Mini Normal 2209: Musicals II [Endgame]

[Anya]

the blood on the walls was telling me to but deep down i knew he was probably town

why'd you stop thinking he was very very very town?

[T3]

VOTE: unowen

[T3]

The nm flip.

[Anya]

i actually just remembered you being misbrutallyexecuted in other games for having no progression and sharp drift turns on reads so i've already changed my mind

VOTE: treeowen

[UNOwen]

VOTE: unowen

VOTE: treeowen

:/
Save me Lemons.

[UNOwen]

@CDB - what's your take on the game?

[InsidiousLemons]

VOTE: unowen

VOTE: treeowen

:/
Save me Lemons.

why should i?

with 5 players that's e-1

[InsidiousLemons]

why do you assume i don't also think you're the most likely scum

[InsidiousLemons]

tbh we all knew that was going to flip town but we had to lim it.

i vehemently disagree with this. i was quite sure bloodhail was going to flip scum and if i wasn't, i wouldn't have voted there. i don't really think you're scum for this because i'm pretty sure you've said basically the same thing in another game i've played with you, so this is more of a playstyle question. i'm really just bewildered that you seem to think "knowing" a slot will flip town and voting there anyway is ever a good idea

[ChannelDelibird]

@CDB - what's your take on the game?

I'll be honest, when I came back in after an unexpectedly busy weekend to find that an entire execution had happened while I was unavailable, I took advantage of the opportunity to sit on my backside and fail to catch up a little longer over the Night. It's pretty wild to me that bloodhail got killed, especially as quickly as he did, but I couldn't right this second claim to know enough about how it happened to have a strong opinion. (Working on it.)

Eyeballing the thread extremely quickly, it seems to me like T3 kind of woke up after the N_M death in a way that makes me wonder if it's an 'oh shit, I have to actually try' situation, but I won't be voting before reading more properly. I still feel like Anya is unlikely to be a N_M partner, so there's that at least.

[T3]

We could,'t really let him survive to elo.

[UNOwen]

why do you assume i don't also think you're the most likely scum

Educated guess, but I guess I guessed wrong. Unless you're being coy?

[T3]

Owen is at e1. Should they claim or no? It is pretty early in theday.

[UNOwen]

I look forward to CDB's catch up. He's currently the player I'm most suspicious of, mainly because of this:

Anya so quickly moving from the vote on me to N_M feels likely town. I would expect scum in her position to see where the wagon on me went because it absolutely looked like the most likely thing to come to fruition at that stage and I don't think anyone would have given her any grief for staying on me.

This is presumably his justification for Anya not being partners with N_M. Unless Anya has a dark history of ruthlessly bussing her teammates then I agree it makes her very likely to be town but I'm not sure how this conclusion is reached before we knew N_M's alignment? At that point it was possible from CDB's perspective that Anya was switching from one town wagon to another, which doesn't seem particularly unlikely behaviour from scum.

[UNOwen]

Owen is at e1. Should they claim or no? It is pretty early in theday.

WI say no. Do you think I'm scum or just that PoE requires me to not be around at endgame?

[T3]

Owen is at e1. Should they claim or no? It is pretty early in theday.

WI say no. Do you think I'm scum or just that PoE requires me to not be around at endgame?

Honestly, PoE. + you not voting nm.

[UNOwen]

Honestly, PoE. + you not voting nm.

Why do you have CDB and Lemons as town?

[T3]

Lemons is gut and that they were an nm pusher. Channel I'm less sure about but he seems to be producing a lot of content.

[ChannelDelibird]

I look forward to CDB's catch up. He's currently the player I'm most suspicious of, mainly because of this:

Anya so quickly moving from the vote on me to N_M feels likely town. I would expect scum in her position to see where the wagon on me went because it absolutely looked like the most likely thing to come to fruition at that stage and I don't think anyone would have given her any grief for staying on me.

This is presumably his justification for Anya not being partners with N_M. Unless Anya has a dark history of ruthlessly bussing her teammates then I agree it makes her very likely to be town but I'm not sure how this conclusion is reached before we knew N_M's alignment? At that point it was possible from CDB's perspective that Anya was switching from one town wagon to another, which doesn't seem particularly unlikely behaviour from scum.

The point - which I think is pretty clear from the original post - is that it would be the easy thing to do for a scum-Anya to stay on my wagon, which looked at the time more likely to gain momentum than N_M. Scum like easy ways to progress wagons on town that don't endanger their credibility. Anya actively opting for a more difficult choice was a strong pro-town indicator, and that was true even before we knew N_M's alignment. And now, when talking about that post retrospectively, I can just use "not N_M's partner" and "scum" interchangeably because of course I can.

This feels word-twisty.

[ChannelDelibird]

Channel I'm less sure about but he seems to be producing a lot of content.

...

do I?

[Anya]

let's be real it's gotta be the tree or the bird bc of the boxxy kill the box contained two wolf reads and it just makes sense one of those two was the who emptied it

also shouldn't we all just claim or at least the tree and the bird should

[ChannelDelibird]

I already claimed VT on Day 1 but agree that it's unlikely that there is anything to be gained by us holding off on a massclaim at this point.

[InsidiousLemons]

why do you assume i don't also think you're the most likely scum

Educated guess, but I guess I guessed wrong. Unless you're being coy?

i

do

think you're the most likely, but it was also a genuine question. i don't really like how careful you're being with the answer.

i am in favour of a massclaim at this point. i'm VT

[T3]

I'm also VT.

[T3]

That leaves the PR in Owen and Anya.