@clidd (and I guess everyone) lets try this: What one player would you want to learn the alignment of most right now and why? What do you think that alignment currently is?
Wheee made it so it retroactively replaces so the current slot name is there
So the first E-1 is on pooks slot in 1.08, 3 conftown, me gerain and VFP. I reckon VFP is the scum on the wagon there.
HypoSoc is the next player to meet E-1 in 1.24 with an almost perfect town wagon. Clidd being the only unconfirmed/uncleared player there. The slot then gets yeeted.
Off wagon is Me, VFP, DGB, gertaintm and Amélie.
game this size is going to have 3 scum I reckon, so you're looking at Clidd + {2 of: Me, Amélie, geraintm, VFP} if we're looking at that.
So we go look at clidds vote - between 1.21 and 1.22 - we find a nekkid vote. Justification given once featherless decided to poke him about it in 992.
D2, Dan opened HARD.
Clidd takes a bit of steam but I recall people getting distracted.... and that wagon drops quickly.
2.05 is interesting. Amélie builds up to E-1 pretty quickly with an almost conftown wagon again, the only one not being conf evern remotely, is VFP. Again, this wagon evaporates quickly.
I get to E-2 being an absent slot, ok look VFP the only one not even bias conf is there.
2.19 I am here and I need to change the script for sloppy matching because now I'm colourless.
2.22 has gertaintm at E-1, with VFP in pride of place againt and Clidd joins this time.
Amélie is conveniently nowhere to be seen on any of these wagons.
DGB goes down with 3 town, gerain clidd and me on the wagon as unconfs. I should look back at D1 actually with Amélie and see where she was...
In post 2402, LlamaFluff wrote:@clidd (and I guess everyone) lets try this: What one player would you want to learn the alignment of most right now and why? What do you think that alignment currently is?
If I had a one-shot cop to use, it would probably be on Gera. I know that A50 and Pooky as town or scum would give more info by saying if their reports are fake or not, but personally speaking, I would feel much better if I could know Gera's alignment and ignore (if town) his bad posting and not have to worry about the possibility that I could be giving a free pass to scum. I imagine that his alignment is more likely town than not, but I'm having trouble seeing scum beyond Amélie. With he being 100% town, however, it would remove a major mental block on my solving process.
It's assuming the same thing that Llama suggested earlier in relation to the theory of 1 scum on the wagon, when in reality a wagon can occur with or without scum intervention.
I mean, you can use a statistical basis to support the argument that 100% town wagons are unlikely, of course, but I have hardly seen this type of scumhunting method work in any game that I have played in since last year, except with a few specific players.
In post 2402, LlamaFluff wrote:@clidd (and I guess everyone) lets try this: What one player would you want to learn the alignment of most right now and why? What do you think that alignment currently is?
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Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
In post 2405, Flea The Magician wrote:Jeeze did Amélie vote at all D1? like this is dangling off the radar dish lurking.
3 Scum, VFP, Amélie and clidd.
Game solved.
so, i'm glad someone else has done these posts, they are what i try and do but better. i do bad excel things.
seeing your final posts flea, my fixation on clidd is understandable i think and i hope people come and join me. clidd just sits there and responds to llama and me when we point out how likely clidd is to be scum with "well...your logic is wrong" {shrug}
In post 2408, clidd wrote:I mean, you can use a statistical basis to support the argument that 100% town wagons are unlikely, of course, but I have hardly seen this type of scumhunting method work in any game that I have played in since last year, except with a few specific players.
my last game it is what i did to find scum and the scum thread had some posts pointing out i was correct. why i went into this game more confident in my hunting abilities. it is only when i am forced to look outside what i am comfortable with do i end up with ebeing on eliminations like yesterday.
you look like you have been able to bat away my poking for 2 days...but it is catching up with you and you've got nothing better than "your logic is wrong" to everyone.
One player i want to know the alignment of - well - clidd obviously. after that i would say amelie because i cannot get a handle on them at all, but they are being replaced so the new player will hopefully just be easier to get.
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Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
It's assuming the same thing that Llama suggested earlier in relation to the theory of 1 scum on the wagon, when in reality a wagon can occur with or without scum intervention.
In post 2405, Flea The Magician wrote:Jeeze did Amélie vote at all D1? like this is dangling off the radar dish lurking.
3 Scum, VFP, Amélie and clidd.
Game solved.
so, i'm glad someone else has done these posts, they are what i try and do but better. i do bad excel things.
seeing your final posts flea, my fixation on clidd is understandable i think and i hope people come and join me. clidd just sits there and responds to llama and me when we point out how likely clidd is to be scum with "well...your logic is wrong" {shrug}
I literally just yeet the votecounts into python, it makes things colourful so I can see things better ^_^ In theory everyone gets a unique colour
I also don't care to read (or think) much. I have a clear on RLotus and I have a strong TR on Pooky and that should be enough for me. I either get another result (Clear or Guilty) tonight or I join the dead thread (in which case I'm not reading that either ).
This leads me to believe I should be voting Flea; because it's where the Pooky vote is .. I think, but I'll hold until we see if a replacement does drop by and what they have to say.
Just for context, I already explained in our last game together why your method is of low precision. You being correct on one scum in that game was a point out of the curve, principally considering your other games, where your wr with this same method remains low, as well as the quality of your reads.
I have consistently shared what I'm thinking here, but you are selectively reading only what is suitable for your scum!clidd theory. I don't think arguing with you is productive if you are not acting in good faith.
And I'm just not pushing you because I think that you're town. Your push reflects me more as a town with problems of confbias, than scum insisting on the same false read several times without development (with the risk of being caught using circulatory reasoning).
"bad" is a strong word, I would say that "incomplete" is more appropriate.
My point stands. I ain't good at these, i'm workin on it. Feel free to draw your own conclusions using the data provided.
And given your 2423 - put your money where your mouth is then, instead of just outright attempting to discredit me and my 1am efforts, actually do the work and then discredit me.
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