Mini Normal 2193 | A Member Of The SKs | Town Wins!

[Funeral Goose]

Does anyone honestly think I (or anyone else) would bus 2 times?

[lendunistus]

Mini Normal 2193 Official Vote Count - 4.1

Cookie Monster

(1): Funeral Goose

Funeral Goose

(1): esotericzoomer

Not Voting

(3): In the beginning, Cookie Monster, Battle Mage

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-02-27 15:00:00)

[Funeral Goose]

Anyone alive?

[Battle Mage]

hoping to pick up today

[esotericzoomer]

yeah i think we should just quicklim at this point given the activity

there should be three mafia thus we have a mislim and imo its between cm and fg so im fine shooting in my poe

[Cookie Monster]

I can tell you now I’m not mafia

[Battle Mage]

we have 8 days, calm down haha.

i feel like this should be a lock if we go through in detail, so i wanna be thorough (for once)

[Battle Mage]

my current sense is:

It definitely isn't Inthebeginning
It probably isn't Funeral Goose (although slightly incredulous going back and seeing how badly off the mark their reads were at times, despite subsequently boasting about being on both scum elims).
Which leaves EsotericZoomer and Cookie Monster.

Some observations:

I’ve been wrong and really been thrown off this game. I was suspicious of Gretchen and was wrong. I’m suspicious of Cookie, in the beginning, and Zoomer. That’s where y’all need to go tomorrow.

Just remember don’t go after Funeral, still don’t understand why that was a thing.

lmfao

I played a game previously with ItalianoVD-scum where he did something near-identical to the statement about Funeral in twilight after being elimmed (funny story, he was also hammered by me in that game). In that game, the player in the Funeral spot was town. There's 1 scum in Cookie, ITB and Zoomer.

Wanna vote Cookie?

Sure
VOTE: Cookie Monster

Gamma's votes on Cookie later in the game are interesting. Not sure if showmanship (wanting to lead a bus/distance in a very conspicuous way), or actually a viable mis-elim. Maybe latter is more likely, given Gamma pitched Cookie as a counterwagon to Italiano - doesn't make much sense to throw both his partners under the bus.

These are very quick and light reads to give an idea of where my head is. These are all obviously subject to change depending on what happens...

Spoiler:

town:

Goose - as stated a gut read just from postings and interactions. Also I didn’t like how their wagon came about.

Battle Mage - I played one game with Battle Mage (town) and I read another where he was (scum) and my gut tells me he is town. Hasn’t had the most content, but from what I’ve seen I feel like he’s town.

probably town:

Hub - Not really confident putting Hub here as I’ve never played with them and don’t really know what to look for. Postings and interactions have felt decent, but I gotta go with my gut here and it’s telling me they’re more than likely town.

Lunar - Although Lunar’s activity is lacking, the few posts he has made reminds me of Newbie 2049 where he was town.

null:

Gamma - I have only played one game with Gamma and he was scum. I don’t know what tells to look for from town!Gamma, but should be able to sort the slot better once we have some flips.

Ydrasse - Very similar to Gamma here. I have also played exactly only one game with Ydrasse and she was scum, but don’t know what to look for when she’s town. It’s also a slot like Gamma that I’ll have to wait for flips/reveals. I was leaning town for Ydrasse earlier, but there have been things that pinged me and has had me push her up and down the readslist.

Samantha - Can’t really read Samantha. She scumread me which made me think she was scum, but not sure at the moment.

leaning scum/scum:

Cookie Monster - Cookie’s early “why mes” kind of stand out to me. There also seems to be an overall defensiveness there and not the normal townie defensiveness. I’m gutreading this slot right now.

Gretchen - Has been broadcasting how much of a townie she is and wants everybody to follow suit. Aside from tunneling me haven’t seen very much from Gretchen except the aforementioned let’s all be friends.

In the beginning - My recent interactions have me thinking beginning is more than likely scum here. A lot of inconsistencies and hypocrisies and I feel like he jumped on my wagon. And I did initially think his quick clear of Gretchen was kinda ridiculous.

Zoomer - Earlier in the game I was leaning guttown for Ydrasse so I felt Zoomer’s interaction with her was kinda strange and I thought he was attempting to pocket her. When I called it out he kinda brushed it off with a answer almost like let’s not talk about it. To be fair I didn’t come back to it, but I was somewhat distracted.

this is a rich source of info. As I said yesterday, I reckon it's unlikely Italiano didn't stick 1 buddy in the "leaning scum/scum" bracket. Gamma was neutral, I don't think his top townread (Funeral) was the other scum.

[Battle Mage]

So you think cookie monster scum?

I’m not I can tell you that

deja vu.

not a single vote on scum in the whole game (admittedly only 2 votes made).

it's Italiano and Gamma sillies. it came to me in a dream and i don't think i'd lie to myself about something so important. so yeah. you lot can figure out who the third one is. good luck~

Is there anything particular that makes you think it’s gamma and Italiano?

this is

really

NAGL.

[Battle Mage]

ugh, yeah re-reading Cookie's ISO over and over again, it is not great.

no active scumhunting really, hardly using her vote or pushing any scumreads. a general lack of interest, but ears pricked up at the prospect of gamma-italiano scumteam being pitched. Pre-occupied with things like the tracker claim.

[Battle Mage]

Because I killed a town it’s bad right? So will I get eliminated?

You’re really milking this newbie thing huh?

salty scumbuddy?

[Battle Mage]

esotericzoomer ISO isn't much better tbh. I think it has to be Esoteric or Cookie, so just a question of which one we try first.

I think I’m in the wrong part of town...so many unfamiliar faces

this town aint big enough for the two of us
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

*shrinks in size*
Better?

UNVOTE:
thank you im claustrophobic

too cutesy - scumbuddies?

VT all the way.

I havr FOS on Gret and Sam. Gamma and HUB town. The rest are still null.

VOTE: Funeral

This was NOT hammer.

Funeral conftown then.

How?

testing whether funeral was conftown

hmmmm
gamma cw anyone?

posturing here for distancing cred, but no vote or anything meaty.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

gamma sk
italiano/funeral maf
ggez

ah here we go. good solve!

italiano/gamma/hub/battle mage is my thesis

gretchen probably died for this ^

either you're a secret genius, zoomer, or you're just an informed minority who knew exactly why Gretchen died. In hindsight, it's an uncanny take which at the time was very bold.

italiano/gamma/hub/battle mage is my thesis

gretchen probably died for this ^

is this a joke or serious?

I doubt Gretchen was killed by any of Mafia/SK/Vig for having dud reads.

VOTE: esotericzoomer

this will do until I read the rest tonight.

no yeah im sure they were killed because they were widely townread

seems to know why gretchen was killed, and is annoyed at it being mis-repped.

hey sam why is bm conf town

another bit of casual fishing for conftowns.

italiano/gamma/hub/battle mage is my thesis

gretchen probably died for this ^

is this a joke or serious?

I doubt Gretchen was killed by any of Mafia/SK/Vig for having dud reads.

VOTE: esotericzoomer

this will do until I read the rest tonight.

wanna mention that this is gross ^

OMGUS

how in gods name is gamma getting a pass from like half this game

did you know though?

[Battle Mage]

Ok so to recap, last scum likely in Esotericzoomer and Cookie Monster. I don't have a strong preference on which we elim today.

Also in case I die tonight, I'm going to full-claim.

I am a

Weak Mailman

. Meaning I can target someone each night and send them a message. But if they are scum, I die.

N1 - targetted Gretchen (doh)
N2 - targetted Inthebeginning (yay)
N3 - targetted Ydrasse (doh)

Reason I'm claiming now is I'm likely to get NKed tonight anyway and can't use my ability again because we'll end up on evens and lose instantly if I mis-fire.

In summary what it means is, Inthebeginning is 100% conftown. He can't confirm my alignment, but he can confirm he got the message from me (he claimed this yesterday).

[esotericzoomer]

cool then that makes me a lot less doubtful of a poe

now that you mention it a lot of those posts seem like theater from cookie
VOTE: Cookie Monster

i didnt follow through on my gamma suspicion day 1 because i was fine staying on lunar temporarily and nobody showed any intent to follow me onto them

[esotericzoomer]

actually no nvm i need to learn to trust myself more

VOTE: Funeral Goose

[esotericzoomer]

id love to use the full 8 days bm but given the activity i doubt we can even make a page on content with it

[esotericzoomer]

unless me and you have another spat like the good ol times

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: cookie monster

[Battle Mage]

actually no nvm i need to learn to trust myself more

VOTE: Funeral Goose

weird...why?

[Battle Mage]

on funeral-scum - given scum had information about the setup, and they were the first claim, do they really claim vanilla? i don't think so

[esotericzoomer]

on funeral-scum - given scum had information about the setup, and they were the first claim, do they really claim vanilla? i don't think so

true i did forget that but in all honesty i dont see the benefits in claiming PR really unless mafia!funeral's role is similar to a town one

[esotericzoomer]

actually no nvm i need to learn to trust myself more

VOTE: Funeral Goose

weird...why?

because i quite literally almost destroyed a game for town because i kept second guessing myself over and over and over again but you are conftown so i should just trust you

want me to hammer?

[In the beginning]

I prefer Funeral here, but I will hammer if needed. While I agree Cookie hasn't done much this game, I think it's partially due to lack of familiarity with the game. Ofc, it's possible she is using it as a smokescreen, but I really feel that her teammates would have tried harder to get her to do stuff.

For Funeral, I think all of his posts have been lackluster. I also think the way he reacted to the fake hammer earlier was really telling considering that he later noted he knew it was fake but decided to react as if was real anyways.

[In the beginning]

VOTE: Funeral

[esotericzoomer]

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