Mini Normal 2187: PIFiMDM [game over!]

[NoPowerOverMe]

What are your reads?

[Gamma Emerald]

Like what we're talking about right now

But...what we are talking about now came from the RQS and RVS? We had to start somewhere and we did, now this is where we are at.

Exactly what I was gonna say

[NoPowerOverMe]

I guess when fire was invented, you said, "we always did it without fire before, why do we need it now?"

[ben dover123]

What are your reads?

You expect reads 3 pages into the game?

I guess when fire was invented, you said, "we always did it without fire before, why do we need it now?"

I don't think this analogy is a accurate representation of what we are talking about.

[NoPowerOverMe]

What are your reads?

You expect reads 3 pages into the game?

I guess when fire was invented, you said, "we always did it without fire before, why do we need it now?"

I don't think this analogy is a accurate representation of what we are talking about.

I do, I'm trying to do something new, and you're resisting.

[ben dover123]

Y'see, maybe the world is better with RVS and we don't need to change that fact.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Yep, that's what they said about fire.

[ben dover123]

Yep, that's what they said about fire.

Well, I think what is different about the fire analogy is that RVS is needed. Before RVS there was nothing. Before fire, we just couldn't do things as efficiently. Big difference.

[Papa Zito]

I do, I'm trying to do something new, and you're resisting.

What do you mean by "you're resisting"?

[Elements]

UNVOTE: NPOM[/unvote

I don't like this
put your vote back

[NoPowerOverMe]

I do, I'm trying to do something new, and you're resisting.

What do you mean by "you're resisting"?

Should be self evident. He's acting like RVS has to happen just because it's always been that way, and moreover, that if you're against it, it's worth wagoning someone over.

[ben dover123]

UNVOTE: NPOM[/unvote

I don't like this
put your vote back

Your vote on NPOM is fake so you can't talk.

I do, I'm trying to do something new, and you're resisting.

What do you mean by "you're resisting"?

Should be self evident. He's acting like RVS has to happen just because it's always been that way, and moreover, that if you're against it, it's worth wagoning someone over.

Lol. RVS is a necessity, and if you are against it, you are against it, but I was wagoning you for other reasons (You wanting to wagon the inactives).

[Dannflor]

NPOM, how do you intend to sort active players if not by pressuring/wagoning within them?

[Papa Zito]

I do, I'm trying to do something new, and you're resisting.

What do you mean by "you're resisting"?

Should be self evident. He's acting like RVS has to happen just because it's always been that way, and moreover, that if you're against it, it's worth wagoning someone over.

In what way does believing RVS is important to starting the game "resist" the "something new" you're trying to do?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I never said that active players can't be scummy or worth pressuring, just that if in an A>B situation, I'd prefer the active player.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I do, I'm trying to do something new, and you're resisting.

What do you mean by "you're resisting"?

Should be self evident. He's acting like RVS has to happen just because it's always been that way, and moreover, that if you're against it, it's worth wagoning someone over.

In what way does believing RVS is important to starting the game "resist" the "something new" you're trying to do?

He's the one that made the issue that RVS is mandatory.

[ben dover123]

He's the one that made the issue that RVS is mandatory.

But how am I resisting to what you are trying to do? I said I'd gladly like to try it too, it's just a known fact that RVS is a necessity in games to start.

[NoPowerOverMe]

If only because I feel that a lurking player is trying to hide something.

[NoPowerOverMe]

He's the one that made the issue that RVS is mandatory.

But how am I resisting to what you are trying to do? I said I'd gladly like to try it too, it's just a known fact that RVS is a necessity in games to start.

Actually, in the forum I previously came from, there was no RVS.

[Dannflor]

Honestly, all the talk about theory of whose wagoning is worthwhile or whether RVS is important is just noise. I don't feel it's productive for

anyone

to continue that line of discussion. The only reason I prodded it is because #11 is a very touchy reaction to being voted. In my opinion, it's not pro-town. Jury is still out on whether it's scummy.

Btw dannflor being IC is pretty good because he’s like, the number one guess for a deepwolf whenever he plays

This is a weird thing to say.

What are your reads, Gamma?

[Dannflor]

Honestly, all the talk about theory of whose wagoning is worthwhile or whether RVS is important is just noise. I don't feel it's productive for anyone to continue that line of discussion.

People should be voting at this point instead of doing this.

[NoPowerOverMe]

#11 was a joke, I was trying to start a discussion point.

[ben dover123]

Actually, in the forum I previously came from, there was no RVS.

Ah, let me guess, MU? There is a reason why they have no RVS, and it's because cycles are 2/1. Those guys are tryhards

In MS, we have time to do RVS and RQS, and it makes the game much more richer and information bountiful, because without RVS these games would be dry as sandpaper.

I'll make a move though, because I agree that now this RVS talk isn't doing anything towards gamestate.

VOTE: Elements

Wanted me to wagon NPOM when he wasn't even on said wagon. Something is up with that.

[NoPowerOverMe]

How many times have you played with Dannflor and how many times was he scum, Gamma?

[NoPowerOverMe]

No it was not MU. I don't know if the forum even exists anymore.