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[Milobird]

i sufficiently responded to your shit case already

you know i did because immediately after i responded you buried my response under 200 posts of ate

you r literally a degenerate spammer

“It’s not a waste Bc it helps you ME someone” is a bad argument considering all the loopholes in it, which we’d have to expect if we made that choice in the first place and wild much more readily choose the easier option of removing the claimed protective

[Milobird]

It really fucking annoys me that I write one post and Bell responds with 5 posts and now I feel like I need to respond to his posts with more posts


and then he will respond with even more posts

and then there will be so much garbage fucking spam in this thread everyoen will just not read it

cuz that's literally his entire fucking plan

just spam spam spam spam spam this thread full of utter fucking garbage and pretend it smells like roses or some shit

Yeah. You do this too. So it doesn’t annoy you when you do it.

Also, goddamn you have 6 counter arguments to why scum would double shoot and all of them are absolutely ridiculous. Why would we shoot a dude again if we knew it was super likely to fail?
We needed to find the role blocker? Well, it worked out didn’t it?
Wut.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Like you did it on the last page. You’ve also said bell’s posts are garbage a hundred times, creating a metric ton of garbage yourself. That is even more contentless than the person you’re complaining about. *psyduck*

-Bell

[Milobird]

I wonder where the bear got the idea that tone is a good way to get town to try and ignore mech

Why does this sound so familiar

Hmmmm

viewtopic.php?p=12959829#p12959829

Could it be this sequence of posts?

[Milobird]

Yo.
Pooky is being fake salty about this.
Please vote scum him.

We’re town.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I’m at work.
But I don’t want to lose to concern trolling mastina nking, empty posting, open wolfing Pooky
I promise he won’t be mad for you voting him because he is scum.
I repeat. He will not be mad at you.
-Bell

[Milobird]

*checks notes*

AtE is a scumtell Pooky, that’s what you’ve been telling us all day!

[Milobird]

shut the fuck up wolf

Pooky is possessed by a scum spirit. He must be exorcised and become the bear we all know and love.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I guess one thing worth considering here is that the scum is probably just as pissed as whoever the town is here so the AtE doesn't mean much

Agreed

Feels bad, huh

The mech finally caught up with you and you were flat out told AtE didn’t matter, then tried to pull the tact you’ve been telling Cakez meant we were scum all day

[Milobird]

Oh contraire, Cakeboy said your argument was bad. Clearly you haven’t!

I know it’s tricky because you already played the ignorance card, which means if scum did target TIL it was way more likely you. And if it was stopped another way, it was you being blocked

Sorry bear, that’s just how the cookie crumbles

[Milobird]

Oh, there’s your last leg to stand on! Too bad that a simple fact check shows bell and I are way more prone to activity as town! In fact, bloodstained was me breaking out my meta for the sole purpose of revenge for tenet and 2181.

There’s no one to take revenge on here, bear.

But you know that. You’re just hoping to blame the apathy on us despite your role in contributing! It’s okay, it’ll all be over soon. Regardless of which of us wins.

[Milobird]

I dunno bear, they seem to think the mech arguments pretty good

[Milobird]

(Says the bear replying to two posts with three)

[Milobird]

Nah.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I’m town.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You’re right Pooky, if I was scum planning to dunk you with that case I would have sprung it on you earlier. Not halfway through MELO 2 electric boogaloo.

At the very latest start of MELO day 2.

But keep trying to justify us wasting a shot (which the poisoner would have been wasted, when we’re down to two members and desperate and NEED every kill possible) instead of point out the obvious fact that if I was scum I could easily have played ignorant about the perish song! Because towns supposed to be uninformed and that makes me a good lil townie… hmm, is there someone alive who did this?

[Milobird]

But Pooky, you had us lock town until yesterday when you ignored the possibility of mastina altogether! :O

And surely, you understand that I’m not letting you break either mine nor bells streaks. Sorry, not sorry!

[Milobird]

Both Notty and I would’ve given up by now if we were scum.
Also, I can’t break my loss streak if I don’t roll scum.

-Bell

[Milobird]

No they didn’t, spiffeh had a horrible misread.
And so did I
-Bell

[Milobird]

Um.
I don’t agree. Because I don’t think he had a Job then.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, yeah.
Between you shooting a dude and then doing not much for 8 game days and still spending more time defending then attacking this game day because you can’t see to fake solve.

And me breaking the spam barrier and actually managing to solve when I literally coulfn’t to save my life in pookyvflavot with not much of any evidence of improvement since then is yeah.

Also, there is something incredibly off about you getting mad about shitposting. When you literally don’t sweat it as town to my knowledge.

-Bell

[Milobird]

No, you aren’t.

You’re a malevolent scum spirit.

Also, no Mastina straight up said she would kill me if didn’t give her something.
Hectic never claimed his result.
-Bell

[Milobird]

I made an avalanche of arguments when you’ve made like, 2.
Most of the time you just say “how does that prove I’m scum?”

-Bell

[Milobird]

Wow hey, pooky is saying that he’s town.
But pooky thinks saying you’re town is scummy.

Ergo: Pooky thinks he’s scum.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Nah, you haven’t you declined to do anything with my analysis of ralts citing replacement and disinterest in it.
If you addressed my point that you’re more curious and have at least some hint of curiosity in your town games on meta, I don’t recall you saying much more than what sircakez was saying, which is that the majority of your posts are shit posts.

Pooky, you’ve spent most of the time on defense because you don’t seem to have much confidence in what to attack us with.
This is because you’re scum when town pooky would have a case he probably believed in and would be pushing it repeatedly.

You’re super negative with negative language here when that’s not really your town game and the anger you’re expressing makes little sense. My anger makes sense, I’m annoyed at people for scum reading me.

You’re mad because I post too much. I don’t care. You’re not the post police.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Page top fool!

[Milobird]

Please kill Pooky, Sircakez.

He’s trying to escape the evil ghost cage through AtE.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Fuck the post police.

-Bell

[Milobird]

The real tell that shows I'm town this game is that I'm having fun and can't stop posting btw.
Just fyi.

-Bell

[Milobird]

No, you aren’t.

You’re a malevolent scum spirit.

Also, no Mastina straight up said she would kill me if didn’t give her something.
Hectic never claimed his result.
-Bell

I am so town I am practically glowing.

Hectic didn't need to claim his result.

He literally put his entire rep on the line to claim you are scum

You died because Hectic hard pushed you to death.

Uh. It takes more than one person to vote a player to do that. Which even with the hard push I was fighting back and survived for awhile. I agree Hectic secured it, but there were ways for me to get out of it, that I just couldn't manage.

-Bell

[Milobird]

1. "Alls well that ends well"
2. No, just no. That doesn't make any sense to me, but maybe I'm just terrible at mechanics. Sircakez would be better at this. But I dunno why we would bother when we already have similar role in Gamma to shoot.
3. Alls well that ends well part deux. With soft benefits being weighed equally with hard benefits. Which yeah. I just don't deal in soft benefits.
4. All well that ends well part TREUX. Oh my god. WHy. Just why are you making this terrible argument Pooky. Like it's absurd on its face.

Just because things worked out that way does not in anyway mean scum planned it. Like, you just look bad based on the available evidence. Because you're scum and SCUM LOOK BAD WHEN THEY GET ROLE BLOCKED AND THERE ARE NO ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATIONS THAT MAKE SENSE.

I have refuted your nonsense. How's it feel?

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also in regards to pretending you don't know how your partner's role works. I can think of one reason you might pretend not to know how your partner's role works!
It's a pretty good one.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Yeah, you keep saying it's nonsense when your argument is based on the premise that because something ended up a certain way the scum must've planned it. As if scum don't try to play optimally. Get real. These are unoptimal solutions you're proposing to a problem that has simple answers.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Those aren't strategies you literally are pointing out that it makes you look bad!
It's a failure to apply Okham's razor!
It's horrible!

-Bel

[Milobird]

Like, go on Pooky.
Explain how this isn't a failure to apply Okham's razor.
Explain how it isn't the case that you're saying, "It worked out for you didn't it? *Smirk* Look at how bad I look, JUST AS YOU INTENDED YOU CLEVER SCALLYWAG"

Read your own words. Your argument is as silly as the argument you made for us nking Mastina.

-Bell

[Milobird]

An interesting position to take Pooky the magical Bear. *nods sagely*
You think we're scum in elo while we're voting each other and Sircakez hasn't voted either of us do you?
What brashness, what youth!

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're super negative and you're super mean and you're super scum.
Because you're super incurious, super-not solving, super Ateing, super caught in mechanics, super adamant that admitting to error is a cardinal sin, super using appeal to stone like it's going out of style, and worst of all.
Not very creative.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, I posted a bunch of posts that outted you as scum if you read them the correct way and everybody ignored it or called it wizardry.

A post calling another post spam without adding anything else to it, is actually worse spam.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You saying you were super sad FB died and you'd never kill them as scum was a lie. Proven by you arguing the opposite position recently.
Also, you said you were super sad ironically.

You also open wolfed after FB and I went over how FB once opened wolfed as scum and everyone just ignored him.

There was that post Dwlee made that was "wtf is this" that was pretty much "why are you bussing our entire team you nutcase"

and a bunch of other posts.

-Bell

[Milobird]

1. "Alls well that ends well"
2. No, just no. That doesn't make any sense to me, but maybe I'm just terrible at mechanics. Sircakez would be better at this. But I dunno why we would bother when we already have similar role in Gamma to shoot.
3. Alls well that ends well part deux. With soft benefits being weighed equally with hard benefits. Which yeah. I just don't deal in soft benefits.
4. All well that ends well part TREUX. Oh my god. WHy. Just why are you making this terrible argument Pooky. Like it's absurd on its face.

Just because things worked out that way does not in anyway mean scum planned it. Like, you just look bad based on the available evidence. Because you're scum and SCUM LOOK BAD WHEN THEY GET ROLE BLOCKED AND THERE ARE NO ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATIONS THAT MAKE SENSE.

I have refuted your nonsense. How's it feel?

-Bell

Also in regards to pretending you don't know how your partner's role works. I can think of one reason you might pretend not to know how your partner's role works!
It's a pretty good one.

-Bell

Like, go on Pooky.
Explain how this isn't a failure to apply Okham's razor.
Explain how it isn't the case that you're saying, "It worked out for you didn't it? *Smirk* Look at how bad I look, JUST AS YOU INTENDED YOU CLEVER SCALLYWAG"

Read your own words. Your argument is as silly as the argument you made for us nking Mastina.

-Bell

[Milobird]

...They were scum?
So there's plenty of incentive to understand how it works.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Saying I'm insecure about your case is like saying that PookyTheMagicalBear complains about spamming and shit posts as town instead of just solving and lolriding their case to a win.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Didn't Dwlee literally die and kill another town from the grave through their ability.
Also, both confirmed town demonstrated that they *didn't* understand what Notty was saying, which demonstrated that, in fact, the argument had never been resolved to begin with. This also is at complete odds with you simultaneously arguing that we planned to use this case on you now , while arguing it had already been resolved. But if it had already been resolved, why would we have cased you with it at all? and why did 3/4 of the town not understand it. Because we're desperate scum Pooky says, but if we're desperate scum than why have I escaped from bad scum player jail that Pooky has insisted I've escaped even though there's no evidence my scum game has improved *at all* While Pooky has recently broken his meta. Demonstrating a willingness to change that I haven't been able to do yet.

It's all so bad.It makes me sad. You will be glad. To have voted, PookyTheMagicalBear.


-Bell

[Milobird]

Yo. You have demonstrably broken your meta in another game in relation to bussing.
Would you like to say you haven't changed again? I'd be more than happy to cite where you bussed Dunnstrall recently.

-Bell

[Milobird]

LOL

-Bell

[Milobird]

Perspective slip.
It's only disgusting for me to misrepresent people as town.
Since the one of the goals of scum is to misrepresent people as scum, when they're town.

I hope this has been helpful in differentiating between morally outraged scum and morally outraged town.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, can we please note that you've moved the goal posts. That's cheating.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, can we please note that you've moved the goal posts. That's cheating.

-Bell

shut the fuck up wolf

Town Pooky everyone.

-Bell

[Milobird]

8000!

Please just hammer Pooky for the love of god. I just want to win another game as town and stop spending so much of my time on this.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Look Pooky.
I don't care about what rules you come up with in your head about how Mafia should be played.
I don't appreciate you calling my attempts to demonstrate that you're scum "garbage" nor do I appreciate your constant baiting.
Nor do I appreciate your fake rage that just toes the line.
Your dishonesty, while annoying because others don't seem to acknowledge it, is fine because well, you're scum.
Your honesty disgusted as scum dishonesty in order to post a manifesto about the etiquette of mafia games however, I don't enjoy or care for.

If you want to talk about this, we can do it out of the game inside of in your safe space.

-Bell


-Bell

[Milobird]

You're posting like Dwlee. Another scum tell.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Nah.
I think my cases were decent.

Refutation of Pooky's argument: Ockham's razor.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Most of the worst arguments I've seen in this game have been in terms of false equivalence between my garbage content and your total lack of any content whatsoever. Your argument for Mastina and your argument that you're currently making.

So I guess, I'm grateful that you keep repeating it.

-Bell

[Milobird]

How is "Mastina would've changed her mind" a good argument.
How is: "Well it worked, didn't it!?" a good argument.

There are no question marks because the questions are rhetorical.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're right, when I expand it, you actually said Mastina would've changed her mind *and* sircakez was going to change their mind.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You actually have more posts than I do and far less solve.
But don't let the facts get in your way Pooky!

-Bell

[Milobird]

..................
Oh, I'm sorry. there was a significant chance that Mastina would chance her mind and that there was a significant chance that Sircakez would change their mind.

My bad.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Do you not know what hydras are

-Bell

[Milobird]

This may explain why he keeps getting confused whenever Notty posts.

How about this Pooky you can repost your argument on the next page and I post my 3 shorter arguments in response to them and then we both go to bed for awhile.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Jesus christ Bear.
You're not Petapan.
Stop pretending to be.

-Bell

[Milobird]

1. "Alls well that ends well"
2. No, just no. That doesn't make any sense to me, but maybe I'm just terrible at mechanics. Sircakez would be better at this. But I dunno why we would bother when we already have similar role in Gamma to shoot.
3. Alls well that ends well part deux. With soft benefits being weighed equally with hard benefits. Which yeah. I just don't deal in soft benefits.
4. All well that ends well part TREUX. Oh my god. WHy. Just why are you making this terrible argument Pooky. Like it's absurd on its face.

Just because things worked out that way does not in anyway mean scum planned it. Like, you just look bad based on the available evidence. Because you're scum and SCUM LOOK BAD WHEN THEY GET ROLE BLOCKED AND THERE ARE NO ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATIONS THAT MAKE SENSE.

I have refuted your nonsense. How's it feel?

-Bell

Also in regards to pretending you don't know how your partner's role works. I can think of one reason you might pretend not to know how your partner's role works!
It's a pretty good one.

-Bell

Like, go on Pooky.
Explain how this isn't a failure to apply Okham's razor.
Explain how it isn't the case that you're saying, "It worked out for you didn't it? *Smirk* Look at how bad I look, JUST AS YOU INTENDED YOU CLEVER SCALLYWAG"

Read your own words. Your argument is as silly as the argument you made for us nking Mastina.

-Bell

[Milobird]

VOTE: Pooky

Fucking thank you.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I know you're dead and that your vote doesn't matter, but if you did have that vote.
Yes, we would've won.
Actually I think it would've taken 3 votes to elim someone, but I keep forgetting if it were 2 or 3 votes needed when there's 4 people.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Hey, I appreciate the support Titus is giving me Pooky.
I was writing that.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Jesus christ Bear.
You're not Petapan.
Stop pretending to be.

-Bell

FUNNY BECAUSE YOUVE SPENT ALL OF THE DAY TRYING TO PRETEND I WANT TO BE PETA FUCKING PAN

DO I LOOK LIKE IM FUCKING ENJOYING MYSELF!?!?!

I DO NOT FUCKING WANT TO RESPOND TO YOUR SHITTY SPAM ATTACKS

I WOULD RATHER I POST AND THEN YOU POST AND THE SC ASKS US QUESTIONS AND THEN MAKES A DECISION

INSTEAD I HAVE TO DEAL WITH YOUR UTTER FUCKING TRASH FOR A WHOLE WEEK

I DONT EVEN GET PAID FOR THIS

IF I DIDNT RESPECT THE REST OF THIS TOWN I WOULDVE FUCKING SELF VOTED ALREADY AND TOLD YOU TO CHOKE ON THIS SCUM WIN

Yeah, Petapan doesn't look like they enjoy their scum games either.

-Bell

[Milobird]

VOTE: Pooky

Fucking thank you.

-Bell

are you really going to pretend she's got a vote

rofl how desperate are you

I know you're dead and that your vote doesn't matter, but if you did have that vote.
Yes, we would've won.
Actually I think it would've taken 3 votes to elim someone, but I keep forgetting if it were 2 or 3 votes needed when there's 4 people.

-Bell

Well, yeah. Maybe don't do it then?

-Bell

[Milobird]

Woops, those two quotes were pointing out I was in no way trying to pretend that fake hammer was real.
I mean, we've both been around the block.

Unless you think I typed out that post in less than 40 seconds. Which cool I guess. after reading Pooky's response which would be even cooler.
I guess. But not really possible so alas. Pooky couldn't quite fit that opportunistic push into time frame and so he showed himself to be wrong instead. Which is not actually a scum tell which is unfortunate.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Actually, I think it was me saying that nobody was fooled by that fake hammer and that nobody was trying to pretend to be fooled by that fake hammer either. I need to consult with myself first to be sure.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Titus, may I ask who you are endorsing the lim of as of this time.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Thank you Titus.
I appreciate it. It makes me feel good and slightly relieved.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Town page top

*shines*

-Bell

[Milobird]

Best of luck all, It's been fun.



-Bell

[Milobird]

Aw.
Gg everyone.

Streaks are meant to be broken.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I just think it’s comical they were the game losing miselim after silencing the one person who could have made the game much easier

Now, now, no post game grumbling.
Everyone is competent enough to recognize their own mistakes and misplays this game.

Or at least most of those mistakes.

Good game everyone.
I enjoyed being delibird and I love this avatar. It’s like I’m a raccoon bird thief Santa Claus.
-Bell

[Milobird]

Sorry Notty. I have a feeling if it was just you, town would’ve won. In Elo since you were doing a much better job arguing for scum pooky.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Anyway...

First and foremost I want to apologize for all the mod errors. Some of them were Manatee's fault (most notably, ssbm was sent the wrong role PM, and it was only because she died N1 that this did not completely wreck the game), but several of them were mine as well.

I think the lesson here is definitely, if you're going to co-design and co-mod a game, make sure you have very good notes. Manatee did the role PM's and she made them look very pretty but also it was very hard to read through them to double-check actions and there were a couple times where I should have and didn't.

Thanks for modding S_S, manatee. I had fun.
There were delays but I didn’t mind them.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I did fuck up with wisdom. But the game had MULTIPLE misplays from multiple people.

Anyone else in that MELO doesn’t last as long as we did.

[Milobird]

For instance, Mala getting stopped despite in thread discussion

My wuickhammer

Kobas selfhammer

It’s not just one persons fault. We all trolled and we all got owned.

[Milobird]

On lunch.
Wisdom is cool.

@koba, sircakez did not ask for feedback. We should respect that.
I hope your break is awesome koba!

-Bell

[Milobird]

I thought it was pooky. >.> I think.

-Bell