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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:10 am

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Ran this as a closed game offsite. Thought it might work better as an open.

2 Mafia

8 Town


The mafia always have:
Mafia Non-Consecutive Novice Rolecop

Mafia Non-Consecutive Roleblocker


The town has 8 out of these 10 roles, randomly chosen:
Town Night 1 Friendly Neighbor

Town Night 2 Friendly Neighbor

Town Night 3 Friendly Neighbor

Town Night 4 Friendly Neighbor

Town Night 5 Friendly Neighbor

Town Night 6 Friendly Neighbor

Town Night 7 Friendly Neighbor

Town Odd-Night Doctor

Town Even-Night Tracker

Town Night X Bulletproof Timekeeper
(Pregame, they choose one night to be bulletproof. During any day or night, they can choose to advance the phase number by one, e.g. D2 -> N3 or N2 -> D4.)

The two town roles not given are provided to the mafia as fakeclaims. If the Timekeeper is one of them, the mafia have that ability as a factional power.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:48 pm

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Wait, so there's no Vanilla roles? That's interesting. So Mafia knows the roles which aren't in the setup. I guess that Mass Claim wouldn't work because Mafia can each claim a role which isn't in the game.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:45 am

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Isn't that a bit townsided?
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:48 am

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How about 3 mafia with ungated powers XD
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:23 am

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Wouldn't that mean you need to add more town though?
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:15 am

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It seems townsided as written. A successful doc protect in particular is heavily swingy because town gets a whole day and additional FN progress is made. I don't see any reason it shouldn't be a bodyguard or something
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:19 am

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Yeah I agree. I also wonder what happens if you just no-exe every day.

Not a fan of BG though, because BG is kind of a pseudo-IC if it saves a conftown. Could just kill the doc entirely, or change it to odds.

Maybe like 7:2 (ditch the N7 FN) with ungated mafia PR's? Or could go up to 8:3 or even 10:3.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:47 pm

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What does IC and ungated mean?
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:35 am

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IC = Innocent Child
Ungated = without modifiers restricting when it can act. Making the mafia roles ungated would be changing them to simply Mafia Rolecop and Mafia Roleblocker.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:04 am

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In post 6, Something_Smart wrote:Yeah I agree. I also wonder what happens if you just no-exe every day.

Not a fan of BG though, because BG is kind of a pseudo-IC if it saves a conftown. Could just kill the doc entirely, or change it to odds.

Maybe like 7:2 (ditch the N7 FN) with ungated mafia PR's? Or could go up to 8:3 or even 10:3.
Does BG normally tell the person they've been targetted? Since we're trying to balance Doctor right, what if we make it an Even Night, or would that make it too weak then?
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:36 pm

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In post 8, Something_Smart wrote:IC = Innocent Child
Ungated = without modifiers restricting when it can act. Making the mafia roles ungated would be changing them to simply Mafia Rolecop and Mafia Roleblocker.
Thank you. So gated means that there are modifiers. I think that I get it now.
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