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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:35 pm

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VOTE: Dunn
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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:39 pm

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That's GG by the way
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:39 pm

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Not revealing my other partner, I'll leave it as a surprise
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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:40 pm

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Let's just say someone's about to cry, I guess?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:43 pm

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Scum!unwnd has a particular ability to make me not want to be in a game anymore.

When I was typing my vote post up, I was on the fence between voting or replacing out... decided not to force a replacement to deal with 83 pages of catch-up.

That is the exact same feeling I had in the first game once you replaced in.

I keep trying to say that your slot felt the same in both games.
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:44 pm

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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:44 pm

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I'm a bitch to kill and I'm really sorry for that Lukewarm, I just do what I have to in order to win.

You had the right thought on me, and then I twisted it and made you uncomfortable. That being said, if I made you feel awful then I sincerely apologize and that is not my intent. I will work on better ways to argue as scum if that is the case.
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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:44 pm

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The being tired thing was true. The emotions were true.

I'm just very good at making them seem town.
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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:45 pm

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I'm sorry Luke. I really wanted a couple more days to go back through the thread one more time.
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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:46 pm

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In post 2081, unwnd wrote:I'm a bitch to kill and I'm really sorry for that Lukewarm, I just do what I have to in order to win.

You had the right thought on me, and then I twisted it and made you uncomfortable. That being said, if I made you feel awful then I sincerely apologize and that is not my intent. I will work on better ways to argue as scum if that is the case.
The crazy thing is that nothing you did in either game really made me think you were town. I lost both games pretty sure you were scum to the end.
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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:46 pm

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In post 2078, Something_Smart wrote:Let's just say someone's about to cry, I guess?
Awesome. :/
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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:47 pm

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Yeah, I respect that

You logically thought I was scum (I was), but you emotionally felt responsible and overthought it

That was my hope
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:48 pm

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In post 2086, unwnd wrote:Yeah, I respect that

You logically thought I was scum (I was), but you emotionally felt responsible and overthought it

That was my hope
I wanted out of the game, but did not want to go out voting the opposite of how absinthe read the wall
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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:50 pm

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If I made you feel that way I apologize immensely

Anger and frustration are past emotions that I struggled to keep in control. When it comes to scum, I guess I just let myself go. I'm not afraid of upsetting someone because if they get upset, someone could agree with me. Or they could think I'm town. It's not a way I really enjoy playing, but I feel like as scum it's hard to believe my own logic. My convictions get muddled and then to compensate I get leadfoot and floor my emotions.
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:52 pm

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I want into the Mafia chat pretty bad atm
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:52 pm

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Town me looks at this game

Sees I'm spamming and not being helpful and shuts the fuck up

Scum me looks at this game

Sees I'm spamming and continues to do it because someone might townread it

It's something I'll readjust though
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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:52 pm

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GG mafia!

This setup was really interesting to work on, but I feel like one game day of positioning into the three minigames and then one game day of minigames just didn't give me enough different kinds of data to chew on. And I think that's a me-problem.
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In post 2086, unwnd wrote:Yeah, I respect that

You logically thought I was scum (I was), but you emotionally felt responsible and overthought it

That was my hope
I wanted out of the game, but did not want to go out voting the opposite of how absinthe read the wall
I don't know if giving me more time would have made a difference. And I remember back when mafiascum length game days just interminable to me, so I think I understand where you're coming from.

Sorry I was on the wrong track and stressing you out.
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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:54 pm

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Did people like the setup overall? Do you have any suggestions for changes/improvements?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:57 pm

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Honestly, every time you interacted with me I was more and more sure you were scum. But then I just could not explain it to Absinthe. And Absinthe just not seeing it made me second guess myself.

I am counting this as a game where I was correctly able to identify the scum. Now I just have to work on explaining my reasonings in a way that can convince other people...
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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:58 pm

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In post 2092, Something_Smart wrote:Did people like the setup overall? Do you have any suggestions for changes/improvements?
Over all, I think it was a really good set up. I kind of wish there was a proper night phase in between the minigames tho. Would have been nice for everyone to stop and react to the Keep flip, and then come in prepared for the discussion.
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:59 pm

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I like the setup in concept but I think your own complaint towards me was valid. Why did you need to read me or care about my read on you? We were in separate XYLOs. The idea of the thread taking place for all 3 minigames is nice but once you're locked in there's not a lot of incentive to really solve outside of your own. I assume this is why you were just sitting in a mode of waiting and didn't care what happened in the Wall. Maybe should could be changed to fix that disconnect?
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:59 pm

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In post 2090, unwnd wrote:Town me looks at this game

Sees I'm spamming and not being helpful and shuts the fuck up

Scum me looks at this game

Sees I'm spamming and continues to do it because someone might townread it

It's something I'll readjust though
And that was one of the reasons I scum read you T-T

I correctly spotted a scum tell from you, but had a terrible time nailing you for it.
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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 6:59 pm

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The setup is really fascinating. I'm curious what the stats would be after running it a few times and if there's a more optimal approach to working out the groupings.
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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:00 pm

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You're gonna go places Lukewarm, I mean that

I hope you stick around and I hope a game comes where you either fool the pants off me or nail me with such precision I can't possibly wriggle out!
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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 7:04 pm

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I'm honestly kicking myself, because I was suspicious of Briar for most of Day 1. And then in Day 2, I decided I was going to tell infinity to vote for Ana, but then talked myself out of it. Once Briar revealed her Alt, Infinity seemed so sure, so I decided to stay out of it.
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