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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:06 am

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EBWOP
and THAT looked strange enough for me to start asking questions.

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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:22 am

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Actually... I may have been feeding the town some misinformation... i can't actually see two instances of attempted derailment now that I look back :oops:

It does look a bit suspicious, to me, the way popular jumped on to the 'next-best' wagon at the time that Sun Tzu's wagon was gaining momentum though.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:05 pm

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Pop wrote:His posts feel too relaxed for pressured scum. Does he have enough experience for doing that?
1.Yes

2.When I'm town I get angrier under pressure than as scum, but that's just me.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:26 pm

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IH wrote:Especially considering that you are willing to clear put him as one of the most towniest players off of pure metagame.
I'm not saying he is one of the most towniest. He's not. I'm saying he is probably town. Do you get the difference?

Also, I'm not really seeing Lowell as calm during this game...
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:46 am

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I'm back. And here's why post 416 is stupid.

The fact that everyone has "taken a stance" on my lynch is meaningless. Not to mention completely manipulative by scum. Is it your contention that by lynching me you'll just be able to pick off scum based on who voted for me.

The popular wagon is much more interesting BECAUSE not everyone has taken a stance. So..... why not? That's the question you should be asking.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:09 am

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Now this is a post that makes me uncomfortable because it makes too much sense.

XDDD

No seriously, that is a great post. To be honest, I don't have a major opinion on Pop. I can support his lynch based on his play, and I see him as more scum than town. (I'd have to check my earlier list to put it. But, honestly, I *think* he was closer to 0 than not.)

Hm, I am still wondering...
Lowell, if you *COULD* vote someone after your lynch today, would you be more inclined to lynch FL if you flipped town or scum?
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:10 am

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EBWOP:
No, this isn't a loaded question, because I just realized it might be written that way a bit.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:52 am

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What does the "if I flipped town or scum" mean?

I'd lynch FL after my death, then pop.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:56 am

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I'm really getting tired of populartajo ignoring my question and saying Sun made sense and not saying how he was making sense.

unvote:
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I agree with dybeck (sorry if I missed spelled the name) about Lowell lynch giving answers on people and what they say. IH is right Lowell is good enough not to loss his cool no matter what his alignment.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:41 pm

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farside22 wrote:I'm really getting tired of populartajo ignoring my question and saying Sun made sense and not saying how he was making sense.

unvote:
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I already answered your question. About the making sense part I already said that its strange when you enter to a game partially drunk and when you start t be heavily suspected you change your mind. Thats incosistent and thats what I meant with "hes making too much sense for my taste". Are you payin attentipn or are there other things Im missing?
Now I understand my lynch brings enough information but I wouldnt like to be lynched for a dumb connection and my lack of time for posting when there are other players doing the same thing. Thats seriously lazy of all you.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:31 pm

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^ Well, could you push one of these cases?
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:38 pm

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populartajo wrote: Hi. Sorry Ive been busy. Im posting later.
populartajo wrote: Hi I was proded. Busy times here but posting ASAP.
populartajo wrote: Ok Im here rereading the game. Im posting soon.
populartajo wrote: Im preparing a detailed post for later.
populartajo wrote: Im finishing my post. Be patient.
No. Let's hear it.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:06 am

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Retarded timing for this, but I'm leaving town Thursday for about 10 days. I will try to find internet access, but, well, it's a vacation, so I won't be trying super-hard.

I'll make sure I get a post in tomorrow in case it's the last one I get. I'd prefer to stay in, but that's up to mod.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:35 am

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mikeburnfire replaces Syzygy.
I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.

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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:42 am

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Also, a deadline has been set for Sunday, August 17.
Which is also my 18th birthday.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:53 am

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populartajo wrote:EBWOP
and THAT looked strange enough for me to start asking questions.

Votecount:
Lowell - 5 (killa seven, farside22, Light-kun, IH, dybeck)
FaerieLord - 2 (Lowell, Syzygy)
sekinj - 1 (FaerieLord)
Not voting: populartajo, sekinj
6 to lynch.

why do you have my voting FL? that is incorrect. I woudl still rather go for Lowell today and then see about tajo...
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:54 am

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sekinj wrote:
populartajo wrote:EBWOP
and THAT looked strange enough for me to start asking questions.

Votecount:
Lowell - 5 (killa seven, farside22, Light-kun, IH, dybeck)
FaerieLord - 2 (Lowell, Syzygy)
sekinj - 1 (FaerieLord)
Not voting: populartajo, sekinj
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why do you have my voting FL? that is incorrect. I woudl still rather go for Lowell today and then see about tajo...
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:14 am

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sekinj wrote:
sekinj wrote:
populartajo wrote:EBWOP
and THAT looked strange enough for me to start asking questions.

Votecount:
Lowell - 5 (killa seven, farside22, Light-kun, IH, dybeck)
FaerieLord - 2 (Lowell, Syzygy)
sekinj - 1 (FaerieLord)
Not voting: populartajo, sekinj
6 to lynch.

why do you have my voting FL? that is incorrect. I woudl still rather go for Lowell today and then see about tajo...
EBWOP: I'm dumb. I thought tajo said that, but obviously the mod edited it in. Sorry!
You are currently not voting anyone right now. Why would you rather see Lowell lynched over Pop?
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:22 am

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I know I'm not voting anyone currently. I think they are both suspicous. Let me look back through and build a case.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:21 am

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I am going to wait on cases, but I am still feeling a Lowell lynch. I would like to lynch the apparent scumbag that is Pop.


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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:46 am

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Pbpa: tajo – For readability I just put “” on the posts I wanted to quote and paraphrased his other posts. Several posts I just quote what he said to show that he really hardly posts any content at all


Post 1:
This is one of his longest posts. He calls some people out for jumping on wagons.
This is interesting because later he jumps on the light wagon saying “I have a bad feeling”


Post 2:
“Kay but dont you think there are more possibilities of scum being in more bandwagons than town?”

Post 3:
“So what are you exactly proposing?
We lynch the guy who speedlynches?
Why dont we define speed lynching first?
Could you link me to that previous game you're talking about?
About Aegor's case, meh, why”
I don’t like all of his questions. He asks questions, questions, questions of everyone else but NEVER comes back and commits to what HE thinks. He barely acknowledges the answers. In several of these past and his upcoming posts I’ve striped out whoever he was quoting and I’m just show that he asks question after question without actually providing any CONTENT.


Post 4:
“So do you admit you did it for the reactions? Oh no, here we go again.”

Post 5:
“Whats wrong with my questions? Whats wrong with me defending Aegor? Actually I wasnt defending him, Im trying to find why the hell did he do that.”

Post 6:
“Aegor, what reactions have you seen so far? Was it worthy?”

Post 7:
“?”
Wow, now that is a worthy post. I’m sure he put a lot of thought into it


Post 9:
“If Aegor is town then there's like a big percentage of being one scum in that wagon. @Aegor, do you like reaction testers?”

Post 10:
“That was like the fastest answer ever. Lowell do you sincerely think Aegor is scum?”

Post 11:
“Can you explain which are correct?”

Post 12:
“Can you elaborate on this percentage, Light?”

Post 13:
“Discuss.”
again, he shares his thoughts and suspicions in a very clear way.. NOT!


Post 14:
“Vote: Light I have a bad feeling about him.
Great. Or maybe you have heartburn.


Post 16:
“Sun Tzu is making too much sense for my taste. He wasnt like this when he entered the game. Why is that, Sun?”
I don’t know what he means by Sun “making too much sense”. Sun started the game stoned, and proceeded to play incredibly angry and stupid. If that is what tajo means by “sense”……


“If I dont get a decent answer Im willing to vote him.”
What answer would have been decent? I don’t know what he is looking for here. Why is he holding back his vote? (because he is scum).


“Asking for claims is dumb becuase we are all vanillas, right?”
COACHING!!


“FoS : Killa Seven
Also Gimbo=Aegor in that last play. Gimbo, do you think Sun is scum for having reacted like
that t your post? Yes or no. Why.”
more questions directed at others. deflecting


Post 17:
“I meant that you tried the same gambit Aegor did in the beginning about talking about the game outside.
...........
Sun why are you making sense now? Were you like high when you entered the game? Please
answer my question.”
pushes for answers, yet never provides any of his own, still holding back his vote for the obvious scum


“Im still trying to find out if Sun not knowing he was replacing Lquiz and voting for him is a
scumtell or a towntell. Any ideas?”
ya think? Many people are already voting Sun at this point, why is he asking for ideas?


“As the post progresses I have the feeling that if Gimbo is town then Sun is scum or viceversa”
His List of Suspects is two people long, and he is voting for neither…


Still feeling bad about Light. There's something tricky in that post where he didnt vote
Blackberry.
this is his only evidence against that person he is voting??? something tricky?? Huh?


Post 18:
“Accoriding to IH we now have one more life. I need to reread the game now that Sun was scum. He never answered my questions. One thing Im noticing is that he really was angry about his lynch, like really angry and frustrated. Would it be possible that some scumpartners were in his wagon taking in count he was probably the lynch of the day?”
complains that Sun didn’t answer his questions. He asked sun, “why are you now making sense?” What was Sun supposed to say? I’m not sure why Tajo is STILL pushing that Sun never answered his question. Would that have given us SO much more insight? Also, I think there is a good chance he was bussed, but I don’t think his anger is any indication. He just seems like a crazy, stoned, angry noob, imo.


Post 19:
Link me to that game please.
Funny how my idea started a really quick wagon. Can all the voters explain why FL is the vote
today?
If Faerie Lord is town this wagon will tell us much about the wagoners.
I think this is pure deflection, Tajo gets on his soapbox about wagons whenever he isn’t a part of one.


Post 21:
Rereading and to be honest, Im still not seeing what Farside is seeing. For the moment I don’t support a FL lynch.
Light, whats the logic behind a FL lynch in a worse comes to worse?
Lowell suggesting that we lynch Fl instead of him seems a desesperate maneuver. Why do you
think FL is 100% scum?
doesn’t support a lynch, big surprise there, tajo is not willing to commit. Still gives NO evidence one way or another. WHY does he not support a lynch?? WHY does he think Light is suspicious? These are all questions he should answer for the town instead of pushing questions off on everyone else.”


Post 22:
Mmmm. Didnt I say this before?

Post 23:
Poor Gimbo. Fos Aegor
WHY??? Explanations would be great.


Post 24:
Light, who do you think would like more to rejoin this game: scum or town?

Post 25:
What theory? I was just asking him a question.

These last four posts again show him asking questions, and yet again providing no insight to help the town. If Tajo DOES flip town, he certainly hasn’t helped the town very much so far.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:21 am

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sekinj: it's surprising how much of your reasoning i can disagree with whilst still broadly agreeing your main point.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:15 pm

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Sucks to do this guys as I have never done it but I dont have even enough time to answer even one of all the posts directed at me. I know Im town and Im not doing a good job to show it so Im definetely being replaced for this game.
Luckily I think we have a decent town and that all the information compiled in my wagon can work for you guys later.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:00 pm

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Hm... Dybek, I have to seriously agree. And I can't believe Pop is asking for a replacement, holy crap....

And to be honest, his case isn't made entirely of crap, so I am going to vote pop over Lowell today. Doesn't mean I have stopped suspecting him, but I personally love this case against Pop, and his reaction makes me feel we found scum...

Anyone have evidence as to his innocence?

*Staying on Lowell for the moment, because I am still happy with his lynch, but I can support either for today and tomorrow, as Lowell looks scummy, and Pop has apparently done...nothing.*

So, the questions we need to ask are: Who do we lynch first/who is less scummy between lowell and pop AND/OR
Does anyone else deserve to go under the microscope today before we vote one of them?
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:17 pm

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Light-kun wrote:Does anyone else deserve to go under the microscope today before we vote one of them?
killa seven is scum. But he can wait till tomorrow if necessary.
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