Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[RCEnigma]

Also, I got some game B townreads but getting mod repped I think really is what made the difference for scum to win there.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I hope I did your slot justice rce

[RCEnigma]

Cuz Alyssa smashed it out of the park.

[RCEnigma]

I was pretty excited when I saw you were replacing my slot ngl.

[Jingle]

I just also am very vocal with my critiques.

I actually appreciate this. My main goal for endgames is to be better next time. The only thing that I really didn't like here was the bit aimed at FL as I said, and the why was because it was a post game comment that he couldn't respond to. (If it had been at me, I would have had no problems at all as I think you know I welcome the criticism as a chance to do better.)

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I think I just wanted the win more than everyone else and it showed

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm still not entirely sure it was mechanically correct to kill between RR and Amy even, but either way we had an advantage in both 1v1s so it's really hard to tell

But I'm an advocate for a lot of 1v1s not really needing to be resolved immediately if it's not going to be a massive distraction for the game and i think towns hurt from assuming it is

[mastina]

I had a blast in the parts I did get to play in. This was a super fun format and I'd definitely sign up for future iterations.

^^^^

[Amy Dunne]

So we won because Mastina gratitude voted Titus because scum limmed RR or what?

And why wasn’t Mastina’s name Dexter? Seeing I got vigged was something I totally did not expect.

I did totally not expect there to be another day.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

We joint won, Amy

That's why Titus died

[Jingle]

Oh, if people could weigh in on the experimental mechanics I'd appreciate it:

Persistent scumchat (dead scum can still post in their factional PT) is a low utility but +fun mechanic imo and I don't think it would necessarily be a bad site meta shift. It's also not a major departure from expected mechanics.

Triplicate seems popular, but also seems like it might exacerbate gamestates with thread lag.

Open threads at night seem pretty meh, tbh. I don't know that they're bad, but it definitely didn't see a lot of use in this case.

[Amy Dunne]

I absolutely hate hate hate wagon analyzer role irrespective of alignment. I don’t approve of any sort of confirmed mech guilty which guilties scum not based on play, so I was legit furious with RR calling me confiscum based on that. Had I been guiltied because of a tracker, watcher or hell, even AC wouldn’t be as anywhere near as infuriating and when we killed one, we get a brand new one.

I also misread RR in A because he wanted to keep Dwlee alive in A and obviously I knew he was town in that because I didn’t recognize the so-called pr soft and locktowned him based on RCE dying in A.

[Jingle]

And why wasn’t Mastina’s name Dexter?

mastina's name was originally Alex (as a gender neutral random name), but GE was planning a hiatus and wasn't able to play so I let them pick a flavor name. I'm not sure the why behind the choice.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Persistent scumchat would be a very good change for the site I think

[Alyssa The Lamb]

It might force setups to be more Townsided though which I'm far less enthused about

[Amy Dunne]

We joint won, Amy

That's why Titus died

Because Mastina being SK made her kingmaker?

[Amy Dunne]

And why wasn’t Mastina’s name Dexter?

mastina's name was originally Alex (as a gender neutral random name), but GE was planning a hiatus and wasn't able to play so I let them pick a flavor name. I'm not sure the why behind the choice.

Think that one went over your head.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

No

We hit both wincons by reducing the game to just her and me

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Also please don't post in scumchat anymore

The fact that the last post is "Oh" is absolutely hilarious to me

[Amy Dunne]

Also please don't post in scumchat anymore

The fact that the last post is "Oh" is absolutely hilarious to me

I can’t, it’s locked.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Ok good, it's preserved for all time

[Taly]

*takes note of Amy pocketing me for future reference*

[Amy Dunne]

Subject: Petition Lounge

I can confirm you will win a 1v1 endgame, regardless of the other roles. Whether you win alone or share the win with a theoretical SK is what I cannot confirm.

So, we autowin regardless of whether Alyssa votes out Titus or Mastina? But if both Mastina and Titus vote Alyssa, wouldn’t we have lost?

[Amy Dunne]

*takes note of Amy pocketing me for future reference*

Nah, that’s actually a really bad take. I base my reads similarly to what I’d do as town.

[Jingle]

guilties scum not based on play

Wagon analyzer doesn't provide immediate guilties. It makes PoE pools.

Like, the results from the first wagon said there were at least 2 scum on wagon prior to claims. The knowledge you had as scum implied it would make a 1v1 between Dwlee and Demon Lord, with CT as conftown before any other claims.

Specifically, it's incredibly powerful because of it's ability to make PoE pools, but it is actually less prone to making non play related mech guilties than most investigative roles.

The wagon analyzer is explicitly a very very powerful role, but flat guilties is not at all the problem with it.