Looking at all 3 setups you've designed, I think your modmeta is such that a vanilla cop is the same thing as a neapolitan in your setups. Which is maybe more town power than ideal, here, actually..
well, it's a little different because the vanilla cop wont know the vanilla's are cleared still, so it can be fought against still
Yeah, the punch line is that gypyx has never put a mafia goon in a single setup, so a particularly sharp speculator would rule out mafia goon.
Its.. just another angle for wanting some more simplicity from gypyx's designs.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
I kinda think you could do well modding a theme game, if you haven't already, with the same type of mentality that you bring to the normal games, just don't have to limit for normalcy (should still go for balance of course)
In post 55, Flavor Leaf wrote:I kinda think you could do well modding a theme game, if you haven't already, with the same type of mentality that you bring to the normal games, just don't have to limit for normalcy (should still go for balance of course)
eh idk, like, i don't feel like that style of setup is what the theme queue is for, and i already have something in that queue yeah
alright so, goons, rework the Vcop, anything more?
Town Vengeful Combined Babysitter Vigilante
Town Odd-night PT Cop
Town Macho Rolestopper
Town Informed * 2 (you know that both you and *player* are town informed, who are informed of each other being aligned with the town)
Town 2-shot Announcing Voyeur
VT*7
Mafia Goon * 2
Mafia Babysitter Enabler
Mafia Informed Compulsive Jailkeeper(all babysitters in this game are Combined Vigilante Babysitters. All vigilantes in this game are Combined Vigilante Babysitters)
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think that this is a good sidestep from the problematic aspects, although quite big, does this seem good? (testing around)
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
The wording on the town informed is awkward. What if they both had mailman so they could do the awkward wording part for you N1. "Masons that can't talk" has an official name is a theme role, can't remember what it's called. I think I like the rest of the setup.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
The innocent pair is a finnicky thing and Flavor Leaf is the primary so his taste with it is going to matter much more. It's not crazy to say it's good as is although "I know you know and know you know you know you know" is kind of spirally
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
yep best friends, thought it was okay, like, it's a named role, very similar to a normal one, plus speechless masons went well with gunless goon i felt
is balance okay though? i have some worries and idk how powerful masons really are, so it's hard to evaluate
plus, way weirder shit has been passed before imo, so unless you are trying to make the normal queue more "normal" (which is fine, and i'm ready to adapt to that) all this is pretty acceptable
yeah, i think it's good. if I were scum there, i'd be able to abuse that informed knowledge very well to scum's major benefit in a way i'd really have to be on my game to do, though, and that's kinda what i like about it. town has the potential to do VERY well, but scum typically should be able to do some work in this one
none of the roles scream have to be town besides the vengeful and the best friends, so yeah, id say it's good. a little bit of swing in certain places, but it's a good on the more complex end of a normal game.
Only the primary has to approve. Sticking to the primary secondary model developed in 2018 or whenever is key for review pace and minimizing reviewer burnout imo
Im happy anyways though
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
If the babysitter is shot and the babysitter targets the player the mafia JKed, then that's two kill attempts and the babysat player still does, right?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
