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Post Post #5300 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:15 am

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In post 5297, Nero Cain wrote:The only slight thing is that you or him would control the nk and you could intentionally not kill me so you can make that argument. I mean sure it's possible but if we are going to say that then I think it points to math
I highly doubt it's Math. The situation is that if it is Math, then he must take you to elo. Thus anyone trying to frame Math must take you to elo. Math isn't really worth considering until F3 if the game goes that long.
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Post Post #5301 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:17 am

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Then Math or the real scum are forced into cross voting which gives us 50/50 odds of winning. Keeping Math alive, unless they have reason to believe you'll vote Math over them is dumb.
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Post Post #5302 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:04 am

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In post 5300, Titus wrote:
In post 5297, Nero Cain wrote:The only slight thing is that you or him would control the nk and you could intentionally not kill me so you can make that argument. I mean sure it's possible but if we are going to say that then I think it points to math
I highly doubt it's Math. The situation is that if it is Math, then he must take you to elo. Thus anyone trying to frame Math must take you to elo. Math isn't really worth considering until F3 if the game goes that long.
This.

I will be on Nero tonight since no one left to investigate.

And DoTW the simpler answer is that I am trying communicating my opinion rather than tunneling.

There could be a flaw in my logic.

@Nero can you please provide a random person on DoTW’s list within the first ten and provide the number that’s not me or Kyo?

I know you think it’s pedantic and lamisty but I just want to see if you got the same list.
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Post Post #5303 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:06 am

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Oh and give their number too
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Post Post #5304 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:07 am

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Actually give me Andres’s number so scum don’t know about living players
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Post Post #5305 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:40 am

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This dilemma is also why I wanted to investigate all the VTs once it became clear that we would be down to one scum.

The only two person team (yes I know I am dumb) is Titus/Kyo.

If we want to go with one person scum (more likely) then it’s in DGB/DoTW/Kyo/Titus.

So assuming we miselim I die or scum keep me and Nero into tomorrow shrinking the PoE.
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Post Post #5306 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:43 am

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I would much prefer if we are going with one scum Titus and Kyo be forced to vote in DoTW and DGB first. This way it becomes incredibly unlikely for them to hammer if they are two scum.

I am having a hard time getting Kyo’s post out of my head and am wondering if Kyo is a scum traitor tbh.

I know I know I am dumb.

But I think Kyo immediately voting on Titus is weird.
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Post Post #5307 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:44 am

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VOTE: Kyo

I would rather do this tbh then if it’s one scum y’all can bicker without me and my paranoia and I give an ordered list tonight before eod.
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Post Post #5308 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:36 am

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I just feel like Titus probably made up her role after I said I have reason to believe a TA exists. If she didn't and is town though, my guess is the neighbors are her false guilties and the Mailman is her true scum guilty who has an alibi via his role.
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Post Post #5309 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:39 am

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In post 5308, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I just feel like Titus probably made up her role after I said I have reason to believe a TA exists. If she didn't and is town though, my guess is the neighbors are her false guilties and the Mailman is her true scum guilty who has an alibi via his role.
Kyo why aren’t you wall posting?
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Post Post #5310 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:40 am

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Literally no one besides me has expressed suspicion on you and most of the time I am regarded as not having the best opinion. Why are you not driving as unsuspected townie?
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Post Post #5311 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:54 am

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There’s something wrong here.

If me, Nero, Kyo are all town scum would be freaking out.

However there seems to be no desperation from anyone.
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Post Post #5312 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:13 am

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In post 5298, Dwlee99 wrote:
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Six alive today assume miselim in DGB/DoTW/Titus. Assume I die.
Four alive. Nero and Kyo both are town read. Assume no elim.
Nero dies.

Scum in DoTW/DGB/Titus whoever is left cross voted with Kyo deciding.
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Post Post #5313 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:16 am

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If I were town Kyo I would be pushing for the scummiest of that trio to make my decision as easy as possible and walling up a storm. She did similar in the game I was scum against her in.
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Post Post #5314 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:25 am

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I dont feel like rereading and making walls. I just finished isekai uPick in a similar position to how I finished our mini together. It was down to town!me or scum!Cabd and I didn't wall out like I did in our mini when it was town!me vs scum!you.
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Post Post #5315 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:25 am

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It's also not elo
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Post Post #5316 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:36 am

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Kyo can't be scum bc she was blocked last night and there was still a kill?
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Post Post #5317 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 5308, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I just feel like Titus probably made up her role after I said I have reason to believe a TA exists. If she didn't and is town though, my guess is the neighbors are her false guilties and the Mailman is her true scum guilty who has an alibi via his role.
This is also a reason I suspect titus
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Post Post #5318 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:45 am

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In post 5316, Nero Cain wrote:Kyo can't be scum bc she was blocked last night and there was still a kill?
If she lied about being a VT she can be.
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Post Post #5319 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:45 am

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I am just trying to figure out why you’re not dead Nero. Which scum doesn’t shoot you.
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Post Post #5320 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:50 am

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In post 5299, Titus wrote:
In post 5296, Nero Cain wrote:Titus, if the reason that I'm alive is to eliminate you then why doesn't that apply to dotw as well since I've been pushing both of you?
I don't really recall you doing that? Like you had DGB and DotW in your pool for days but it never felt to me like you pushed them. Maybe that's just egocentric on my part.
I've never really pushed dgb beyond d1 and I've been pushing that scum was you/dotw. Get your facts right at least.
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Post Post #5321 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:00 am

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In post 5320, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5299, Titus wrote:
In post 5296, Nero Cain wrote:Titus, if the reason that I'm alive is to eliminate you then why doesn't that apply to dotw as well since I've been pushing both of you?
I don't really recall you doing that? Like you had DGB and DotW in your pool for days but it never felt to me like you pushed them. Maybe that's just egocentric on my part.
I've never really pushed dgb beyond d1 and I've been pushing that scum was you/dotw. Get your facts right at least.
The main issue with Titus scum is that House is almost never wrong on Titus alignment ever.
House said Titus is town.

Can you find me a counter example?
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Post Post #5322 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:04 am

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I am not sure why I am still alive. According to Titus it's so I can vote her and it's not impossible but then I feel like if we apply that to Titus I also need to apply that to dotw. I mean maybe he doesn't kill me bc he thinks I always vote Titus today an he can just kill me tomorrow
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Post Post #5323 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:07 am

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In post 5322, Nero Cain wrote:I am not sure why I am still alive. According to Titus it's so I can vote her and it's not impossible but then I feel like if we apply that to Titus I also need to apply that to dotw. I mean maybe he doesn't kill me bc he thinks I always vote Titus today an he can just kill me tomorrow
I am wondering if scum thought maybe I would gambit and protect you so they risked a kill like Andres in order to make sure a kill happened so we didn’t gain an elim if my DoTW theory is wrong. So scum would be in the not wanting to elim Kerset crowd.
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Post Post #5324 (ISO) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:09 am

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If it's not Titus or dotw it's you,math
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