-LQ is happy to lim Bingle
-I am happy to lim Bingle
-if Bingle isn't scum, scum could have hammered him when he was on E-1 so scum must be worried he's jester
So to me Mystik that points only towards {you, Wisdom, Anastasia} .
Town can worry about that too. The fact that you are this certain of this makes me think you’re scum or jester. Why aren’t you at all paranoid about LQ and vice-versa?
but Bingle doesn't live to D4. Just a hunch really but I felt like they were trying to ObvTown too hard when the rest of the thread was just screwing around.
Bingle has had a number of analysis posts that I liked, but then again, it might just
actually
be LAMIST since he's going so hard at this game. But IDK. Just don't want to think about Limming them at this point.
We should have voted off Clem when we had the chance.
If Ana/Clem and Bingle were scum and you town, then why aren’t you dead?
You and imaginality continuing to push Bingle as scum makes no sense.
Your entire iso is “we should not lim person x because they’re probably a jester” and “this is why you shouldn’t lim me”.
Hyperbole? Did I get it right? What did I win?
There’s two people you’ve come close to expressing a scumread on: me, a townread who needs to be eliminated before the jester dies because ? and Clem who has done nothing.
Sure, why is Clem Town?
Compare: you clearly don’t want to die, you’re spending most of your effort doing exactly what scum wants to do (shopping for any non jester elim in a way that doesn’t bite you) and you just put up a self meta case of “I can’t be obvscum, when I’m scum I’m obvious!”
I defend myself as either alignment because I have to because this sort of thing happens all the time to me.
Well, are you going to fact-check me on that, or nah?
In post 266, LicketyQuickety wrote:Like, White Knighting Clem here is kinda a weird flex, but maybe you want to be weird like all the other weird kids in this game?
Not something I’ve said even once. What I’ve said is that your vote on Clem is a result of jester hunting, not scum hunting and that not scum hunting is scummy.
OTOH, when you flip scum you’ll have spewed Clem as NotMaf pretty hard.
Well, what is your read on Clem outside of me if I might ask?
D4 is the day that we no longer have to worry about jesters. Explicitly, wisdoms play here mirrors his play the last time he was a jester exactly.
I do think he’s more town than scum, but that’s not at all what that post suggested and I wasn’t burying that lead at all. Claiming you didn’t get that is basically admitting you weren’t reading my posts critically.
Your iso contains literally nothing about clem actually being a scumread before I called you out for not scumhunting. The angle of “Well akshually I scumread him for a lack of content” came AFTER the callout. Beforehand, he was just the only player you didn’t call town or jester in the entire player list. You, in fact, said literally nothing about him.
You’re also trying to paint me as just assuming you’re not jester when I pretty clearly made the case to why you were playing a survivalistic game.
But yeah, your inability to quote a scumread precallout kinda speaks for itself, now don’t it?
My SR of Clem is based on their lack of content, yes. Was that somehow unclear in my first post? Is lack of content generally Scummy? Y or N?
And please sign on the dotted line where you're willing to bet the game I'm Scum, thanks. I see no indication from your posts you think I'm Jester. But I can go back and check if you want me to.
In post 435, Bingle wrote:News to me, his 'case' on me was garbage and I trusted Wis on the rest.
VOTE: LQ
I think MS has made some good points about LQ not being Jest. I'm a little paranoid yet that he might be trying to bait me into voting him, but this is by far the most likely to hit scum and I'm willing to risk the slight chance of a jester loss here based on what I'm pretty sure is LQ panicking over my push on him. If we don't hit scum here the game gets really hard.
D3 after flipping another townie we have to pick a universal town/jest read and all agree to sheep that person in order to have a shot at winning.Scum can't out because if Jest doesn't play ball with them they're just fucked, so they'll probably go along with the plan. If we pick Jester they're fucked. If we pick scum we lose. If we pick town we have a 40% chance to not lose.
Funny how he goes right back to me without considering Clem at all whatsoever.
In post 459, LicketyQuickety wrote:Because my guess (and it is a guess admittedly) is that Bingle is chainsawing me irt Clem.
I attack Clem and Bingle goes after me. It might be coincidental, but I sorta feels it's not since Bingle hasn't actually said a thing about Clem. And Bingle keeps saying all I am doing is Jester hunting but that's simply not true. I have reads on pretty much everyone in the game, but Bingle turns a blind eye to that.
In post 468, Wisdom wrote:Like its another thing discussing the setup in mafia discussion and going "oh, 3-3 tie close to deadline is bad because jester will vote and get the lim"
and another to actually be a player in the game with reads and encourage LQ to hammer Cakez because of said theory
TBH, I was about to go to bed. That's the only reason I hammered Cakes there. I couldn't fight for Clem's Lim. That's literally the only reason I hammered Cakes.
In post 472, LicketyQuickety wrote:The resistance to limming Clem is absolutely outstanding. I can't help but seeing Clem as Scum based on so few people wanting to vote there. Clem has to be Scum FMPoV.
In post 225, imaginality wrote:@Clemency any reads so far?
Which player(s) do you think seem scummiest so far (don't worry about whether they're scum or jester, just who seems scummiest on the face of it?
hey sorry ive been busy and exhausted and stuff
wisdom is town
i like you
mystik is cool too
lq slot is weird
bingle
i guess i dont like meg either
Clem's only content related post of the game fwiw. Doesn't give a read on me. Has exactly 3 TRs. Doesn't really give a read on Binble. Meg is their only SR.
In post 475, LicketyQuickety wrote:Combine this with their buddying of me, and this has all the working of Clem being Scum.
In post 435, Bingle wrote:D3 after flipping another townie we have to pick a universal town/jest read and all agree to sheep that person in order to have a shot at winning.Scum can't out because if Jest doesn't play ball with them they're just fucked, so they'll probably go along with the plan. If we pick Jester they're fucked. If we pick scum we lose. If we pick town we have a 40% chance to not lose.
Why are we waiting to Lim Scum again? Like, I don't get this strat that we just Lim anyone who isn't Jest. We should be looking at who is Scum.
So who is scum to you other than Clemency, because most of your reads have been jester reads?
NO! I've been saying Bingle is Mafia. Are you actually reading what I am saying or no? Now I think Meg is a decent Lim.
In post 170, Wisdom wrote:yep clem is most likely not jester here
Id expect him to be having fun instead of being absent
or maybe that's what i want you to think
~(v-v)~
Wisdom, I still don't get why you see this as indicative of Clem being town rather than scum wanting to keep jester wifom alive.
Scum tries to make you think they're jester, they don't just post "Hey maybe I am jester"
Maybe Clem is just uninvested Mafia here. And you're reading into things because Clem hasn't said anything in like 50 hours.
In post 477, Wisdom wrote:Clem is just town for the reason i said. It's def not the lim today. Youre better off convincing me bingle isnt jester if you dont want meg
The above is all I could find in your read on Clem. So debunk that please.
Being wrong isn't scummy. Actively twisting a narrative to push something is.
That's what I think you are doing irt me.
The idea that I am Scum for being wrong seems to be the read you've settled on.
The idea that I am twisting things rather than just having a derp moment is kinda telling tbh.
You've said I've been "survivalist" and I don't think I have. I think if I was survivalist I wouldn't be posting this much, hmmm? Like, isn't Clem and Meg being survivalist if anyone is?
usually, sometimes my initial gut reads are right and i’ve either gotten talked out of them/talked myself out of them but yeah because i have more information.
like nothing so far has changed my Wisdom read for example. it would have probably been better for the gamestate had we limmed Clemency > Cakez, eventhough i still think Clemency is town because Cakez would actually be doing something.
What is your Clem TR based on? Like I originally thought they were Scummy for not providing content (at all) but now they are just straight up not playing.
usually, sometimes my initial gut reads are right and i’ve either gotten talked out of them/talked myself out of them but yeah because i have more information.
like nothing so far has changed my Wisdom read for example. it would have probably been better for the gamestate had we limmed Clemency > Cakez, eventhough i still think Clemency is town because Cakez would actually be doing something.
What is your Clem TR based on? Like I originally thought they were Scummy for not providing content (at all) but now they are just straight up not playing.
well, you would expect scum or jester to put in more effort because how does scum or jester!Clemency win this by not doing anything? Wisdom linked to a Clemency scumgame where he was extremely active and you would also expect jester!Clemency to be enjoying this a lot more.
but Bingle doesn't live to D4. Just a hunch really but I felt like they were trying to ObvTown too hard when the rest of the thread was just screwing around.
Bingle has had a number of analysis posts that I liked, but then again, it might just
actually
be LAMIST since he's going so hard at this game. But IDK. Just don't want to think about Limming them at this point.
We should have voted off Clem when we had the chance.
If Ana/Clem and Bingle were scum and you town, then why aren’t you dead?
You and imaginality continuing to push Bingle as scum makes no sense.
Why isn't Bingle dead? Fuck if I know!
I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
You was doided teh aposit_tisopa het dedoid saw em.
