Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia (Game Over)

[StrangeMatter]

Sorry, that's 25 cents at this moment.

[Towelie]

Even now, after I told you that you aren’t engaging and trying to figure things out you still aren’t. Like, beetlejuice tells aren’t supposed to actually work lmao

[StrangeMatter]

Even now, after I told you that you aren’t engaging and trying to figure things out you still aren’t. Like, beetlejuice tells aren’t supposed to actually work lmao

Yup. And that's going to be another one of those games where I just didn't do much anything as town again.

[Towelie]

Show me. Link them! Prove me wrong.

[StrangeMatter]

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=87980

Here you go.

[Towelie]

Tell you what- scouts honor. Link me games you did nothing without telling me your alignment snd I will guess without looking.

Ninja- I literally see glimpses of solving in that ISO… lol.

[StrangeMatter]

Yes but it's similar in the fact that I still didn't feel like I had little to say early on.

Also if another person votes me and I get hammered here I strongly suggest people rethink this game.

[Towelie]

In case this both goes through and whiffs I think I actively don't want the bears elim at this point. I just think interactions w/ both flipped scum don't work here and the neighborizing power doesn't do anything except make that team probably weaker to gamma.

Wisdom I go back and forth on; his progressions seem organic enough today and best case for Wisdom town is the meta dive on SS which I just probably don't bother with if I'm casing my buddy; it would seem to me the the LLD kill and the gamma block point to that team wanting dunn to go deep. I guess I could see scum!Wisdom wanting be be a late game hero and carry across the finish line but I'm not sure how much weight that needs to hold here. Some things fit here, many others really just don't.

Other slots I'm just out of spoons for this game day

-b

[Towelie]

All of y’all are lurking and not doing anything just bring SM to hammer range for me so I can hammer

One more vote folks

[Wisdom]

mush will when shes here i guess

[StrangeMatter]

Do you just want me to self vote here?

[Towelie]

Do you just want me to self vote here?

I mean if you're town I want you to derail this mislim in a way that makes us realize we're wrong about your slot. I realize that's a tall ask that's going to be fighting against a lot of confbias at this point.

I asked in 2553 what a good way to read you would be. I don't think you ever answered me.
You've expressed a vague sense of unease at Wisdom v Pooky but like haven't tried to dig into what that is other than really vague doomsaying about one of M&M's posts that you didn't really explain.
I want to know how you've reconciled that against your early game Wisdom scumread. You said you don't necessarily think the fight is TvT. Do you think it's TvS? Do you just not know? Do you not care?
I want to know about your townreads.

Like I said earlier, we're where we are in the game and I just don't see a trajectory other than going through the motions. You've said you're disengaged. Why? What would take you to become engaged? If you're town we're momentously ahead here -- i'd probably expect that to be somewhat engaging by virtue of the big W in the sky that's almost within reach?

-b
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[Towelie]

I keeo doing hydra erasure and I need to stop doing that. Sorry Noraa.

-b

[StrangeMatter]

Do you just want me to self vote here?

I mean if you're town I want you to derail this mislim in a way that makes us realize we're wrong about your slot. I realize that's a tall ask that's going to be fighting against a lot of confbias at this point.

I asked in 2553 what a good way to read you would be. I don't think you ever answered me.
You've expressed a vague sense of unease at Wisdom v Pooky but like haven't tried to dig into what that is other than really vague doomsaying about one of M&M's posts that you didn't really explain.
I want to know how you've reconciled that against your early game Wisdom scumread. You said you don't necessarily think the fight is TvT. Do you think it's TvS? Do you just not know? Do you not care?
I want to know about your townreads.

Like I said earlier, we're where we are in the game and I just don't see a trajectory other than going through the motions. You've said you're disengaged. Why? What would take you to become engaged? If you're town we're momentously ahead here -- i'd probably expect that to be somewhat engaging by virtue of the big W in the sky that's almost within reach?

-b
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It's hard to explain what keeps me going in a game. Just because we're winning doesn't mean that I'm always going to be engaged in a game. It's hard to really explain since it's a lot of things that stick altogether that make my engagement to a game drop. One of which is with this game I don't think it was easy to understand what was going on, and especially now it's harder to keep my engagement into a game when I have zero understanding of other players in this game. There are also other games that I'm playing right now and I can't always focus my attention on this game while thinking of another (and I deeply regret doing that).

The pushback against Wisdom just feels incredibly defensive to me for very little reason, and it seems like it worked (if that's what they were doing as scum). They keep pushing back in a way that just is throwing paranoia, going along the lines of "You're just setting yourself up for losing against X scum", similarly when I've seen scum throw in godfather and acetic into the exact same game. I still suspect both right now.

I don't have townreads, this circles back to that first paragraph.

[StrangeMatter]

I don't think I even can change people's minds at this point though. I'm not good enough to pull that off, that's for sure.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I scrolled, didnt really read, I gather people are trying to lim SM. dont think last scum is a goon. Worst vote on SM is probably Gamma because town!Gamma knows his role is real and that SM is vanilla

[Towelie]

Gamma scum landscape:

??? Investigative
2x roleblocker
goon

v

Macho IC
Ind Doc
Xx Novice Vig
1x Neighborizer
1x Weak Hider

This seems scumsided to me. Roleblocker seems p strong here, esp v that hider (can godfather hider results and by its mere flip can call them into question)

-b

[Towelie]

We are the only water absorbing cloth allowed here, SSBM.

Go do the homework I assigned and come back to me.

[Milk & Mocha]

I don't think I even can change people's minds at this point though. I'm not good enough to pull that off, that's for sure.

Let's pretend you changed everyone's minds.

who do you want to eliminate today ?

[StrangeMatter]

Wisdom probably. Though honestly repeating what I’ve said before here is pointless and wastes time so you can check my other posts.

[Milk & Mocha]

ok so if you think Wisdom is last scum.

1) why would you be ok with voting yourself out?

2) how come you haven't voted for wisdom today?

[StrangeMatter]

1. I already said it but it just feels like I don’t think people will get off. At this point the game’s stalling and nothing’s happening so better to move the game forward, maybe not in the best way but it’s still going to move on without me.

2. Right, thanks for the reminder, I completely forgot. But in all seriousness I just forgot to place my vote.

Also VOTE: Wisdom

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I had an awful night last night after an amazing day, and it's the sort of awful and the sort of amazing that will take a while to play out.

All of this is to say: I'm sorry for the delay. But now, VOTE: StrangeMatter. And I hope I don't need to think about vig shots, because I'm checked out.

[Towelie]

VOTE: SM

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[Cabd]

This post at once serves as an announcement that I will be busy for the next 90 minutes or so and as a way to make the vc and flip hit a page top!