forgot about the game” and then unvoted after the deadline had already passed.

Pooky’s reaction to this only increases my tr on him. I think scum!him would be arguing this. @TGP, how is leaving your vote on a player you townlean in a game with a plurality elim mechanic, then conveniently unvoting post-expiration and claiming you forgot about the game less “scummy” then whatever reasons you’re possibly scumreading Pooky for?
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:42 pm

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Votecount 2.2The Bulge - (1) TheGoldenParadox
PookyTheMagicalBear
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Gloria Cleary - (0)
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"Isis, a few questions have been asked."
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What if his rage got the better of him? He just couldn't risk it.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:46 pm

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*pokes Hectic's nose*
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:23 pm

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In post 457, Hectic wrote:
Votecount 2.2The Bulge - (1) TheGoldenParadox
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Not Voting (2) - The Bulge, Gloria Cleary


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"Isis, a few questions have been asked."
He left the message on her voicemail.
Normally Hectic would answer them himself, but he was just a technician here, and not only that, but an ANGRY one...
What if his rage got the better of him? He just couldn't risk it.

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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:35 pm

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i appreciate you gloria.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:57 pm

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In post 379, Gloria Cleary wrote:You know that this isn’t true. Wtf did you expect me to do here? We needed 4 - count ‘em - 4 votes to get the wagon off of Brooks and the fact that you are pushing me over TGP is extremely telling because you know that TGP is an easier miselim than me.
telling of what? I have no idea what you're getting at here. why would I go for a less easy miselim?
You’re progression on my slot has been hella weird. You not only refused to reacess Brooks but you shaded me for trying to stop her wagon. TGP has been extremely transparent and there’s a damn good reason Brooks voted you over them. “Careful” is what she called you iirc.
Once again, I never "refused" to reassess her. I didn't see what you were getting at, and you wouldn't help me to understand. I'm constantly reassessing everyone because that's how the game of mafia is played, and I didn't see anything that told me she couldn't be scum. stop telling people to "reassess" when all you're really saying is "say you agree with me".

how is the way I've been playing "careful" compared to tgp lol. They have 23 posts of unaggressive questions, uncontroversial pushes, not to mention barely being active in thread or engaging anyone. I was the only person pushing a universal tr. you shouldn't blindly follow dead townies' reads if their logic does not hold water.
In post 384, Gloria Cleary wrote:Scum doesn’t want me anywhere near Elo. Do you think scum!TGP would be this ridiculous? TGP knows they have 0 chance against me in Elo, that’s why Bulge wants to get me out of the way but isn’t voting me.

He isn’t even remotely suspicious of TGP. Only me. Wtf does that tell you?
uh... what?

also when did I ever say I wasn't suspicious of tgp? they've barely done anything. it's not like I was casing you, I was engaging you on points I didn't understand or that I thought were scummy. tgp has nothing to respond to, and iirc they have also left a question or two of mine unanswered. I haven't given any conclusions anywhere so I'd appreciate if you'd stop putting words in my mouth and making assumptions about my reads and intentions.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:58 pm

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In post 398, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 394, Gloria Cleary wrote:That’s my goddamned point. He has said absolutely nothing about TGP at all and instead of trying to re-evaluate Brooks, he shades me for trying to stop her wagon. In what world does this ever come from a townie mindset?

TGP is obvious town and Idk how you’re not seeing that but I unvoted because it’s Elo and it’s possible - extremely unlikely though imo - that I could bd wrong here but very much doubt it - because Bulge’s tone is seriously off where as TGP’s is extremely transparent. I really don’t understand how you’re not seeing this?
Gloria you know today TGP v Bulge is 1v1.

TGP knows today is 1v1 TGP v Bulge.

But Bulge doesn't know it.

Why doesn't bulge know it?

If you think I'm scum with bulge dont you think I tell him what the game state is?

If you think shelly is scum with bulge, don't you think shelly tells him what the game state is?

Bulge not knowing where the game state is, means its likely he is just completely clueless/lost - which is more likely of townie than scum at this point.
up until tgp voted there was nothing gamestate-related fmpov to differentiate between tgp and gloria. how the fuck does that make me clueless of the gamestate? just because you disagree with my suspicions?
In post 402, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:nothing he's done this game makes any sense
I'm not in the fucking mood for this again.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:01 pm

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I still don't think gloria is conf fmpov if shelly is the partner and was not online, but I think it's unlikely gloria would throw down the second vote on the wagon without waiting for her partner. the only thing that's not possible in this scenario is a pooky/gloria team.

VOTE: tgp
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:02 pm

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R u trolling
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:04 pm

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In what world is Gloria not conftown to u
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:07 pm

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In post 463, The Bulge wrote:I still don't think gloria is conf fmpov if shelly is the partner and was not online, but I think it's unlikely gloria would throw down the second vote on the wagon without waiting for her partner. the only thing that's not possible in this scenario is a pooky/gloria team.

VOTE: tgp
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In post 430, Gloria Cleary wrote:
@Isis, when did Shelley receive her first prod, BEFORE or AFTER the D1 deadline expiration date?
Isis can possibly confiscum Shelley if her answer proves she’s lying about forgetting about the game. Because if she received the prod before deadline, she’s proven to be lying and we can’t get this kind of proof on any other player.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:08 pm

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do you not remember the quick hammer rule @bulge

if gloria were scum and you aren't adrenaline tweaked she could just use the all members of my faction thing and win
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:11 pm

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oh what the hell

i thought shelly was doing an original bit with that opener hahahahaha

ok yes sry Gloria
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:11 pm

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In post 464, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:R u trolling
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@Bulge,
If you’re town here, do you literally not understand the setup? There is no bussing ffs! If Shelley is my buddy, my pushing her loses us the game.

Are you scum or just punking me? Serious question. :shifty:
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:12 pm

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Bulge what planet r u on rn
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:13 pm

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In post 467, TheGoldenParadox wrote:do you not remember the quick hammer rule @bulge

if gloria were scum and you aren't adrenaline tweaked she could just use the all members of my faction thing and win
I’m still not sure how that even works
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:15 pm

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In post 468, The Bulge wrote:oh what the hell

i thought shelly was doing an original bit with that opener hahahahaha

ok yes sry Gloria
That’s one of the reasons I think she’s scum. Claims to not understand the setup but does that?
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:18 pm

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shellly

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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:43 pm

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The Day 2 Vengeful receives a PM informing them they have 48 hours to choose a vengekill, after they've been eliminated. They are still not informed of why they are being asked to make this choice.
Players do not show whether they are Adrenaline-Tweaked or the Creator of Dr. Hideyoshi's clone when they flip.
Shellyc was due for a prod before the deadline, however because I was asleep, she received it after the deadline.
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