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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:09 am

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Soooo… SS?
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:31 am

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sorry have been busy I’ll get to this
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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:49 am

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In post 1323, Something_Smart wrote:I figured some things out in real time as well... and DArby didn't really figure them out at all. Surely this counts against a me/DArby team at least as much as it counts against Dwlee being scum?
I havent gotten the vibe from you at all that you're sorting out the implications in real time. Maybe from darby but def not from you - and this is actually a tell that made me p convinced you were scum in rb, tjat you had basically pre-understood the implications of the guns
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:50 am

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In post 1323, Something_Smart wrote:954 isn't necessarily Dwlee explaining anything to IV... it's not like IV would never have made the vote he did if he knew that. It's just Dwlee explaining why that vote is bad from Dwlee's POV, which doesn't seem that hard to fake to me?
Iv doesnt seem to realize that he's conftown to dwlee is my point, which i think he would if they had come up with this plan ...
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:51 am

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In post 1324, Dwlee99 wrote:I've already said this but if I was scum with IV and E-1ing him I could have (and would have) told him what to claim
I mean tbf not if you forgot you had a fakeclaim ready
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:51 am

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In post 1325, DArby wrote:Soooo… SS?
Yes probably >.>
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:04 am

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In post 936, Something_Smart wrote:If DArby is also scum, I might have given up the chance to go 2 for 1, though he probably claims he acted N1 anyway. But if he's town then this should give a bit of credence to my claim since I'd have no reason to claim this knowing he
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In post 938, Something_Smart wrote:Actually, there's a 2 for 1 anyway, because IV never claimed his target, so if IV confirms Dwlee then they're likely scum together (or Dwlee just got lucky but with an unknown third PR that seems like a pretty risky thing to try).
In post 940, Something_Smart wrote:Also, note that Dwlee is claiming that scum blocked IV N2, a time when a missed kill means absolutely nothing and could easily have been a gambit.

Pedit: no because we went straight from D1 into mylo, and I didn't have any info yesterday anyway.
In post 977, Something_Smart wrote:I think this is probably just a 2v2.

Technically DArby/Dwlee is possible but it would be pretty weird and lucky.
In post 978, Something_Smart wrote:I guess it does make sense for the person claiming tracker to make the N2 kill, though.
In post 980, Something_Smart wrote:And me/IV is impossible, because then the visit Dwlee saw N1 would be him blocking you, but your shot went through.
What about this is not figuring things out in real time
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:05 am

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In post 1328, skitter30 wrote:Iv doesnt seem to realize that he's conftown to dwlee is my point, which i think he would if they had come up with this plan ...
Would he not also if he were town? That kinda seems like something that would be relevant if he were, you know, actually trying to sort Dwlee.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:07 am

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Like you are totally right about RB, that was extremely TMI. (The arguments weren't pre-prepared, but I did come with knowledge of exactly how the guns worked.)

But the posts I quoted seem pretty damn different from that...
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:22 am

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In post 960, Something_Smart wrote:So, I guess the way this went down is, scum realized that if only one of them claimed PR that it was going to be 4 PR claims 1 VT claim, and the VT claim would look the worst since why would scum both claim PR's if there were only 2 real PR's. Which I guess is true regardless of who the team is. But if you are to assume that the scum in me/Dwlee claimed PR out of (perceived) necessity, then it makes a lot more sense that Dwlee had to take a stab in the dark (presumably because IV used the mod provided one) than that I deliberately went into a 1v1 knowing that the conftown scumread me.

I don't think I would even leave you alive skitter, let alone force myself into a 1v1 that's an autoloss if I lose it with you deciding.
Ok fair abt those posts, but this one felt tmi to me in the same way ^

Like you had thought abt the implications of everyone claiming pr already
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:46 am

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Is there a way you would expect town-me to come to that conclusion differently? Like, that was like my 5th post or so after everyone had claimed, there were a good 20 minutes in there. I was trying to make sense of why Dwlee opened themself up to a CC, and that's what I came up with.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:33 pm

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In post 1332, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1328, skitter30 wrote:Iv doesnt seem to realize that he's conftown to dwlee is my point, which i think he would if they had come up with this plan ...
Would he not also if he were town? That kinda seems like something that would be relevant if he were, you know, actually trying to sort Dwlee.
Ig my point is if he's town, its possible he didnt realize the implications (again, like i didnt) whereas if he's scum anf the *whole point if the plan* was to havr this result, i imagine he would realize it
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:18 pm

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ugh i don't know if i've solved this completely but i'm sick and can't think properly and realistically i don't know if i'm getting to a better answer before deadline and i don't know if dragging it out until then will help anything

VOTE: ss

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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:24 pm

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VOTE: something smart
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:24 pm

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i'm assumign that was wrong :(
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:25 pm

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sorry :/
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:25 pm

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it's ok
sorry ss, just don't think i was going to get there this week :(

you/dwlee?
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:25 pm

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yep
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:25 pm

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g2g flight leaving bbl
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:26 pm

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okay lim darby tomorrow
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:26 pm

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i don't think i've been that wrong in a while :/
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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:26 pm

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jk no troll
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:26 pm

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ugh
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:27 pm

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In post 1345, skitter30 wrote:i don't think i've been that wrong in a while :/
I think we were very unaligned looking. I think coming to that conclusion from outside of SS's perspective is unlikely
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:30 pm

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yeah you did good,
you were either both town or both scum and i picked wrong

iv's side in particular looked really really realistic
i had that niggling feeling of doubt but yeah wasn't enough

just feel kinda bad cuz i could tell ss was really trying as either alignment. but i don't think that thinking in circles for another day and a half would have gotten me there confidentally enuf either so yeah
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