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Should we do a tournament?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:31 am
by Menalque
I’ve noticed that the chess subforum seems to have had a noticeable uptick in activity recently and it got me wondering whether a tournament might be something we’d enjoy doing. Consider this a test of interest, I figure we’d need like, 8 people at least to make it work?

Use this thread to say if you’d be interested and if you have any preferences about tournament format (round robin, head-to-head knockouts à la pogchamps, etc)

Those interested:
1. Me
2. Datisi
3. IV
4. Clidd
5. Umlaut
6. Gypyx
7. Dannflor

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:31 am
by Datisi
/in

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:06 am
by innocentvillager
/in

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:42 pm
by clidd
/in

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:29 pm
by Umlaut
/in

Double round-robin is probably fairest, but that's a
lot
of games depending on how many players we're looking at (though in this format we could have each player be in several games at once, to speed things along).

With elimination or double-elimination I'm not so much worried about first-move advantage unless we have some very strong players here, but how would draws be handled? Just replay until a decisive result?

Swiss system is kind of a middle ground between these but is quite complicated (I don't entirely understand how it works, to be honest, though I'm sure I could figure it out).

To keep things moving we probably need a timer. 24-48 hours per move seems reasonable.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:38 pm
by innocentvillager
I have a Swiss pairing system somewhere but we’d have to go round by round and it would be on the slower side

I like the idea of some round robin or group stage where we all play a lot of games, then if we have a ton of people maybe a “final 4” from the top scorers or we could just omit that last part

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:40 pm
by innocentvillager
round robin so we can play a bunch of games simultaneously is what I mean, vs round by round where we have to wait for all games to finish before we move onto the next game

Then we have to worry about people like flaking from the tournament, etc so idk, never played a correspondence tourney before so I don’t know what the best format is, just dumping thoughts

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:13 am
by Gypyx
/in

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:09 am
by Dannflor
I would like to play if this is done

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:46 pm
by Menalque
I was personally thinking single round robin might be a good balance between simplicity, all-play-all, and time commitment.

I wonder if we could then combine that with IV’s suggestion of a top 4 play-off series based on that, maybe in the form of a best of 3 where the player with the higher score gets to play white twice? And then moving to sudden death if the score is tied after three games.

We have 7 players tentatively now, I’ll give it another couple and then we’ll see what numbers are like. Might wanna keep it to 8 and then have others sign up to sub in in the case of someone flaming out (I know it’s not exactly fair but at least it guarantees the tournament finishes?) although I guess the alternative is that if someone flakes they just auto-lose all their remaining games?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:53 pm
by Datisi
can i just say i find it kinda funny there's a poll in this thread and it's sitting at 100% yes votes. i dunno why i find that funny i just do.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:54 pm
by innocentvillager
what did you say datisi?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:57 pm
by Datisi
iv did you just change your vote to no

do you want to get kicked out of this tournament

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:59 pm
by Menalque
Datisi rn:


Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:00 pm
by Datisi
hey, it ain't my poll on my thread

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:12 am
by innocentvillager
i bet plenty of other people would be interested that don't check the chess subforums here, lol

idk where advertising would be appropriate here tho

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:14 am
by Datisi
we should pm every single account that has posted in the last month, someone will respond surely

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:07 am
by Umlaut
In post 15, innocentvillager wrote:i bet plenty of other people would be interested that don't check the chess subforums here, lol

idk where advertising would be appropriate here tho
Since this is part of Mish-Mash I think making a post in the Mish-Mash games list would probably be okay, but IANAmoderator

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:25 am
by MURDERCAT
/in?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:49 pm
by Umlaut
In deciding on format, an important question is, what's the most games people are willing to play at once? I'd personally put a limit at four and I'd really rather not have more than three going. So we'll probably have to have at a couple of "rounds" in a round-robin tournament, even if those rounds include a number of games played simultaneously.

If everyone else wants to play seven games at once I'll grumble about it but probably still participate, just registering my own preference here.

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 pm
by innocentvillager
im fine playing as many games as possible at once but im probably in the minority

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:22 pm
by MURDERCAT
I would rather do a couple games at a time with a shorter clock but if the clock were just 4 days or something I could do 7 games at once

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:04 pm
by Menalque
I would probably rather not play more than 1 game at a time, but maybe I could work with 2

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:23 pm
by Umlaut
Single round-robin with only one or two games at once could easily take over a year to finish, if we're going with a time limit like 1 day or longer per move. If we're limited to that then we should choose some other format unless we actually want it to run that long.

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:42 pm
by MURDERCAT
We could do semi live games where you have 2 days to organize an hour to play with your opponent?