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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:24 am

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I remember your walls, unwnd!

I even added one of them to the "townreads to cackle over" channel in discord.

My favorite one from that gallery though is Nacho's post 77-ish in the purple room night one, where he tried to sell me that there was no way gypyx could be coached past him, while I was actively coaching gypyx past him.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:26 am

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Which townread? Was it on Spiffeh?
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:28 am

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Spiffeh

Muffin

Titus

Brian

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Imperium
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Gypyx

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Pisskop

Shelly

Yep.
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:29 am

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I explicitly remember giving the mouse wizard a pat on the back for that.
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:29 am

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The rest of that was pretty good for my own end! I had Gyp/Pooky/A50 all within my null or lower
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:29 am

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I think part or what i was having trouble with is that u were slipping a lot of extra knowledge in inverted that i couldnt see the source of.

At some point i kinda assumed u had all knowledge from all hoods but i couldnt track how u got it (i.e. illicitly or not) or how the knowledge was passing from one hood to the other. But that went for purple room nights 2 and 3 and also dunn's hood. Like from my pov there was no way to differentiate cuz i couldnt track how you *should* have been able ro get that knowledge compared to what you actually seemed to know

I thought a couple of times of trying to figure out if u actually were supposed to know everything u did, but i didnt have enuf information to answer the question so it ended up being a wash for me

Knowing there wasnt a strongman i agree that watcher + ic + doc seems hard

Well have to agree to disagree on hoods ig
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:30 am

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I remembering replacing out and feeling relieved my scumdar wasn't completely fucking broken

Was seriously lost at some points even on D1
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:33 am

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I think days1 and 2 were kinda wash but learning that cabd gatecrashed was the key bit that sort of reframed everything properly for me; i think at that point onwards i was p on point
(Except for dunn. Ngl most of that was thinking he used his role to ger fferybork and cabd together in the same pt again ... it didnt even occur to me that *he*
was pocketed too, just thought he was scum)
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

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Of course by that point it was waaaaaaaay too late

Also q: did u guys have ur roles yet when u chose which thread u were in?
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

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Yeah you had some good reads and were starting to realize a bunch of stuff, few snags there but like

The influence was just way too deep by then, which sucked
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:36 am

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We had our roles before we determined placement yes.

Putting spiffeh in forwards was to make his motivation to invert seem more genuine.
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:36 am

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Not sure i would have gotten pooky but upon the gypyx hammer i was at like: cabd, lld, dunn, spiffeh, gypyx, probably a50

With fferybork being pocketed

I love it when things start making sense again, but t'was too late at that point
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:37 am

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In post 1435, Cabd wrote:We had our roles before we determined placement yes.

Putting spiffeh in forwards was to make his motivation to invert seem more genuine.
Ceph slipped that at some point
He had an argument presupposing that as an assumption when i was p confident that wasnt known

Worked for spiffeh too, townread him off of it for a long while till i realized that was like all he was doing
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:37 am

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That's why townblocks are bad news especially if scum invades that space

Confbiasing a group of people and just oging 'ok so I never have to sort this' only works maybe 60% of the time?
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:38 am

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I think cakez intended my role to be used entirely as a spy with zero interaction but since it let me post I billed it as a role just like flavor leaf from xeno. It not announcing me was annoying but I was able to paper over it long enough for it to work.
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:38 am

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If a townblock works

It sucks shit for scum, but townblocks can be whittled down or killed into

I don't understand why people weren't thinking 'jee, why is Cabd still alive' even at a base level
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:39 am

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I mean I can't speak for everyone. But for me townblocks aren't a "never sort" they're a "leave off the table for today and MAYBE tomorrow" kind of thing.

They should never persist past night two in a large and are onlyy valid day one of a mini.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:40 am

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In post 1440, unwnd wrote:If a townblock works

It sucks shit for scum, but townblocks can be whittled down or killed into

I don't understand why people weren't thinking 'jee, why is Cabd still alive' even at a base level
Firebringer voiced exactly this btw. But couldn't get traction because we had an outright majority in backwards day three. Even before we shoved skitter into the turnstile, we had a tie such that an elim on us was impossible without bussing.
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:40 am

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In post 1438, unwnd wrote:That's why townblocks are bad news especially if scum invades that space

Confbiasing a group of people and just oging 'ok so I never have to sort this' only works maybe 60% of the time?
Indeed

Pedit i was lol. Everythibg was screaming that there was scum in the townblock

Cabd mitigated the 'why isnt he dead yet' enuf by 'misplaying' and 'underplaying'. The question honestly wasnt why cabd but why wasnt fferybork
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:41 am

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I'm fine with that if your defintion was ubiquitous, but I feel like town relies on them too much

When I'm posting and it feels like town is on that page posting with me it really helps my comfort

But if it's a bunch of sharks then it feels like shit and that whole 'sorting' process becomes way harder to express
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:41 am

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In post 1441, Cabd wrote:I mean I can't speak for everyone. But for me townblocks aren't a "never sort" they're a "leave off the table for today and MAYBE tomorrow" kind of thing.

They should never persist past night two in a large and are onlyy valid day one of a mini.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:42 am

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I also went hard on the heartstrings.

I think it's very much a case of this being the game where I added full on emotional manipulation to my scum range in a way not seen since the penguin incident. (Sorry dear)
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:42 am

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Other general complaint

Kinda bored with the whole 'solve' mentality, I think it's afflicting. Play for the day you're in, not future ones. Too many people want the solve and lose sight of the fucking goal lol
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:43 am

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People treated this as one big game when it was two minis. We played to win both games, not the combined game.

Then when we got to the combined game it was already over just a matter of time. Town wouldn't have gotten six for six pretty much ever.
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:43 am

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And if they had gotten six for six then they deserved the hail mary win.
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