Open 814: CultD3 CULT WINS

[Dwlee99]

Enchant's post was literally a minute after yours what are you on about

[Marky Mark]

That might make enchant scummy but not vice versa - I can't stop other players voting the same way as me

[Marky Mark]

Yes, I was wrong about Osuka/Flea being the solve and I should've stuck to my original hunch on Raya but you are twisting events here.

[Dwlee99]

My point was that you saw Osuka put to E-1 by Enchant and you could have unvoted to prevent a quickhammer. I also think Raya has CL-equity so I don't want to tunnel you here. I want to at least base agree that Enchant/Raya are 2 of the three cult.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea the entire cult claimed to us with those three votes.

SO which one is CL?

[Dwlee99]

Raya or Marky imo with off-chance Umlaut. If it is T3 we are screwed basically.

[Dwlee99]

Raya cult claimed though and enchant is enchant so no CL-equity. I'm realizing now that there are only five people it could be and I named the four that aren't me but I feel like it isn't T3 because of the weirdness of that wagon. Also it feels weird if the wagons yesterday were CL and a rolecop but maybe it's possible. What do you think of t3?

[Flea The Magician]

OK I've heard you spout about Marky and Raya, if it's Marky then hats off to the fella he's welcome at mine for tea and biccies any day. Raya you've gone on about, I admit I've been lazy. I haven't read. I'm suspicious on Umlaut, what you thinking there, and same for T3.
Bear in mine, I'm reading what you're putting with a fine toothed come right now.

[Dwlee99]

I want to know what convinces you of town!marky

Umlaut was with me voting on T3 instead of Raya. If Raya is CL then he could be a non-CL cultist. I don't really have anything super weird about him. I liked his reaction to my push on him day one and I've kind of mentally filed it there. I think this is unlikely which is why I'm thinking the team is more likely to have marky than umlaut.

T3 is the counterwagon to Raya there yesterday who is now confirmed cult. I think his appeals to me to vote Raya were good which is why I unvoted yesterday T3 yesterday and was considering hopping on Raya but then got caught up in the Osuka WIFOM. So t3 seemed townie yesterday and so I don't think he is part of the team.

Already said why I don't think Umlaut is part of it.

I don't think you were recruited the first night and couldn't have been second night so I don't think you're part of it.

That leaves three people which is Marky/Raya/Enchant as the team by process of elimination.

[Flea The Magician]

Marky has been active and encouranging conversation, looks to me like he's been keeping the game from going stagnant.

Raya uses she/her, ftr. If Raya is cult, I don't think the CL quickhammers like that and I will be treating her like I'm treating you, very carefully.

Sounds like T3 is off the table completely for you. I need to look at the T3 wagon formation I think...

[Dwlee99]

Oops sorry about the pronouns.

[Dwlee99]

Marky has been active and encouranging conversation, looks to me like he's been keeping the game from going stagnant.

To me it feels like the active and encouraging are kind of shallow which is why I scumread him day one.

[T3]

Marky!town the Raya is cl. Dwlee!town then Marky is cl.

[Dwlee99]

Why is Dwlee!town raya!CL out of the picture?

[Marky Mark]

My point was that you saw Osuka put to E-1 by Enchant and you could have unvoted to prevent a quickhammer. I also think Raya has CL-equity so I don't want to tunnel you here. I want to at least base agree that Enchant/Raya are 2 of the three cult.

But at the time I thought Osuka had a very good chance of CL and the solve involved Flea!Scum, which would mean that Enchant was town, so why would Enchant voting there worry me? Your argument only makes sense in light of the flip, which we obviously didn't know at the time.

[Marky Mark]

So Osuka flipping town does reduce the liklihood of Flea!scum but Flea!scum/Enchant!town could still be a thing, esp given how scummy Flea was late D2 when avoiding taking a position on the Raya/T3 wagons

[Marky Mark]

I'm getting reasonably confident that Dwlee is scum here as his position on me went from "meh" d2 to "this slot is definitely scum" today based on a town wagon that we were both on

[Marky Mark]

I'm gonna be out for the rest of the day but am reasonably confident CL lies in Raya/Dwlee by this point. If its T3 or Umlaut then GG

[Raya36]

I don't get why I'm being assumed as cult here. I had been scumreading osuka all along by play (not mechanically) and we were close to deadline.

[Dwlee99]

Raya I'm not letting you act like a contentless hammer as soon as Osuka got to E-1 is anything but a scum claim

[Dwlee99]

I'm getting reasonably confident that Dwlee is scum here as his position on me went from "meh" d2 to "this slot is definitely scum" today based on a town wagon that we were both on

It's about the quickhammer. Literally overnight for me it looked so bad. The other part of it is just PoE. I'm just assuming T3 town for now and one of flea/enchant recruited gives me that raya/umlaut/you is cult leader here, and I townread umlaut based on day one play.

[T3]

Why is Dwlee!town raya!CL out of the picture?

Because you weren't on Raya.

[Dwlee99]

I don't see how that follows?

[Flea The Magician]

So Osuka flipping town does reduce the liklihood of Flea!scum but Flea!scum/Enchant!town could still be a thing, esp given how scummy Flea was late D2 when avoiding taking a position on the Raya/T3 wagons

I took a rather firm position on T3 actually. This is a misrep on my stance.

[Umlaut]

Arguing Flea could be scum is just absurd now tbh.

I kind of just want to lim Raya and worry about the rest ifwhen tomorrow comes. Really I don't see how anyone else is voted out today unless we let scum mess with our heads.