Open 838 – ISITMAINAC [Endgame]

[Scorpious]

ass

[Scorpious]

Regardless, that one post alone made RH9 someone I like on this site

[Jacket]

I will be annoyed if this is a slowroll.

[Scorpious]

I will be annoyed if this is a slowroll.

it is, that's why I respect the troll LOL

[Cook]

VC
Jacket (1): Scorpious
Scorpious (1): Jacket

The deadline is approximately 24 hours, and two votes decides an elimination.

[RH9]

You guys won't mind stating your cases, won't you?

[RH9]

You guys won't mind stating your cases, won't you?

Because based on VCA, either Jacket bussed Looker, putting him on E-1 or Scorpious bussed Looker, hammering him.
Also from VCA, either Salsabil Faria (Jacket's predecessor) bussed Galron or Galron bussed Scorpious, both starting the wagons.

[RH9]

You guys won't mind stating your cases, won't you?

Because based on VCA, either Jacket bussed Looker, putting him on E-1 or Scorpious bussed Looker, hammering him.
Also from VCA, either Salsabil Faria (Jacket's predecessor) bussed Galron or Galron bussed Scorpious, both starting the wagons.

Should I just ISO both of you and case you two?

[Jacket]

I don't think the timing of the votes on Looker matters. When the vig voted him everyone had reason to follow it, regardless of their alignment.

I think the biggest point in my favor is that on Day 3 when Scorpious was tied up in a 1v1 with Nathann, I kept trying to go outside that and get a wagon on Looker, but no one would follow. Zero reason to do that if I'm scum. Easily could have voted on Nathann or Scorpious to force people to choose between them.

Scorpious going after Nathann like that is probably a sign he knew Nathann was the SK, in hindsight.

[Jacket]

Seeing as lookers account is older than Google, I’m assuming they replaced in as a favor, and not intending for n being a beacon of activity.

Anything stand out to you Looker about this game?

Softball question. No purpose, no follow up, interacting for the sake of forcing an interaction.

Sorry, holiday weekend then returning to email hell at work.

RH9, and Nathann are my scum reads .
STD could be whatever. No ideas how one would read that.
Looker and Jacket are my towns.

VOTE: RH9

Can you explain the Looker townread?

Scorpious, answer this. It is a very good question.

Not a town read, no read.. 50/50 on looker and std.. coin flip for me at this point.

Calls Looker town even when that's technically impossible, then when asked about it, backpedals it to a "50/50"

Also leaning toward Looker over STD as scum based on your vote.

Scum team is Nathann,Looker and idk wtf RH9 is but he isnt town.

Distancing. Starts calling looker as scum but remains with his vote firmly planted on Nathann.

Top of my list of scum is Nathann. He keeps exhibiting scum behavior and has pretty much gone through the checklist of scum being pressured. No doubt he’ll jump on this post.

RH9-has bothered me throughout the entire game by being so reliant on talking about past games. Like scum struggling to find content so using an unlimited supply of meta from other games would make sense to draw off of. Has also been very reluctant to do anything since the day started. Also, the elephant is the late vote. To me

Jacket might be really good scum, but his logic is tight and doesn’t seem like, I’m most hedgey on this one but that sucks cause I think he’s the most pivotal . I’m just going with gut and trusting him

Looker is null, but I’m not going to figure out a player like that this fast. Maybe votes can tell us more.

Town on STD.

Scum will either have a good knee slap at these or be impressed. I’m probably wrong. But that’s where I’m at.

Then suddenly null for some reason where before he was calling him scum.

Whole play pattern is from someone who wants to call looker scum and look unaligned but doesn't actually want to bus.

[Jacket]

VOTE: Looker

Three sucks. Obnoxious player. Not dealing with them again.

VOTE: Looker

Weren't you thinking the slot isn't scum? Is that for the hammer, or should I stop being lazy and actually read?

I was changing m mind toward the end of yesterday seeing as he was providing almost nothing to the game, and the hammer sealed it.

At least there was only one death.

Dragons as confirmed town makes me feel significantly better about my vote on Looker.

Sorry, holiday weekend then returning to email hell at work.

RH9, and Nathann are my scum reads .
STD could be whatever. No ideas how one would read that.
Looker and Jacket are my towns.

VOTE: RH9

Why looker?

Scorp having me as town now is weird given previous days but don't see why he lets up on the read unless I'm stupidly pocketed.

Reread of Nathann says I don't have any great reason to townread him here, doesn't have anything anti-asociative with Galron. Posts are fine but nothing unfakeable. Still more confident on Looker, though.

No, the key piece I was suspicious of was the "A PR wouldn't be claiming VT here". I think that's the only difference in our initial approaches. Lol having to trust people's words is exciting. If it's not STD, then I think it's Jacket - coming for me for not contributing when STD previously had no justification for such a lackluster ISO is madness.

I said it was between you and STD. STD claimed PR. You also had the "accidental" hammer yesterday.

You should be voting Looker, or, failing that, Nathann. I' not sure about all of Scorp's case but the way he called out Galron a bit but didn't really push it does look like distancing.

Accepting STD's claim without scrutiny feels like TMI to me.

There literally has to be a vig, that's not TMI. Awful post.

Does

anyone

think there is a reasonable chance Looker is town? We have 5 non-clear people, 3 antitown in that group, no one has given an actual reason to townread him but people are dancing around giving a read on him and pushing elsewhere

Kinda funny how Jacket sees me and Scorpious in a pretty much locked 1v1, and goes "we could yeet Looker tho". The fact that he'd sooner put me as Looker's buddy than Scorpious, even when that would mean that I have been bussing for no reason for The Whole Game, is concerning. If I'm wrong on Scoprious being not mafia, that's his partner right there.

FMPOV there's only one other town among you, why would I not want to go for my most confident read?

Std's stance is known, my stances are known. There was an entire day for the two remaining town to move towards a resolution and instead it was spent with a back and forth between the two slots that the confirmed town don't want elimmed here.

SKs interest is to vote against scum. Especially if their BP was struck already but that's only a minor issue compared to losing town majority to scum who have agency with the nightkill.

and I'm sitting here fucking begging them to vote fucking Looker and neither of them budges. What the hell are you expecting to happen?

I literally never post all this if I'm mafia with Looker. Doesn't happen. Especially the last few posts. Especially when no one else seemed interested in voting him for some reason. Sucks that I miscleared Scorpious, but the odds were always going to be against getting it exactly right.

[RH9]

I want to wait a bit longer for Scorpious to find a counterargument (if one exists).
Or should I just take a dive and trust you?

[Jacket]

If I were in your shoes I'd wait for the other person to respond. I halfway want to see what he comes up with given that he supposedly "randomly" voted me.

[Scorpious]

Look, I’m town. One of you is scum.

I think it’s jacket. If you vote me. It’s not my fault.

[Scorpious]

Sorry. I don’t have the time to come up with reasons to convince either of you.

I think RH9 is obviously town because he wins if he hammers jacket as scum. He didn’t

So if RH9 votes Jacket . Town wins. Other way. Scum wins.

Really on you RH9.

[RH9]

Sorry. I don’t have the time to come up with reasons to convince either of you.

I think RH9 is obviously town because he wins if he hammers jacket as scum. He didn’t

So if RH9 votes Jacket . Town wins. Other way. Scum wins.

Really on you RH9.

Is that all? I know that I'm Town but if you had voted me and Jacket didn't quickhammer either, then through your logic, Jacket's obvtown. So nothing else makes you think that Jacket is scum?

[RH9]

I'm confused. Jacket has reasons for scum!you which have nothing to do with me not quickhammering but you don't?

[Scorpious]

I don't think you're scum.

If he don’t think I’m scum, and you are town, like you are..Just end this RH9..

[Scorpious]

Really?

If you're town, unvote.

I don't think you're scum.

Ebwop sorry

[Scorpious]

I think it's RH9, when I came out suspecting him, he only gave irrelevant-self meta and quoted stuff but didn't say anything about it, just put it out there. He's not actually trying to find scum or even make an argument, he's only interested in deflecting scumreads on him.

Seriously, if you're town, you need to unvote.

See, he was already planning on turning it on you.

[Scorpious]

There is ZERO town motivation in his posts.

[RH9]

I hate ELO. Scream at me postgame if I'm wrong but I'm going to hammer.
(Apologies if I end up wrong.)
Any last words?
(By the way, Scorpious, what do you think of Jacket's interactions with the flipped scum?)

[RH9]

I hate ELO. Scream at me postgame if I'm wrong but I'm going to hammer.
(Apologies if I end up wrong.)
Any last words?
(By the way, Scorpious, what do you think of Jacket's interactions with the flipped scum?)

Actually, I'll wait for your answer, Scorpious, before I place my vote.

[Jacket]

I don't think you're scum.

If he don’t think I’m scum, and you are town, like you are..Just end this RH9..

Obviously I know you're scum now. Disingenuous as fuck to act like my posts before RH9 posted represent what I think now.

[Jacket]

There is ZERO town motivation in his posts.

Lol, okay. So you post this implying you're not really sure:

Fuck it. I almost flipped a coin.

VOTE: Jacket

YOLO and GG however it turns out.

And now there's zero town motivation in my posts. You're reaching.