Large Normal 235: Large Normal With No Multiball [Game Over]

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VOTE: ArcAngel9 Long time no see!

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I noticed that the site meta has changed over time.

It used to be that power roles were helpful to the town, and that claims helped solve the game. This is no longer true.

I just finished playing Sybil's Elegy which was a great example of the role distribution being designed to confuse at best, and F up at worse, the town. I have played others with similar anti-town mod shenanigans.

Here's the deal.

We should not claim, ever.

Treating the game as mountainous will increase our chances of winning.

What we should do (and I include vanilla townies) is to crumb our night choices somehow BEFORE the night. Vanilla townies must crumb fake targets.

When you're dead, and we know your role and alignment, we can go back and use the crumbs for the solve.

Solving games by way of RESULTS and CLAIMED ROLES will not work. It just doesn't work anymore.

VOTE: DGB

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

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I'll be using a system I have used in other games in this game. I believe Norweigh is familiar with it since I used it in a game we played together.

LOCKTOWN

TMI?

I'm gunna veto this, but still read it as Townie.

Scum?

BUDDIES?

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Pressure on T3 isn't a bad idea, but he's more likely to sort himself for us. If he's scum he'll likely out himself the longer the game goes on, and he's likely to form incriminating associatives as well.

Can't say I'm good at actually reading him, but I've played enough games with him that I kinda know his meta. It's generally detrimental to scum to keep him around regardless of his alignment.

You're suggesting that "the longer the game goes on, and he's likely to form incriminating associatives" is a characteristic of T3 and not every player out there, so we should give T3 special treatment - only pressure, but

not eliminate

?

I'll figure out what this all means as soon as I finish scraping my brain matter from the walls.

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ayo wtf my mans dgb been here since 2005???

Not something I'm proud of.

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I'm panicking that you already figured out the scum team

VOTE: Roden

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I'm panicking that you already figured out the scum team

VOTE: Roden

Nero associative?

Bad fake scum hunting?

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DGB I wanna avoid baselessly fighting with you this time around, considering Dwlee is in this game and I expect to argue with them as some point too. So I'll just give you my scum games so you can meta me if that makes things easier. If you still wanna fight then at least give me something with substance.

Scum games are Newbie 2066, 2070, and 2073. Everyone else is free to do homework as well if they want.

Meta is rubbish.

- DGB in every game meta is brought up.

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I feel like a good chunk of the game thus far is just reactionary sus posting
VOTE: dwlee
As you’re the one I can recall doing so that I haven’t seen anything good from yet

i feel like im leaning dwlee town just because his first opening post saying nobody should claim was so out there and attention grabbing i have a hard time believing a scum dwlee would do it

You fell for copypasta.

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Urge to vote Nero rising...

Chicken scum.

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I'm liking Dragon of the West for town.

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DGB is your vote on Roden srs?

Yes.

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Yeah Nero is town.

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I'm panicking that you already figured out the scum team

VOTE: Roden

Because Roden is telling the truth in this post.

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I'm waiting for Koba's inevitable alt slip

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Town Nero doesn’t do x!!!

What's with the snit fit?

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I'm panicking that you already figured out the scum team

VOTE: Roden

Because Roden is telling the truth in this post.

Shrek/Roden? Or just Roden?

You can be town.

Roden more strongly, Shrek a bit less.

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I feel like I’m more familiar with your relationship with Nero and I also think Nero is scummy
So I’m a bit concerned you’re trying attack Cheeky’s ability to read you two

What is scummy?

It doesn’t carry much of the energy I remember from LN 230 or 231
Both of those games Nero felt very passionate, albeit in different aspects. Here he feels a bit deflated.

I'm tempted to trust Gamma on this.

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can someone summarize the cases against nero and t3 again for me plox

It's like a Greyhound station at 7 AM.

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can someone summarize the cases against nero and t3 again for me plox

I honestly can't imagine scum posting mid readthrough like this.

What do you mean?
Scum can’t post midways through their catch up?

I feel like scum would want to look at the current dynamics of the game before posting. Also the content feels more like a legitimate question from a town than someone with an agenda due to its weird roundabout nature. Scum certainly could post mid readthrough, but I feel like that's more of a townie thing, especially with something like that.

I'm town binning this player.

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can someone summarize the cases against nero and t3 again for me plox

I honestly can't imagine scum posting mid readthrough like this.

What do you mean?
Scum can’t post midways through their catch up?

I feel like scum would want to look at the current dynamics of the game before posting. Also the content feels more like a legitimate question from a town than someone with an agenda due to its weird roundabout nature. Scum certainly could post mid readthrough, but I feel like that's more of a townie thing, especially with something like that.

Yeah Nero is town.

How does it feel to have a wrong opinion?

Very normal for me.

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Town DGB spends a lot of time being aggressive and scumreading people for non thought out reasons. Town!DGB sometimes townreads when prompted and it's usualy a blanket read without any specific reasoning. I have yet to find ascum!DGB game but this has been true of DGB in Townstumps, Mini Normal 2196, Large Normal 233 and Large Normal 232.

T3 is town, why take time to metadive someone only to come up with "inconclusive?" Lack of scumgenda here.

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Town DGB spends a lot of time being aggressive and scumreading people for non thought out reasons. Town!DGB sometimes townreads when prompted and it's usualy a blanket read without any specific reasoning. I have yet to find ascum!DGB game but this has been true of DGB in Townstumps, Mini Normal 2196, Large Normal 233 and Large Normal 232.

I'm letting you give your arguement before picking a side, though I admit odds don't seem in your favor.

See if Nero actually has some good points against cheeky here before piling on them though.

here mega, who isn't scum reading me, expresses interest in joining the largest wagon.

I'm letting you give your arguement before picking a side,

though I admit odds don't seem in your favor

Why do u have to pick a side? if cheeky and I were TvT as I now think then it makes a ton of sense to pit me vs. her and chain elim. bolded is still threatning to wagon the biggest wagon.

you are just trying to start a push on a townie for no reason

tmi slip?

Also its not like I'm a contentless void. Why do you need to use my cheeky reasoning to sort me. Why not my reasoning for anyone else?

Hmmmm

Liking this for town, maybe. Maybe.

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last night I sorta thought about t3 doing some reaction test type push but if he's not then its fake bravado and he's likely scum.

Can you expand on that? I feel that there is an unexplained level of complexity underneath this thought.

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last night I sorta thought about t3 doing some reaction test type push but if he's not then its fake bravado and he's likely scum.

Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox

This is amazing. I wish it was about me, I'd totally sig that.

I will after two conditions are satisfied. (1) the game is over and (2) someone explains to me what it means.

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mega - comes in hot and asking questions which is something i rarely see scum doing if at all.

scum asking questions is a great way to look busy

true i guess im just biased against people who dont contribute any info at all rather than those who do ask questions. because questions that people ask can be indicative of their alignment while posting a video or giving lazy reads doesnt really do anything

looking at your reasoning for mega i think i can see it though. his posts have given me a bit of a hedgy vibe to them and it feels like hes trying not to commit too hard to anything which i dislike. i had him leaning town but i think hes null for me at this point given what youve said

This feels like an awkward scum backtrack.

I continue to like Nero's response to pressure. He's using that pressure to find scum which is a town lean for me.

Unfortunately Nero once totally snowed me as scum so there is a price to pay I don't trust my own read.

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Weird vibe, especially since I only asked to wait on voting you until after you gave the reasons you already said you were going to post.
If you don't give reasons/the reasons feel fabricated it feels you are just trying to start a push on a townie for no reason, which would definitely seem more scum than town.

you are just trying to start a push on a townie for no reason

tmi slip?

This is blatant quote doctoring.

VOTE: Nero

Highlighting =/= doctoring

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Town DGB spends a lot of time being aggressive and scumreading people for non thought out reasons. Town!DGB sometimes townreads when prompted and it's usualy a blanket read without any specific reasoning. I have yet to find ascum!DGB game but this has been true of DGB in Townstumps, Mini Normal 2196, Large Normal 233 and Large Normal 232.

T3 is town, why take time to metadive someone only to come up with "inconclusive?" Lack of scumgenda here.

The fact you townread them for metadiving is exactly why.

WIFOM'ing another player's town read?

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

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I DECLARE A TOWNBLOC!

T3, LQ, CheekyTeeky, Meg, and NorweiganboyEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This isn't half bad. Norwee read a bit hasty, but a lean there is acceptable for now.

I feel like Mega is doing all the things that town naturally do, like pushing and prodding players for content and trying to get something from the low posters. Mega is definitely locktown for me.

LQ is always a bit curly for me and I feel like they're almost too friendly to be town since I remember them being quite short and assertive as town. Could be old meta but a slot I'd keep an eye on.

T3 could be doing a common noob scum play where they focus solely on scumreading one slot to look like they're scumhunting, plus not giving away too much. I've never played with them before though so I'm not quite sure of their range. I'm pretty confident that T3 vs Nero is SvT and if either flips green the other will flip red.

Should CheekyTeeky flip red, Mega is green. It's got that easy peasy confidence of scum townreading a townie.

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maybe this idk. dgb not tunnelingg me like normal is creepy. also big vibe that DGB is scum with Mega.

Funny, I was worried about you not tunneling me.

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You're pushing a false narrative that Mega wants you bussed

Wait, what?
What does that mean.

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One of my weird ways of scumhunting is to look into the first 3 posters in each game, as these have been proven -statistically- to have 1 scum in them more often than not. However, this tool has failed me of late, and even if it's true here; the first 3 were STD (who hasn't given me much yet), ArcAngel (who isn't really playing the game), Dwlee (whom I seem to always have trouble reading as his Town and Scum play are almost identical).

oh no not that nonsense

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Gonna add that you're also sheeping Norway even though they voted you. You only seem to care about why I specifically voted you.

My scum read on Roden is dissipating.

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The following block of Norwee/T3/Meg/DGB/Gamma/Shrek/Roden should contain 1-2 scums in it, while Dwlee/DotW/STD/Testa/Kitty/Arc should contain the other 2-1.

Can you go over why you think these blocks in particular?

ACTIVITY. When there are 3 scums it's usually the case one is hyperactive, one is mildly active, and one is lurking. With 4 scums I just added the extra slot to either the mildly active group or the lurking group. Nothing is carved in stone though.

Also, this game feels like it needs a breakthrough. The "right" flip here could make the game much easier for us, while the wrong one could send us down in spirals. I'm watching the multiple 1-on-1's with some interest, but not much judgement for the time being.

Strong vibes of a "system to beat the casinos."

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Yep DGB is town

Because they're throwing out town reads?

It's so cute, my scum read is jelly of my town reads

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Dwlee hasn't attempted to sheep obvscum yet, which is worrying.

Nero is sheeping obvscum CheekyTeeky, does that mean anything?

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{LicketyQuickety, Roden, MegAzumarill, NorwegianboyEE}
{Gamma Emerald, Shrek, Dwlee99}
{Almost50, KittyTacky, ArcAngel9, Save The Dragons}
{Testarossa, Dragon of the West}
{DrippingGoofball, T3}{Nero Cain}

This is where I'm at currently.

why am i still scum

This sounds a little bit like scum asking player he knows is town a question.

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Feel free to join on DGB, they're warm and squishy to sit on.

Cheeky Teeky using repetition as a means to create a charismawagon.

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I should just ditch this game for a bit

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo don't go!!!!!!!!!!!

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Like T3 did kinda sorta Town tell recently and I feel like Cheeky is ignoring that.

What town tells is Cheeky ignoring?

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Gonna add that you're also sheeping Norway even though they voted you. You only seem to care about why I specifically voted you.

My scum read on Roden is dissipating.

Ok i wanna vote Tests again.
VOTE: Testarossa

Who is that? A player in this game?

VOTE: Testarossa

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Nero you keep acting as if my reads are final. They are a starting point that I find very useful to gather reads from. It just seems like you're scumplaining.

"First I have reads, and I use those reads to get reads."

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Like T3 did kinda sorta Town tell recently and I feel like Cheeky is ignoring that.

What town tells is Cheeky ignoring?

Why does it feel like you’re playing both sides here?

NO U

I'm just wondering which T3 town tells are so universally obvious that a player not noticing them would have to be scum pretending.

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LURKSACK SCOREBOARD

KittyTacky 6
Testarossa 6
ArcAngel9 2

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A three-way race!

Testarossa (5) - Shrek, NorwegianboyEE, Roden, CheekyTeeky, DrippingGoofball
Nero Cain (4) - ArcAngel9, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill
T3 (4) - Dwlee99, Almost50, Nero Cain, LicketyQuickety

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Sometimes lurksacks are just lurksacks.

We're not going to forget they exist because they're lurking. That's the point.

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Large normal 233 dunno how to c+p on mobile

"We once miseliminated a lurker; henceforth, let's townbin them all!"

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VOTE: T3

Testarossa (5) - Shrek, NorwegianboyEE, Roden, CheekyTeeky, DrippingGoofball
Nero Cain (4) - ArcAngel9, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill
T3 (4) - Dwlee99, Almost50, Nero Cain, LicketyQuickety

Cheeky's vote shifts the lead from Testarosss to T3.

T3 (5) - Dwlee99, Almost50, Nero Cain, LicketyQuickety, CheekyTeeky
Testarossa (4) - Shrek, NorwegianboyEE, Roden, DrippingGoofball
Nero Cain (4) - ArcAngel9, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill

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VOTE: T3

Testarossa (5) - Shrek, NorwegianboyEE, Roden, CheekyTeeky, DrippingGoofball
Nero Cain (4) - ArcAngel9, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill
T3 (4) - Dwlee99, Almost50, Nero Cain, LicketyQuickety

Cheeky's vote shifts the lead from Testarossa to T3.

T3 (5) - Dwlee99, Almost50, Nero Cain, LicketyQuickety, CheekyTeeky
Testarossa (4) - Shrek, NorwegianboyEE, Roden, DrippingGoofball
Nero Cain (4) - ArcAngel9, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill

Dragon of the West emerges from the hellhole of unvoters to solidify T3's lead on the other wagons:

T3 (6) - Dwlee99, Almost50, Nero Cain, LicketyQuickety, CheekyTeeky, Dragon of the West
Testarossa (4) - Shrek, NorwegianboyEE, Roden, DrippingGoofball
Nero Cain (4) - ArcAngel9, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill

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I actually think StD is town here compared to that scumgame.

StD is probably scum for being townread this early, I mean, whoever townreads StD?

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That Tess locktown just came too early

Hey maybe it's role related

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Or maybe dgb is scum and that makes roden town...

I'm town so what is the probably that Roden is scum {0,1}?

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Your play just seems so different this game

People say that about me in every game.

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This is cool but please spare us the play-by-play

I will do as I please, you are not the gatekeeper of my posts.

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gamma is getting away with an equally (and maybe even worse) "meta" read

That's rich.

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gamma is getting away with an equally (and maybe even worse) "meta" read

That's rich.

How so?

You routinely get away with bad meta reads.

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gamma is getting away with an equally (and maybe even worse) "meta" read

That's rich.

How so?

This is cool but please spare us the play-by-play

I will do as I please, you are not the gatekeeper of my posts.

You literally went over the same point twice in two consecutive posts
If you’re going to do that, do that in private rather than spamming the thread with it

The repetition was a clerical error.

Is the play by play making your scumpals nervous?

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Why don’t you think scum bring attention to it?

I am providing incentives for the scum to bus. Do I have to spell it out?

NARATOR: It needed to spell it out.

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Maybs it's just T3, Kitty, Testa and a mystery scumbutt like AA9.

@Gamma
Meaning i like voting any of these slots better for today.

I endorse this product/service.

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Maybs it's just T3, Kitty, Testa and a mystery scumbutt like AA9.

@Gamma
Meaning i like voting any of these slots better for today.

Arc and kitty are both hard null 4 me. Tess is the scummiest of the lurkers but eh

They don't even have a dozen posts, where does the "hard" come from?

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I feel like I want to go here now:

VOTE: ArcAngel9

I like this in principle. However, THIS is why I am hesitant to make a move on Arc so early. I would rather let her be sorted by night action if at all possible, but I won't be defending her either.

How is that not squandering night actions?

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Spoiler:

I'm just putting it out there for the scum team's benefit.

@CheekyTeeky re:846

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I think it's time to rock A50s boat a little but it'll have to wait until morning.

Funny I was just thinking that last night and got distracted, but im6not too concerned with him since I've seen him be very active and disruptive as scum.

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A50's shtick about the first three players in the game thread leans ever so slightly townie, it's complete nonsense but why would he go on and on about this as scum, it's not even good WIFOM.

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I feel like I want to go here now:

VOTE: ArcAngel9

I like this in principle. However, THIS is why I am hesitant to make a move on Arc so early. I would rather let her be sorted by night action if at all possible, but I won't be defending her either.

How is that not squandering night actions?

Better than wasting a lim on her if she’s town

That's how we end up with non-participating conftowns...

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I mean it is gamma but I doubt we could get that today. T3/tess/policy lim on aa9 might be my elim order for today

That would require these players to move their votes:

T3 (6) - Dwlee99, Almost50, Nero Cain, LicketyQuickety, CheekyTeeky, Dragon of the West [E-3]
Nero Cain (4) -

ArcAngel9, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill

Testarossa (3) - Shrek, NorwegianboyEE, DrippingGoofball
Save The Dragons (1) -

Testarossa

Gamma Emerald (1) -

Save The Dragons

Shrek (1) -

Roden

ArcAngel9 (0) - this space for rent

Not voting:

KittyTacky

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Yeah but if we get innos on inactives then it forces scum to nk them

Claim mason with aa9 and say that aa9 is a mason vig.

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Last Testarossa post was in page 8.

Testarossa is the correct choice for today's game rapture.

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Last Testarossa post was in page 8.

Testarossa avoiding the pressure.

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Real talk though, "stop the spam" and "I don't know" are pretty underwhelming for a comeback

I agree.

VOTE: T3

Rapture minus 2.

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UNVOTE: T3

Nope. Don't like it anymore.

Why.

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Feels like it's too easy.

Maybe the scum is bus'ing.

It's only E-2

What's your problem?

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And T3 is still posting so

And what is this? We can't eliminate a player that posts, even if the posts in this case are empty?

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If you're looking for a wagon with a lot of resistance, look no further than Testarossa. If you need a reminder look at my scumputer play-by-play.

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bc I'm scum reading him he's still scum reading me.

This isn’t the case
I think your scum read on me is bs, which makes you scum
I don’t think you’d actually expect me to struggle to make reads as scum or believe I wouldn’t whiteknight as town

Nero makes BS cases on me in every game, BS Nero cases aren't AI.

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If you're looking for a wagon with a lot of resistance, look no further than Testarossa. If you need a reminder look at my scumputer play-by-play.

You just voted T3 and I'm trying to figure how that factors into what you are saying here. A little help on your reasoning would be great.

I've been townreading T3 but I could be wrong. I want to shake the tree to see what fruit falls to the ground.

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If you're looking for a wagon with a lot of resistance, look no further than Testarossa. If you need a reminder look at my scumputer play-by-play.

You just voted T3 and I'm trying to figure how that factors into what you are saying here. A little help on your reasoning would be great.

I've been burnt with Nero bad town play before. I've also been burnt by Nero good scum play.

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Also, no it was definitely not too early to tell.

Dude I had made 3 posts when I voted me and then you later argued that I hadn't wall posted yet (0n like page 3 or w/e it was)

That vote was me sheping Roden.

this was the post that turned on the lightbulb of "T3 might have been bussing Nero"

And Nero would fend him off in the game thread?

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Dgb u normally tunnel me while I find scum so u don't get to talk down to me. Also good chance you are scum this game

First, I'm town. Second, I am not tunneling you because I learn from my mistakes. Third, you've often wrongly tunneled on me, so I get to talk smack.

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Recently I've switched to lazy mode for reasons I cant disclose

SCUMVID-19

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If t3 wagon won't happen I am convinced by Nero's case here ftr and willing to kill Gamma ftr.

Gamma I think you're being trolled

Scumposts. Dwlee knows Gamma is Town.

hmmmm thinking

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What if Gamma/Nero/T3 are all town? Where be the scums?

Testarossa

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you do make a good point though and i feel like with testa requesting a replacement its not really worth it to keep a vote on her atm

VOTE: Testarossa

You all know how I feel.

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Scums last ditch effort to get a not t3 wagon?

Who stopped the T3 wagon in its tracks? Check it out.

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Here, Nero.

UNVOTE: T3

Nope. Don't like it anymore.

Why.

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VOTE: gamma
Can't say why but this is almost 100% scum.

Even with skimming this toxic 1v1 I started to get this vibe.

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Tbf I only tunnel u bc u tunnel me and u defend scum. I think it's more likely that u are just scum than "learned from it mistakes" but eh we'll see how flips go

I don't always tunnel you... in fact I've defended you many times.

You on the other hand never fail to tunnel me. No complaints, though, there are benefits to being scumread. You do you, don't mind me.

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What if Gamma/Nero/T3 are all town? Where be the scums?

Testarossa

Vote Gamma.
:beg:

Still catching up.

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you do make a good point though and i feel like with testa requesting a replacement its not really worth it to keep a vote on her atm

VOTE: Testarossa

You all know how I feel.

Scums last ditch effort to get a not t3 wagon?

Who stopped the T3 wagon in its tracks? Check it out.

I mean... you were voting T3 too?

Yes, I put him at E-2 and *someone* decided the wagon was too easy and put him back at E-3.

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dgb do you scumread mega atm?

I really don't.

But as I always say. If you want to practice your scum game, don't sign up for a

new game

. That's why the Testarossa vote stays.

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But as I always say. If you want to practice your scum game, don't sign up for a new game.

literally never heard you say this, but what does it mean?

If you want to practice your scum game,

don't

sign up for a

new game

.

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DBG if you are SRing me for getting off T3 please just say so, else I kinda do feel like you are playing both sides (what Gamma said).

I am not SRing you for it.

I am pointing out to Nero that he is not applying the same criteria to different players.

If someone put the brakes on the T3 wagon, it's you, not me.

Of course I'm playing "both sides" I am town and I don't know who are in the sides.

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okay
how would you practice your scumgame then?

By signing up for a game that is already ongoing.

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I mostly just want this broken down for SCIENCE

Not here and not now.

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alright, I can wait
I'd possibly vote Testa but I'm kinda sick of getting told I'm going after the popular option

It's not a popular option.

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dgb do you scumread mega atm?

I really don't.

But as I always say. If you want to practice your scum game, don't sign up for a

new game

. That's why the Testarossa vote stays.

what do you think of the case on him at least?

It didn't make a strong impression on me because while I remember its existence, I have forgotten its content.

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i would at least encourage you to do a look at mega's iso to see what you think atm because he's gotten surprisingly little attention thus far

ok brb

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i would at least encourage you to do a look at mega's iso to see what you think atm because he's gotten surprisingly little attention thus far

Yeah, I could see it. Lots of questions with no follow up. The only strong opinion is that Testarossa is town.

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extremely accurate meta scum read

Convince us.

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This is the second time to my noting that you've been open to a meta point (my first one I noticed being when you took my Nero meta in mind). Despite this you think meta is trash. Are you like Reck who thinks meta is trash the way most people use it?

There is a claim that this particular meta read is EXTREMELY ACCURATE which piques my curiosity.

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Like I know I'm tunneling but it just feels like dgb and gamma are holding out hope that they won't have to bus t3 bc it feels like there's a good chunk of town that might not vote him idk

Please comment on Liquety putting the brakes on the T3 wagon that I was already riding.

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he’s pretty clearly using ongoing game meta to do it

...and Dwlee?

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Like I know I'm tunneling but it just feels like dgb and gamma are holding out hope that they won't have to bus t3 bc it feels like there's a good chunk of town that might not vote him idk

Please comment on Liquety putting the brakes on the T3 wagon that I was already riding.

This is scum saying "hey look over there"

Answer the question, stop dodging and weaseling out of it. It's my second attempt.

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I don't particularly feel like what lq has done is as scummy as u.

You're going to have to put some facts behind your feels.

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I don't think Scum!T3 posts this way

Agreed.

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Last game A50 was scum and he said in the scum PT to his teammates to not be one of the first 3 posters - an A50 scumflip would possibly clear the first 3 posters.

OH
WELL

isn't that special

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Does anyone but A50 subscribe to this voodoo?

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F
VOTE: t3
I still don't know what I did wrong...

This is scum
Scum selfvote, town selfhammer

Hi I'm DrippingGoofball

'member me?

[DrippingGoofball]

Whut

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Town self-votes, scum self-hammers.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hi

[DrippingGoofball]

I have a guilty result.

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I am a 1-shot Loyal Neighborizer.

Normally I would have gunned for a scumread but because I was under fire yesterday I decided to target someone with more town cred than me (but not a likely NK target). I was hoping to gain a partner help conftown me and be useful during day chat.

My action was successful but here I am without a Neighbor or PT.

Guess who is widely town read, but is in fact Scummy McScummerson?

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T3 was a push by town as far as I can read it. He self-destructed is all. Any scum on the wagon just followed along.

I disagree.

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T3 was a push by town as far as I can read it. He self-destructed is all. Any scum on the wagon just followed along.

My action was successful but

Also I'm confused how you know this

Straight from the mod.

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And yeah, just tell us who, there are several widely-townread slots. Ambiguity helps nobody here, the mafia knows you're likely an investigative anyways now.

That sounds like something scum would say.

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Are you also a checker? That isn't how NRG works on loyal.

I received no acknowledgement of my action, I thought the mod might have made a mistake, so I asked.

You remind me of scum!MathBlade casting doubt on my cop-guilty result in another game. Are you scum, Dwlee?

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LOL no surprise, KittyTacky is scum.

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DIE SCUM DIE

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aRrrrrRrrrRrRRRRRRight

ArcAngel is town. Look at her join date... I've played many games with her.

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Are you also a checker? That isn't how NRG works on loyal.

I received no acknowledgement of my action, I thought the mod might have made a mistake, so I asked.

You remind me of scum!MathBlade casting doubt on my cop-guilty result in another game. Are you scum, Dwlee?

The mod can't tell you if your action succeeded, only if it was received.

I'm not "casting doubt" I'm getting clarification because the way you described it is not how it works. If you knew your action succeeded it goes to a hard guilty instead of a soft guilty (cause the action could have been roleblocked)

My bad. I made a mistake in my interpretation.

The link to the neighborhood PT was in my role PM, which I did not notice.

I was expecting to receive a message from the mod regarding my action in the game morn, with a PT if successful (i had forgotten there was already a PT).

The mod did not understand why I was confused in my messages so we were communicating at cross-purposes for while.

So, sigh, now I have to explain that my action succeeded in the sense that the player i targeted was added to that PT (which i didn't notice because i had forgotten its existence) and is in fact town.

If you didn't ask so many questions it could have been a great accidental gambit

I'd probably speed-raptured for this but luckily there is a player that can vouch for me.

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VOTE: Cyrus
I guess this isn't getting vigged so it is death time

I'm on this like white on rice.

VOTE: cyrus62

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The top two wagons are probably on scum.

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Cyrus is scum. It's very simple.

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i feel like cyrus is being set up to be mis elimed

cyrus plays very wacky

I think his 2094 may come from town. Maybe.

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I'm thinking the scum team consists of some combination of {StD/Gamma/Arc/Mega/Dwlee/Cyrus}, and at this point we absolutely need to boot either StD Mega or Cyrus.

why can't we lim my "scum buddy" gamma

STD can be town.

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Also Cyrus is lying about not being here last night. The deadline was frozen until Cyrus replaced in so a theroretical scum Cyrus would have been here during the night and had input on the nk

this is true so if i had made a kill it would be a pr

who do you think the prs are then? are you saying you know at least one pr?

prs are easy to spot you just have to know what your looking for and yes i know at least one.

It sounds like there was PR talk in the scum PT.

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DGB might be an idea to tell us who you're targeting so if you get NK'd LQ can confirm if it worked.

I am 1 shot.

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I've seen scum neighborizer do this EXACT play before ftr. In Yggdrasil, Something_Smart was disloyal neighborizer and fake claimed loyal neighborizer. I feel like the way DGB approached its claim mostly benefits it if it is scum, but it's also possible it is just them derping.

You'll never be wrong to assume I am derping.

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DGB might be an idea to tell us who you're targeting so if you get NK'd LQ can confirm if it worked.

I am 1 shot.

LQ said you claimed 2shot in pt?

Damn

I said 1 shot in this thread but I told her the truth in the PT because I know she's town and now she ruined my gambit. F

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Now I am going to get NK'd.

That was stupid, LQ

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I mean, it guess it's not impossible that dgb is town but dgb playing so differently from their town games freaks me out

I play different in every game.

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Now I am going to get NK'd.

That was stupid, LQ

You know, it kinda was. But given my role, I thought (at the time) your role didn't line up with mine.

I don't even know your role, I was just checking on mobile and saw the mess you made that will lead to me being NK'd and losing my second shot.

Shame on me for trusting you and shame on you for betraying me.

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DGB why did you claim your power role I thought that was a no-no.

As this clusterfuck demonstrates, I shouldn't have bothered even sending in an action and just kept my mouth shut. Power roles are a fookcing curse.

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I mean, sorry I guess. I didn't know you wouldn't get another shot.

How could you not know claiming 2-shot on Day 2 wouldn't lead to my NK?????????????????????????????????????????????

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Now I have to search for LQ's accursed claim where the F is it

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Dgb claimed 1x.

Claimed what now?

He claimed he was 2 shot to me.

I am skeptical for 2 reasons:

He claimed loyal.

I am a backup Neighborizer and it does not indicate at all that I am X-shot.

SERIOUSLY HOW COULD YOU NOT PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER

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Couldn't you have run this by me in the PT??????????????????????????????????

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I just think the way you've been playing feels a little weird for conftown what with how much you've been pushing for DGB's death

NO SHIT

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I really picked the wrong townie to target.

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DGB might be an idea to tell us who you're targeting so if you get NK'd LQ can confirm if it worked.

If I'm NK'd the action will not go through, so it's pointless. I'm either going to be NK'd or RB'd, thanks LQ.

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You know, it kinda was. But given my role, I thought (at the time) your role didn't line up with mine.

NEVER,

EVER

do setup speculation. It's always designed to mess with us.

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yeah killing is low on the NAR and it shouldn't stop a neighborize if it's adding to the same hood (which by the fact the hood was around from the start is the logical assumption)

Fingers crossed, I'm no NAR expert.

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Y not just use both your shots B4 claiming?

Because DGB didn't realize how stupid I was.

We have a PT... why couldn't we have discussed it in the PT...........

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I can only say I am stupid so many times, DGB.

Aw, hugs, don't beat yourself up. I'm "game-upset" not "real-upset." Game-upset is part of the fun.

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Can you ask the mod? I feel like that should be an allowed question. I'm pretty sure the neighborize should still work even if your NK'd

Can we ask in-thread as a theoretical?

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Someone claim JK and get shot instead? A50 where you at?

Creative people have entered the chat

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Arcangel miht have crumbed Doctor.

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The answer is yes. Killing happens at the end of NAR and people trying to confirm this are ruffling my feathers because I feel like you're trying to dumbtell this

Likely but we need it confirmed because if DGB targets scum and dies it'll get messy.

I just checked, my role PM doesn't say I die if I hit scum, only that the action will fail.

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I've been nightkilled by a vigilante on replace in, didn't even post in the thread. Nightkilled by a different scum faction (who I guess thought I was town? at least?). And nightkilled by Nero thinking I was scum. Just let me die

So you want to die an honorable death, shot by scum in the middle of the night and as a confirmed townie?

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Dwlee is already conftown.

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Dwlee is already conftown.

actuallly how

I have bestowed the status.

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I think we give MegA like 8 hours and lim them if they don't show. DGB who will you target?

LQ or I will reveal it tomorrow.

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I SAID DWLEE IS TOWN

RODEN IS ALSO TOWN

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Is gamma town?

There's a chance he isn't.

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VOTE: Shrek

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Cheeky Teeky is gambiting scum.

We targeted Shrek, and Shrek didn't join the neighborhood which means Shrek is scum.

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Oh I lied about being in the hood as a gambit to make scum night kill me. If DGB is actually disloyal then we yeet em.

I got an inno and a guilty.

Shrek's was actually LQ's idea.

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Trolling scum enters the chat

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Oh I lied about being in the hood as a gambit to make scum night kill me. If DGB is actually disloyal then we yeet em.

You're town to me. There was no point targeting someone who was begging to be investigated.

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Today is a Gladiate! Pick a side or be doomed!

Shrek dies today, you die tomorrow.

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Is DGB actually Ascetic?

Cheeky is confessing a red PM today.

I'm not ascetic.

I am a proven neighborizer, and Shrek is scum. Shrek was targeted but was not added to the hood.

It's all very simple.

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Did you target them?

Do not answer the scum.

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I just do. I'll explain before day end.

I am not Ascetic, Cheeky is straight up lying scum.

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PLEASE STOP ENTERTAINING CHEEKY's BRAZEN ROLEFISHING.

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i KNOW what you are thinking that i am mega sus for not joining your hood but i have a PR that explains it. not sure if i should claim now or later when im endangered but i completely understand where dgb/lq are coming from so do NOT get on them either just yet

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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What if cheeky were blocked?

She said I'm disloyal, so she's plain lying scum.

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i should claim now

yes

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Roden is town.

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Between Dwlee, Roden, LQ and myself we have a 4-person townbloc.

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Are you Ascetic?

I already answered that, scum.

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I'm really confused that my role failed if DGB is not ascetic because theres zero reason scum would have RB'd me last night.

You claimed I was disloyal so that is BS.

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@DGB: Did you get a no result PM?

I got nothin'

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fuck it ill claim but just to stop the gladiating

cheeky dgb isnt ascetic. im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action last night which means it was either rbed or is lying about what it is

I doubt I was roleblocked since I was probably the NK.

I don't believe a town tracker would track me since LQ is there to confirm my action.

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fuck it ill claim but just to stop the gladiating

cheeky dgb isnt ascetic. im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action last night which means it was either rbed or is lying about what it is

VOTE: almost50

sure im up for some pressure

We should have just prob killed mega yesterday

tbh i agree with this. the last minute claim was sus as hell

put me up if you want but im legitimately town. personally my choices for a lim today would be mega/kitty/a50. i KNOW what you are thinking that i am mega sus for not joining your hood but i have a PR that explains it. not sure if i should claim now or later when im endangered but i completely understand where dgb/lq are coming from so do NOT get on them either just yet

Zero mention of DGB getting no result. Shrek never even saw it coming.

Very very good catch.

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fuck it ill claim but just to stop the gladiating

cheeky dgb isnt ascetic. im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action last night which means it was either rbed or is lying about what it is

VOTE: almost50

sure im up for some pressure

We should have just prob killed mega yesterday

tbh i agree with this. the last minute claim was sus as hell

put me up if you want but im legitimately town. personally my choices for a lim today would be mega/kitty/a50. i KNOW what you are thinking that i am mega sus for not joining your hood but i have a PR that explains it. not sure if i should claim now or later when im endangered but i completely understand where dgb/lq are coming from so do NOT get on them either just yet

Zero mention of DGB getting no result. Shrek never even saw it coming.

I opened today saying DGB is disloyal ascetic and Nero says I was probably roleblocked which is TMI because I could have been a town rolecop to gain that information, since Nero tried to explain why my action failed means he knew I was accusing DGB of being Ascetic because my role failed. In conclusion, Nero is the scummiest scumbutt that ever scummed.

Hmmmm *thinking*

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fuck it ill claim but just to stop the gladiating

cheeky dgb isnt ascetic. im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action last night which means it was either rbed or is lying about what it is

VOTE: almost50

sure im up for some pressure

We should have just prob killed mega yesterday

tbh i agree with this. the last minute claim was sus as hell

put me up if you want but im legitimately town. personally my choices for a lim today would be mega/kitty/a50. i KNOW what you are thinking that i am mega sus for not joining your hood but i have a PR that explains it. not sure if i should claim now or later when im endangered but i completely understand where dgb/lq are coming from so do NOT get on them either just yet

Zero mention of DGB getting no result. Shrek never even saw it coming.

I opened today saying DGB is disloyal ascetic and Nero says I was probably roleblocked which is TMI because I could have been a town rolecop to gain that information, since Nero tried to explain why my action failed means he knew I was accusing DGB of being Ascetic because my role failed. In conclusion, Nero is the scummiest scumbutt that ever scummed.

I could see a scum!tracker trying to figure out who was targeted by DGB and being prevented by a town rolestopper, but town rolestopper seems like a lot of power in addition to the bodyguard.

The target would have been revealed today no matter what, though.

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Honestly through the night phase I was getting shaky boots about cheeky and this really isn't helping

I am still reeling that CheekyTeeky came out of the gate saying I am disloyal.

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I also want Mega's results

Agreed. No lynch until we get that result.

Stop saying that word!!!!!!

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Honestly through the night phase I was getting shaky boots about cheeky and this really isn't helping

Yeah there was something I read after the thread lock that pinged me quite badly

What was that?

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@Shrek - who did you target N1 and what was the result?

Anyone who claims a PR and a N2 target, and doesn't also claim their N1 target is suspect.

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How did you get a result but cheeky and Shrek didn't

Cheeky and Shrek are lying scum?

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Assuming DGB is town, Cheeky/Shrek is always T/S, because either one roleblocked DGB or Shrek is just scum and they are the only visits.

Yeah I guess.

But Cheeky's first theory was to claim I am "disloyal" which is not congruent with their claim.

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The only player I trust to make sense of this nest of vipers is Dwlee.

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What is Cheeky's final claim?

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im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action

This action makes the least sense.

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im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action

This action makes the least sense.

Shrek is desperate scum trying to 1v1 the townie with a guilty on them.

Can you imagine being a tracker and not mentioning your Night 1 result?

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Why the hell would scum roleblock a mason?

Cheeky claimed mason and an unspecified role that failed on me and showed me to be "disloyal" but also "ascetic" and also doesn't have a NIGHT 1 RESULT.

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uh why

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no

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STOP SAYING THAT WORD

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And Shrek needs to go, that's how things get settled.

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Gamma is town.

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So DGB has a "guilty" in the sense that the person they targeted wasn't added to the PT. But they wouldn't know the difference between that and being blocked

Yeah, and DGB is still pushing the "Shrek is Scum" narrative that is really lacking an awareness of what has been said.

Shrek is fakeclaiming.

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So DGB has a "guilty" in the sense that the person they targeted wasn't added to the PT. But they wouldn't know the difference between that and being blocked

Yeah, and DGB is still pushing the "Shrek is Scum" narrative that is really lacking an awareness of what has been said.

Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.

I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.

If you think DGB is scum then why do you want to vote Gamma?

.

If I didn't KNOW that LQ is town, I would totally vote there.

LQ should always be the N1 vig.

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So DGB has a "guilty" in the sense that the person they targeted wasn't added to the PT. But they wouldn't know the difference between that and being blocked

Yeah, and DGB is still pushing the "Shrek is Scum" narrative that is really lacking an awareness of what has been said.

Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.

I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.

If you think DGB is scum then why do you want to vote Gamma?

If DGB is scum we all owe it to it to nom them after the game.

Uh, no? Because we let NKs solve this. If I die (which is likely) then it paints DGB in a bad light. If Shrek dies, then it paints DGB in a bad light. If DGB dies, then it makes Shrek look bad. If Cheeky dies, it probably does nothing, but dissuades the conversation one more day.

On another note, I think the reason that DGB took my advice to target Shrek is because of who it clears if Shrek is Scum. I would have honestly expected Town!DGB to question my methods of those clears because they are behind closed doors.

HEY

I did question your methods TWICE but the first time you refused to answer and the second you straight up ignored me.

I took your suggestion because I wanted to be a nice guy and give you a chance to test your arcane theories.

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So DGB has a "guilty" in the sense that the person they targeted wasn't added to the PT. But they wouldn't know the difference between that and being blocked

Yeah, and DGB is still pushing the "Shrek is Scum" narrative that is really lacking an awareness of what has been said.

Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.

I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.

If you think DGB is scum then why do you want to vote Gamma?

If DGB is scum we all owe it to it to nom them after the game.

Uh, no? Because we let NKs solve this. If I die (which is likely) then it paints DGB in a bad light. If Shrek dies, then it paints DGB in a bad light. If DGB dies, then it makes Shrek look bad. If Cheeky dies, it probably does nothing, but dissuades the conversation one more day.

On another note, I think the reason that DGB took my advice to target Shrek is because of who it clears if Shrek is Scum. I would have honestly expected Town!DGB to question my methods of those clears because they are behind closed doors.

Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.

I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.

LQ, town!DGB is just really accusatory in general and pegs people as scum even without hard guilties. I'd say at best it's NAI but I haven't seen their scum play so maybe I'm wrong

lol guy. DGB like exclusively defended scum and pushed town at least in the early game.

This game?????

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How could Nero say i pushed town and defended scum in this game when no scum flipped????

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So we definitely lim in mega/cheeky.

So what happened to my Shrek target then?

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My target N2 was DGB so from my PoV it makes sense if Shrek visited DGB to NK them and STD protected DGB and MegA is scum with a fake claim.

Who was your n1 target?