Double serial killer setups?

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Double serial killer setups?

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:05 am

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Has it been tried before?
I was thinking something like this:

Bulletproof Serial Killer [x2]

1-Shot Bulletproof Town Doctor [x1]
Vanilla Town [x10]

Modifiers: Doctor cannot self-target. If both serial killers targets doctor the doctor dies. (To disincentivize day 1 claiming)
SK’s can both win if they are in a position with equal or more votes than town.


I often hear a lot of people say that hunting serial killers are boring, but i think it could work if the setup is balanced properly.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:19 am

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Imo the problem with these kinds of setups is that it isn't really mafia anymore. There aren't really any associatives to work with, which is one of the most important parts of the game. Here, the serial killers don't know who each other are and can both "serial killer hunt" genuinely until one of them is dead.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:35 am

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I think Dwlee is exactly correct here.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:27 am

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What if they are informed of each other?
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:13 am

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Strange but the outcome isn't immediately obvious to me and I'll ponder it. I'm guessing bad though.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:14 am

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I mean they just cross kill n1 right?


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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:17 am

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If they can win together and are informed of each other they're just mafia with two kills.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:19 am

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In post 3, Cook wrote:What if they are informed of each other?
That’s not something they would be.
Of course they could figure it out and maybe even attempt to co-operate.
But no shared PT.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:20 am

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In post 1, Dwlee99 wrote:that it isn't really mafia anymore.
It’s still social deduction even without associatives to work with.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:31 am

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In post 6, Ythan wrote:If they can win together and are informed of each other they're just mafia with two kills.
they can't win together – they're SKs.

Now the SKs have mutual hate for each other and know the setup in full and as such we can draw associative tells based on their interactions but they can't directly X out each other or claim the other one's existence, as that dooms yourself or is futile (reverse respectively)
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:52 am

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In post 9, Cook wrote:they can't win together – they're SKs.
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