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[clidd]

Let's see the flip first.

[maxwell]

I mean, if she's scum, great, the game is won in spite of me. But I doubt it, and cabd, despite a stated certainty she was town, spent exactly 0 effort attempting to push any sort of alternative. Incredibly frustrating to have someone playing so blatantly scummy get a pass from multiple players.

[Sirius9121]

Official Vote Count

Maduisha

(4): samantha97, clidd, Umlaut, Cabd

samantha97

(2): maxwell, Maduisha

Not Voting

(1): TheFuzzylogic99

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-02-06 11:08:00)

[Sirius9121]

Maduisha was...... a Mafia Multitasking Night-two Roleblocker!

Spoiler: Role PM

Mafia Multitasking Night-Two Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Multitasking Night-Two Roleblocker

.

You may target one player at night two this game. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located

here

, where you may talk at any time.

You may perform multiple actions per night.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Night 2 ends in (expired on 2021-02-08 08:44:00)

[Sirius9121]

Cabd was killed. They were a Town 2-shot Cop.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-02-15 13:12:00)

[Umlaut]

So... there's no way both Fuzzy and Maxwell are town, right?

I think we just eliminate them both and autowin.

[Umlaut]

Funny thing is we agreed in the neighborhood last night that scum was probably Cabd

[samantha97]

just w8ing on fuzzy's result

also

So... there's no way both Fuzzy and Maxwell are town, right?

I think we just eliminate them both and autowin.

there is a way: you could be mafia

only way it'd be mechanically impossible for mafia to win would be if cabd lived

[samantha97]

btw I was so confident yesterday that I made that gif 2 pages ago just to post after maduisha came up mafia lol

[maxwell]

Well, sorry for the total fail on my part this game. Big time crap reads on my part

FWIW, not that it matters, I was bluffing with my role - it's actually a simple doctor, I can only protect VTs, so even hypothetically, I couldn't have protected Cabd, although I suppose making a ton of noise about how I scumread him didn't help.

I'm presuming fuzzy clears samantha here. I think it's probably him but really I can't wrap my head around what the mafia were doing yesterday.

[maxwell]

Looking at maduisha's ISO, she townbins Umlaut relatively early for not much reason and interacts with him a few times, mentions him as a suspect yesterday, but always a secondary one. I guess it's not impossible for them to be teammates but I struggle to understand why umlaut buses yesterday.

I'm left completely puzzled as to what scum were doing yesterday. I think maduisha busing fuzzy makes more sense than Umlaut going through with a hard bus on Maduisha but neither makes a ton of sense to me, really.

[maxwell]

Umlaut: Why'd you reverse your stance on Maduisha, exactly?

[Umlaut]

Ffs does anyone just give their role straight anymore

Inb4 Fuzzy is actually a 3-shot Loyal Complex Follower or something

[Umlaut]

Umlaut: Why'd you reverse your stance on Maduisha, exactly?

If you mean why did I vote them, I was originally of the opinion that Sam was a better elimination out of the two but I didn't really have a strong read on either one of them. I was always willing to vote Maduisha if it came down to it. The reason I made the vote when I did was because I saw a push to change wagons between those two for like the zillionth time for trivial reasons and I didn't like it.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Sorry Umlaut but you are wrong I am not a follower. I am a two-shot Non-Consectaive VT Cop


Max /Me killing Cabd makes sense as we were both targets of Cabd last night.
Sam killing Cabd to frame me and Max is another possibility. She knew that we were both targets for a Cbad investigation, Given that Max refused to protect her last night gives her an opportunity.

Giving that Umalut and Clidd are obvtown it is obvious, it has to be either Max, Sam or me. I am kinda leaning Max as Night 1 he protected Clidd instead of the claim cop and night two he refused to protect the Cop and then the cop get killed. I have to reread but Max seems like he was the one targeted by Cabd last night so he could of killed her out of desperation.


comes up dead the next day . He also claimed doctor after I outed him as a PR, He did not have to claim but he did. Feels like he was making a plausible denial for my result.

[Umlaut]

So, uh...

you didn't check Sam, then?

[Umlaut]

Oh, you said non-consecutive

[Umlaut]

Well, actually you said non-consectaive but whatever.

So literally I'm the only person who just put all my cards on the table as far as my role, except I guess the VTs

[maxwell]

Umlaut: Why'd you reverse your stance on Maduisha, exactly?

If you mean why did I vote them, I was originally of the opinion that Sam was a better elimination out of the two but I didn't really have a strong read on either one of them. I was always willing to vote Maduisha if it came down to it. The reason I made the vote when I did was because I saw a push to change wagons between those two for like the zillionth time for trivial reasons and I didn't like it.

You didn't really have a strong read on either of them?

Town pings on Maduisha.

Maduisha and Nepenthe are probably town

[*]Not really interested in Maduisha

[*]Also pretty confident Maduisha and Maxwell are town

I'm having trouble thinking about this game today.

VOTE: Sam

Can we just do this today and hold off on the PRs? If we assume exactly one of {Cabd, Fuzzy, maxwell} is scum and one of {me, clidd, Maduisha, samantha} is scum (and I do assume that), then honestly I'm much more confident about who is the scum in the latter group.

UNVOTE: Sam

Willing to vote Maduisha at this point but I'd like to get the answer to that question.

Prior to that last post, every mention you made of her was calling her town, never with actual reason. How are you saying you didn't have a strong read? In particular, in 755 you say you're

much

more confident about who is scum in Maduisha/samantha - where did that confidence come from, and why did it change?

[maxwell]

Strictly speaking, simple doctor is a terrible role that's damn near useless, and the the only utility I actually had was to bluff with my claim and hope I drew the NK over a role that can actually do something. Fully claiming yesterday would have been self-neutering. We might have avoided a lot of the bad setup spec arguments if we'd known everyone was claiming a stronger version of their role though.

[samantha97]

Sorry Umlaut but you are wrong I am not a follower. I am a two-shot Non-Consectaive VT Cop

are you a 'vt cop' or 'neapolitan'

[samantha97]

I still want an answer before the day ends, but ultimately gonna VOTE: maxwell regardless

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Neoplotian. I said VT cop which just a weird way of saying the same role. You prob thinking I said Vanilla cop which is different. Posting while still half asleep is not a good idea probably

[Umlaut]

@maxwell: You've got me there, I guess I did think Maduisha was town earlier in the game though I can't recall what the reasons were besides just tone.

I do kind of recall waffling mentally over the wording that I was "pretty confident" you and Maduisha were town, and ultimately deciding that straightforward messaging was more important than capturing my exact mental state. And as far as 755 it was kind of the same thing, I thought it was better to just stick with one target than say something like "in this first group any of the three could be scum but in the latter I think clidd has to be town so only two out of the four could be scum so my subjective odds of voting scum are better" which is more accurate but less likely to get anyone to actually vote.

[clidd]

I kind of don't want to give an opinion on anything at the moment, considering that I'm still reading some stuff.

So feel free to talk to each other.