Normal Idea Mafia (150/150 roles submitted, discussion thread up)
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RH9 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Serial Killer Combined Babysitter BodyguardLast edited by RH9 on Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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There is at least one Encryptor in the deck, which opens up the question of whether that role is still Normal in games that already have daytalk even though it doesn't do anything, and of whether Normal Idea games should have auto-daytalk given that it seems to be thede factostandard these days.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Cook SheMafia ScumShe
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Town Mason
I'll update the OP shortly, but for the next 50 roles...
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3-Shot Juggernaut Rolecop Serial Killer
@Cook I updated my troll posts and they are A LOT more tame
This post has been edited to bring it into line with the latest update to the Normal guidelines, in which the role name "strongman" was changed to "juggernaut." The function of the role is unchanged.Last edited by Alianna on Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.master at being scum(my)-
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TemporalLich Grand Scheme
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Town Doctor 1-shot Combined Cop Doctor
Each night, you may protect someone from a single kill ability.
Once in the game during night, you may protect someone from a single kill ability and learn if they areTownorNot Town.time will end-
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biancospino he/shecompulsive complex Inventorhe/she
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Town combined Vigilante loyal Bodyguard
Each night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die. If your target belongs to your faction, that player will be protected from one kill that night and you will be killed in their place(this includes your Vigilante shot).
Essentially a Night Desperado-
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Since the first 100 roles posted were already chosen to make a full game, we could run a version of this game now by restricting to the first 100 using the percentile dice method Cook suggested before. Cook, would you like to run it or let someone else do it? (I will if no one else will, but tbh I'd rather play in it.)
In fact it might not be a bad idea to choose all sets of 100 this same way; then you could run a range-restricted Normal Idea for any set of consecutive posts [100n, 100n+99], or perhaps any union of those sets.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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TemporalLich Grand Scheme
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Mafia Neapolitan
Each night, you may learn if a player is aVanilla Townieornot a Vanilla Townie.time will end-
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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
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I'd be willing to run one of these if Cook doesn't want to.
We would have to iron out the Encryptor thing though as I would definitely be running it with daytalk.I townread Alianna.
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Cook SheMafia ScumShe
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I would co-mod or backup mod a game of this, but not as the primary moderator, owing to my restrictions.Your friendly neighborhood chef and baker. LONG LIVE THE CHEFHAT REBELLION!
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Mafia Neighbor
We're going to have to errata several roles which are less-than-Normal, I think.
If someone could help find the non-Normal roles, I will propose errata for them.Your friendly neighborhood chef and baker. LONG LIVE THE CHEFHAT REBELLION!
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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
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Town Mason
17 is the only explicitly non-normal role that I could find, but there are a few other roles (36, 39, 75) I'm concerned about. They're technically within the letter of normality, but I'm not sure they're aligned with the spirit. I'm not sure if I've missed anything there though.
The encryptor thing is one issue, but I've also thought of another issue. What happens if you roll only one mason or neighbour card? Do you put the player in a PT by themself? Remove that piece of their role? Convert someone else to a mason or neighbour? Reroll?I townread Alianna.
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Umlaut Jack of All Trades
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Werewolf Loud Babysitter
Spoiler: Response to Alianna, and more normalcy concerns“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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RH9 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Werewolf Traitor Combined Babysitter Bodyguard
We can technically just nullify them and treat them as the Vanilla role of their factions.In post 110, Cook wrote:Mafia Neighbor
We're going to have to errata several roles which are less-than-Normal, I think.
If someone could help find the non-Normal roles, I will propose errata for them.-
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RH9 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Mafia Ascetic Simple Shield Complex Loyal Traffic Analyst
These are separate actions so you may NOT use both on the same night
I love this deck so much
updated;Last edited by camelCasedSnivy on Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.master at being scum(my)-
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Town Mason Novice Jailkeeper Night 3 Friendly Neighbor
You may not use the Novice Jailkeeper action and the Night 3 Friendly Neighbor action on the same night.
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This role has been Errata'd to comply with Normal guidelines.
Original role:
Town Encryptor Mason Novice Jailkeeper Night 3 Friendly Neighbor
You may not use the Novice Jailkeeper action and the Night 3 Friendly Neighbor action on the same night.Last edited by Cook on Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:31 pm, edited 3 times in total.master at being scum(my)-
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SerialKiller Informed lazy compulsive Commuter
Each night, if at least two anti-town players were alive at the start of the night, you must commute, thus preventing you from targeting, or being targeted by, any other player this night.(In particular, you can't perform your factional Nightkill, unless you're the only non-town alive left)
You are informed that [player] does not belong to the Town. (Note: [player] is a non-town selected at random)
What does "personal FriendlyNeighbour" mean exactly? FN does not iteract with actions at all, so the personal modifier here does nothingIn post 118, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Town Ascetic Bulletproof Encryptor Mason Novice Jailkeeper Roaming Even Night Mailman Lazy Weak 2-Shot Psychologist Personal Night 3 Novice Friendly Neighbor
So the TA always fails since it's both complexIn post 117, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Mafia Ascetic Checker Simple Combined [Shield Universal Backup] Complex Loyal Traffic Analyst Loud Visitorand simple (since all parts of the combined... do inherit the simple modifier); how is [Shield UB] supposed to be parsed in such a way to make sense within the combined mod?-
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Personal Friendly Neighbor is funny that's why but if you want me to change it then sure (also you didn't even notice "Night 3 Novice")In post 119, biancospino wrote:SerialKiller Informed lazy compulsive Commuter
Each night, if at least two anti-town players were alive at the start of the night, you must commute, thus preventing you from targeting, or being targeted by, any other player this night.(In particular, you can't perform your factional Nightkill, unless you're the only non-town alive left)
You are informed that [player] does not belong to the Town. (Note: [player] is a non-town selected at random)
What does "personal FriendlyNeighbour" mean exactly? FN does not iteract with actions at all, so the personal modifier here does nothingIn post 118, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Town Ascetic Bulletproof Encryptor Mason Novice Jailkeeper Roaming Even Night Mailman Lazy Weak 2-Shot Psychologist Personal Night 3 Novice Friendly Neighbor
So the TA always fails since it's both complexIn post 117, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Mafia Ascetic Checker Simple Combined [Shield Universal Backup] Complex Loyal Traffic Analyst Loud Visitorand simple (since all parts of the combined... do inherit the simple modifier); how is [Shield UB] supposed to be parsed in such a way to make sense within the combined mod?
also no, Simple affects the Combined action and Complex affects the TA, the TA isn't in the combined brackets, which is why the brackets are there in the first place
afaik shield UB would just be the shield action along with whatever action is inherited from UBmaster at being scum(my)-
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Town Announcing Loud 2-shot Vigilante
What's the legality of Day Specific roles? Night Specific roles are explicitly normal and it seems pretty reasonable to extend it to Day Specific roles like Activated Innocent Child but it's not actually explicitly normal as far as I can tellPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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TemporalLich Grand Scheme
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Town 1-shot Role Cop
Once in the game during night, you may learn a player's role.time will end-
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TemporalLich Grand Scheme
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Mafia Combined Checker Fruit Vendor
Each night, you may check a player and give them a fruit. You will be informed of whether your check attempt on that player succeeded or not. They will be notified they received a fruit.time will end
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