FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt - 2 Game Over
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Early on, I got the impression that Saber was a newbie that wore her heart on her sleeve. The way she talked about her role in the beginning of the game looked genuine to me, from both the fact she was not hesitant to qualify its power and her insistence that she had a duty to become the master. I was a bit disarmed and didn't think a newbie could make all that up out of whole cloth. By the time of the 2nd quote you mention, my opinion of saber's ability to actually analyze the game correctly and competently was low. However, that was in line with what I perceived her skill level to be and nothing she said was obviously scummy to me. It was only after I started to reread isos and have a deep think on the slot that my mind changed.In post 2748, Servant Lancer wrote:okay these are for assassin.
1. can you explain why you were townreading saber on D1?
Spoiler: relevant quotes
2.Spoiler: relevant quotes
did you mention me because I was someone that you would support getting master? if no, why mention me if you were still scumreading me? if yes, why?
As for your second question, I was making an observation, not an endorsement or an advertisement . I'm not sure why I even bothered saying that, other than to add context to where I thought the master selection could possibly go at that point, and who perhaps could get away with a bid naturally based on the gamestate at the time (you had townreads, berserker's were not yet established).
WIFOMIn post 2750, Servant Lancer wrote:this is @ both of you I guess: why do you think caster died last night instead of me?
I don't think there is or would be any significant difference in how e-lo would play out whether you or caster were here instead of the other. With caster dying Alter can throw up caster's last vote at crunch time. Its a perfect time to make stupid decisions. They would not be so impulsive today were they alive. At least I'd hope so, considering they previously thought Alter was scum when compared to beast/rider and the only thing that seemed to have swayed them was ATE, which should have been discarded in the first place.-
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Please take your time. I very much believe it's not a hard decision if you can decide calmly.In post 2749, Servant Lancer wrote:god my anxiety is through the roof. I am going to be so happy to put myself out of my misery.
I know because its practically the same one I made yesterday, and voting Alter over Caster wasn't hard. (It wasn'tcomfortable, but it wasn't agonizing).-
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I'm going to cut through a lot of the minutiae of this game to make what this choice is in simple terms.
It is your prerogative to think Alter's dayplay was better than my own. I freely admit it was, it was better than anyone's. The amount of effort Alter put into the game was unparalleled, they were on all scum eliminations, and I personally with a couple exceptions cannot find much to criticize. If you put that as a point in their favor I'd understand.
But the ones in mine should leave little room for doubt.
I was roleblocked by caster on a night 2, a night with a kill. Caster was not roleblocked by Archer on that night because they blocked Avenger night one 100%. The only way to get through that if I were scum would be if I had a strongman ability, or an ascetic ability, but the flipped scum already have those abilities.
My role has contributed to clearing a townie. Whether you think it was used optimally or not, the effect is the same. And it wasn't any old clear, it was clear at a latter day when mis-elimination options were limited and crucial for scum. And it was one that scum in my position could have easily avoided. Alter, for all their contributions, could not achieve this.
I will also mention here, though it's a less important point, that even yesterday I basically confirmed Caster as town by taking a stance first and voting Alter. Until that point it was obvious that Alter was gunning more for caster. If I was scum the safe option was just waiting out the timer.-
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She had started to suspect Assassin more, you were voting me. Most people have a very hard time re-calibrating their suspicions even after a nightkill and will talk themselves into their initial read.In post 2750, Servant Lancer wrote:this is @ both of you I guess: why do you think caster died last night instead of me?-
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I’m not sure I’ll ever get past the mech clear to voting assassin.
There’s also some stuff in the scum team’s ISO that makes me think they were trying to distance really hard from alter, in particular moon cancer scumreading and hardpushing alter and naming a POE of saber, foreigner, and alter. and I think the scum team would have played differently during the master selection phase if both assassin and saber were scum and competing for master
idk that’s where I’m at atm-
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With 3 servants alive, it will take 2 votes to burn a servant.
Assassin (1): Alter Ego
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Right, and you're alive because you made it obvious that's the way you were thinking yesterday.In post 2760, Servant Lancer wrote:I’m not sure I’ll ever get past the mech clear to voting assassin.
There’s also some stuff in the scum team’s ISO that makes me think they were trying to distance really hard from alter, in particular moon cancer scumreading and hardpushing alter and naming a POE of saber, foreigner, and alter. and I think the scum team would have played differently during the master selection phase if both assassin and saber were scum and competing for master
idk that’s where I’m at atm
The idea that moon was trying to distance from me is just dumb, though. He put me as his top scumreadbeforehe started bussing his teammates, when he was voting saber for master. The switch in reads was an obvious panic move when it became clear that Saber wasn't going to win the vote. To think that you'd have to believe he was trying to bus the objectively best positioned member of his team over anyone else. That's completely illogical.-
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With 3 servants alive, it will take 2 votes to burn a servant.
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The Servants lined up. The starter's gun fired. And then: pandemonium! A huge pile-up as everyone's shoelaces were tied together!
No, wait, this isn't The Darkest Timeline where deadline expired.
The Servants lined up. The starter's gun fired. And then the three racers were off, leaving cartoon-style dust clouds in their wake.
Atalanta lounged back in her chair. "Even for Servants a marathon will take some time. May as well take a load off."
The three Servants jostled for position as they took laps in and around the arena. Bottled mana was ready for them on a table near the course path, some very much needed energy boosts given the strenuous activity.
The race neared the finish line with a few laps to go. Servant Alter Ego was slightly in the lead, and as he reached the table, in one smooth motion he swiped all but one of the mana bottles down, leaving the last one to grab himself. The other two Servants stopped in their tracks.
"What do you think you're doing?" "How rude!" "That's not very honorable conduct here!"
Servant Alter Ego shrugged. "What? My hand slipped!" Her gaze shifted away from the other two when she saw they didn't buy it. "You can't take my Golden Apple for this!"
"Wanna bet?" Summer Meltryllis snapped her fingers, and one of herpenguinsleviathans darted forward, snatching Ashiya Dōman's Golden Apple from his hand and impaling it on its beak. The leviathan waddled over to Atalanta, who received the apple with all due gravity. She weighed it in her hand while staring at the three Servants.
But then only two. Ashiya Dōman sighed as she began to dematerialize. "So close to victory...hardly any distance intergalactically speaking..." And she was gone.
Osakabehime took a deep breath. "I think that was enough adventure for me for a year. Glad that's over. Arigathank you Meltyrllis for having my back!"
Meltyrllis looked at Servant Assassin coolly. "Are you still here? Don't you have an anime season to catch up on?" But there was a hint of smile on her face, even with her eyes hidden behind sunglasses and her parka shadowing her features.
Atalanta conjured up two wreathes and tossed them down to the living Servants. "I think you can both win this Festival, and we'll give credit to your dead friends too. I'm calling that a successful event; everyone pack up all your QP and get back to Chaldea. Singularities await!"
The crowd began to mobilize, but slowly, with lots of chatting.
"I can be nice. I'll let Nero sing for the Closing Ceremonies." She handed her the now-working microphone.
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Discussion of the crazy odds of assassin pulling that off and upcoming scummy nom.
Troll. You be nice to Lancer.
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