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[DkKoba]

any final questions for me dayi

[DkKoba]

Datisi btw*
Im really burnt out from mafia and dont wanna go in depth but like yeah

[DkKoba]

As in more than i already have

[DkKoba]

like remember datisi that considering *both * town chaos and scum salsa simply makes sense when applied to the game as a whole.
I get you might think scum chaos can happen but i absolutely do not think you can say that there are nearly any reasons for town salsa holistically, especially after she tried to counterwagon against IV

[DkKoba]

Chaos decided to be cooperative with town and consolidated on IV and didn't budge when dwlee was wagoned -> salsa activdly tried to derail the IV lim

Salsa was hesitant to get margot limmed when she was in trou le and was afraid of losing that slot.

Margot was clearly the deepwolf slot - and salsa was caught in a shitty situation there.

Consider this and please hammer salsa here.

Cheers.

[Datisi]

sigh. the issue is to me the counter makes way more sense. like, salsa is more scummy than chaos, sure. i can absolutely give you that. but up to date, whenever i went with "who's more scummy" in lylo, i always ended up hammering town.

i'm gonna look at salsa trying to "counterwagon" for iv. also there is this one post i made in my notes pt that keeps staring at me and i hate it.

[Datisi]

sigh. the issue is to me the counter makes way more sense. like, salsa is more scummy than chaos, sure. i can absolutely give you that. but up to date, whenever i went with "who's more scummy" in lylo, i always ended up hammering town.

i'm gonna look at salsa trying to "counterwagon" for iv. also there is this one post i made in my notes pt that keeps staring at me and i hate it.

[DkKoba]

occams razor man

Its not playstyle scummy - its straight up scumming kind of scummy where post flips it looks terrible.

Chaos has so much reasoning and stuff on d1 despite being wrong and was actively solving. There's more than just that.

Idk man i just think its clear cut if you remove the tinfoil

[DkKoba]

Margot was bussing salsa for a reason - because she tmi that salsa was scummy. She saw her partner as too scummy to live. Its a common trap for scum and margot is a player who gets into it often as scum

[DkKoba]

Chaos wasnt even pushing this point fyi thus this isnt a scum olan. He was all over ari->datisi post margot. So that tells you that somehow facts lined up for me when scum clearly didnt plan it if im scum

[Datisi]

Chaos wasnt even pushing this point fyi thus this isnt a scum olan. He was all over ari->datisi post margot. So that tells you that somehow facts lined up for me when scum clearly didnt plan it if im scum

the issue is that this can also be explained with you/chaos being scum - chaos thought he would have more success swaying salsa to vote me than swaying me to vote salsa and calling that a bus. and you decided to try to sell that anyway, maybe you didn't even see that happened and now have to argue she was bussing.

koba, what are your most recent lylos, as either alignment? i remember we once talked about scum!you in lylo (though i can't find the convo) and i'm interested in seeing something.

[DkKoba]

I very rarely make it to lylo and the last 2 times as town
1) i was consensus townread because i buried 2nd to last scum
2) i got instant voted by town while being pocketed by scum until the end

[DkKoba]

Thats booneytoonz 14 and nomination mafia respectively (the one i didnt replace out of)

[DkKoba]

Last time i was scum in limlo becsuse i was last scum was chosen mafia open 799, i just waited for town to vote other town and was all set all game bc i lol bussed my partner d1

[Datisi]

yeah that's what i'm thinking about

no scum lylos since chosen mafia?

[DkKoba]

Oh and your game where i claimed vig and won for free while openwolfing lul

[DkKoba]

why is this relevant tho

The situations are much different like despite like the fact you wont find a parallel there

[DkKoba]

Ok maybe my instant hammer on ydrasse in booneytoonz is a thing but it was still different haha

[Datisi]

bc after the chosen mafia game, we had a convo and you said you wanted to change your lylo meta because [meta that i'm not sure if i should out] so i was hoping to take a look at things. oh well.

[DkKoba]

oh i did change it
Its called not being the one in limlo

[DkKoba]

OH wait there is treestumps by bingle where i hydrad with nancy

[DkKoba]

I played passive there too - and couldnt just force thru a lim because of the stumps having a 1 shot power

[Datisi]

next time i'm voting first in lylo just so i don't have to go through this bullshit again.

[DkKoba]

u snooze u lose

[DkKoba]

i dont know how to fake case townies well as scum btw i kinda just yell theyre scum for shallow reasons until enough people see it and sheep me lol